Sean,
i see some irony in a post supporting equality on a thread about sexually discriminatory golf clubs being labelled the "Pollitically Incorrect Post of the Year". Only on golf Club Atlas
Carl,
Not sure if I get where you are coming from. It's almost as if you think I am accusing people of being lesbians. There is nothing wrong with being a lesbian and absolutely no need for it to be delivered or taken as a slur.
my point was serious but maybe I didn't phrase it correctly.
To take one example, i met Laura davies once briefly (I have no idea whether she is a lesbian or not, but that is beside the point). from what I briefly encountered, and from what I have heard from others, she is great value and great company. she likes a joke, likes a drink, down to earth but with a great respect for the game of golf.
now if she was friends with a member at Black Sheep who wanted to invite her to join, hypothetically is very hard to say that the club would not cater for her needs as it is set up. She probably wouldn't want to go to balls, a restaurant, etc. she wouldn't need ladies tees. Gender aside, she might fit the requirements of membership perfectly. And if she didnt, i am sure there is some woman somewhere who does. And this to me is what equality is about. making a club accomodating to women in general and what they want from a club is a lot different to excluding women who fall into line with the direction and beliefs of a club.
David, let me try to be direct (rather than sorry-a-- backhanded sarcastic). I am an old guy and have been all over the place on this. Here's my perspective. (1)
"It's almost as if you think I am accusing people of being lesbians. There is nothing wrong with being a lesbian and absolutely no need for it to be delivered or taken as a slur." My reponse: There are folks out there --
not you or me -- who do take it to be a slur --
that is a fact. So, why bring it up unless it is relevant (a point which I will not discurse upon further, but you get the idea). (2) In my experience, the gender orientation thing has nothing to do with golf. From the "private club" standpoint, you might want to admit only men, only women, only straight men, only gay men, only straight women, or only gay women. But, what about from a "private
golf club" standpoint? My suggestion is that interest in golf is the issue, not s--ual orientation. (3) But it's more than "golf" at a "private club." In addition to golf, you're going to want social (not s--ual) compatability, at least from my perspective. (Is this right or wrong? Let's assume it's right. I belong to a private club, so I guess I think it's right. But, with the economy the way it is, sometimes you bend a little.) (4) Again, in
my personal experience, social compatability has nothing to do with s--ual orientation. (5) To repeat, why bring it up? This is just my personal view based on having been around here almost 70 years. (6) As I've said before, on this post, the world has for now passed Butler and ANGC by.