[Dr Katz]

I have been called, yes? Please to let me review to considerate the problems. I then get back to my little egg scrambled brained munchkins not more than to the end of the week if you please
Dr Katz

[Bob_Huntley]

Mike,

The real hangup is not the narrow window but getting the tee into the table. There has to be some psycho- babble somewhere that could explain this. I just hope it is nothing to do with the psycho-sexual stuff about penetration.

Bob

[Mike Cirba]

Mike,

The real hangup is not the narrow window but getting the tee into the table. There has to be some psycho- babble somewhere that could explain this. I just hope it is nothing to do with the psycho-sexual stuff about penetration.

Bob

Mr. Huntley,

Let us pray together that Dr. Katz does not find us both penetratively-challenged.

Mike

[Mike Jansen]

My nightmare was more of a reality yesterday.  At Pebble Beach I get off to a good start... shooting a front nine 40... even played 7 and 8 twice and scored par again.  Only to completely lose my driver swing and balls O.B (or in the ocean) on holes #10, #11, #12, #13, #15, and #17... shooting a back nine 55.  WTF!!

[Pat Burke]

I have a recurring nightmare, though it usually is at different venues.  I am leading or near the lead of a tournament, and various events conspire to keep me from hitting my next shot.  Gallery traffic, caddy missing, something that keeps me from being able to hit the shot.  I get to where I know I'm about to be DQ'd and I usually wake up aggravated as hell.  Usually walk out to my garage and break a few clubs
(Don't tell Melvyn! )

[Melvyn Morrow]

Mr Pat Burke

"You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence."

You have now been cautioned -  The Rules DO apply to All Mr Woods Burke.

Melvyn

[Doug Ralston]

Ace, I (and To Watson too, i read!) have both had that dream where you cant make a backswing because you are restricted by something

i wonder what the hell it means!

Paul, this one is easy. You are feeling that you must do things without much proper preparation. I recommend dinner, flowers, and Trojans.

Melvyn is even more obvious. He wants to be the one to 'punish' Tiger himself ...... doubtless with a whip, while dressed in leather. Ah Melvyn, how revealing your pent up needs are. 

Anyone else need some analysis? Thought not.

Doug

PS: Yes, my degrees are in psych. I got you all figured now. Think on that ..... and smile.

[Anthony Gray]

  This is a true nightmare. I get on a plane and travel to Scotland. I'm staying at St Andrews Bay. I get up in the morning and go for a strool. Simply beautiful. It is an awesome morning. After that I sit in the hot tub at the spa for 30 minutes. It is then time to venture down to The R&A to visit Melvyn. Today is one of the best days of my life. Melvyn has arranged for the ultimate photo op. Me....Anthony Ray Gray DMD PC ADD GCA...holding the championship belt. As I enter dressed in a kilt and proper attire I see Melvyn. He turns and reaches into the trophy case. He turns with the belt in his hands and reaches it out to me. I focus on the belt and reach for it. A tear skips off my face and onto the belt. I pan up to see the love on Melvn's face. And he has the face of Pat Craig. I wake up profusly sweating and go for the Ambian.

  Anthony

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[bstark]

In my most terrifying dream, like in that old Twilight Zone episode, I discover that for all these years that we've been thinking that we're positioning the Cheater Lines to indicate putting lines for our game, it's actually the Cheater Lines that are positioning us for theirs...

Classic shivas.

[Kevin Lynch]

Ahhhh...

Looks like I have a lot of company.

I have the same damn dream as many of you.  Mine always seems to be the first tee, on what appears to be a great course and I'm playing some sort of tournament.  The strange thing is I always am able to watch one or two others play their tee shot and then when I get up to hit it, I CAN"T.  There is no room to swing, I'm either all of a sudden hitting out of a room, with a wall too close or a ceiling too low.  Something is preventing me from hitting the shot.  It's maddening!

I never thought I would find GCA as a counseling group, but it is eerie hearing people articulate almost verbatim some of the golf nightmares I have had.  The "all of a sudden I'm in a room" - I know exactly what you mean.

I actually had one last night – playing in a tournament and having to hit a flop shot onto the top of a table while having chairs and tables restricting my backswing.  The new twist was that I was playing in a threesome with Suzann Pettersen and Ai Miyazato, so the recurring “claustrophobic” theme of my dreams must have melded in with my experience of watching the LPGA this weekend.

My ex-wife used to read heavily about Symbolism of Dreams & Interpretations.  She indicated that Golf (or whatever pastime you are passionate about) is a symbol of something in your life that you want to achieve.  When I was younger (pre-golf), my passion was baseball and this manifested in dreams where I couldn’t run (e.g. I would try tagging up from 3rd on a deep pop fly, but would feel like the base path was quicksand).  

The restricted backswing symbolizes some obstacle / problem in your life that is standing in your way of achieving those dreams.  

http://www.thecuriousdreamer.com/symbols/1858/


Dreams, in general, are not literal, but symbols of something else.  I found that I had these dreams during periods of high stress at work.  I used to work for a national accounting firm, and I felt that career path was going to reach a breaking point about seven years ago, as the anxieties of the job never lessened.  In 2003, I went out on my own, and those nightmares vanished for many years.  

Not sure why they’re starting to recur recently, but I have had a few stresses on client issues, so much so that they are consuming my “down-time,” so my ultimate goal of being able to leave work behind and enjoy my family stress-free may be causing the dreams to appear again.

Sorry if that was TMI – but found it interesting how these themes have been consistent in other passionate golfers.

[Ronald Montesano]

I have this dream where I make 17 consecutive holes-in-one, then lip out on the 18th.  I'm actually relieved to approach normalcy, so relieved that I end up humping the hole on the home green.

[Mark Pearce]

I was listening to last week's European Tour podcast while in the gym this evening and Richard Boxall described exactly the same dream.  Playing in a tournament in a three ball his two partners stripe drives down the middle of the first fairway but when it is his turn to play, he can't make a backswing because there is a hedge a foot bhind his ball.  It's clearly a common golfer's dream, and one that good golfers seem to have.  I'd love to know what it means.

[Kalen Braley]

I was listening to last week's European Tour podcast while in the gym this evening and Richard Boxall described exactly the same dream.  Playing in a tournament in a three ball his two partners stripe drives down the middle of the first fairway but when it is his turn to play, he can't make a backswing because there is a hedge a foot bhind his ball.  It's clearly a common golfer's dream, and one that good golfers seem to have.  I'd love to know what it means.

I'm a crappy golfer and have the same dreams....doh, I just realized thats a double whammy, I sux at golf in real life and in my dreams.    

[TEPaul]

I don't know if I should be relieved or concerned to report I don't recall ever having a dream in any way relating to the playing of golf and certainly never a nightmare about it.

[Bill_McBride]

I don't know if I should be relieved or concerned to report I don't recall ever having a dream in any way relating to the playing of golf and certainly never a nightmare about it.

Paging Dr. Katz! 

[TEPaul]

Billy Bob McBride:

You can page that quack-charlatan of a so-called doctor---Dr "Adolf" Katz but I guarantee you he is a total waste of H2O. The guy is essentially the last vestige of the worst of the pill-pushing, psycho-terrorist, scam-artists of the Third Reich. Talk about a nightmare!

[Doug Ralston]

ROFL! Guys, I swear, every dream/nightmare is in some symbolic way about sex! Hell, even your waking life is essentially about sex, though the symbolism is more easily rationalized away when you do not want it.

Golf. 'Hole-in-one'. 'Hitting it deep'. 'Balls in the rough'. 'Driver vs puuter'. 'Up and down' ad nauseum. While these sound silly, it is not an accident that virtually all of our cliches have sexual implication.

Trust your dreams. There, at least, your desire to duck away with rationalizations is suppressed, and you just reek of symbols.

Nothing wrong with being about sex. Nature wants it that way. You know, the ole 'mate and beget before you die' drives that keep the specie going. And when you get toward the end of that, nature begins to try to do you in. Today, our power of medical intervention allows us to resist longer, but that IS the business.

Sorry. Perhaps I am off topic in this off topic thread, a bit. But I love how the World works. {PS: At 58 yr old, I am afraid Mother Nature is already setting her sighting upon me. But I will fight her a while. "Rage, rage ....... etc.}. 

Doug

[TEPaul]

"ROFL! Guys, I swear, every dream/nightmare is in some symbolic way about sex!"


Whatever you say, Sigmund.

[Mark Molyneux]

Well since my day job (the one that supports my golf) is in the psych field, I'd be remiss if I didn't take a shot at this one! The string started with a question about being unable to hit golf shots; alternatively, being unprepared to perform at golf. Several respondents followed up with dreams about performing poorly with lots of references to the big stage... at a U.S. Amateur... at a world class course... during a once in a lifetime opportunity to play. Those all reflect anxious feelings but the sources of the anxiety may differ considerably. Almost all performances are associated with some level of stress and people who deal effectively with their nerves tend to perform better than people who don't. A consistent preshot routine is a conscious means of controling nerves. A dream may very well be an unconscious means for accomplishing the same thing. Ben Hogan got himself to a point where taking the putter back was nearly impossible. Bernie Parent threw up before a lot of hockey games. Stress can be debilitating so the mind looks for ways to unload and our dreams provide a good outlet. I'll have to go back and check to see if anyone had a dream about showing up on the first tee naked. Dreams about lack of preparedness (no shoes, no clubs, naked at the tee, etc.) can reflect anxious feelings about our level of preparation. It's probably important to point out that dreams are almost always symbolic so a first tee with no shoes dream might seem to be about golf but it's actually attached to our business, our studies, our preparation about any important matter in life. The "bigger the stage" the more importance we attach to being prepared. If you find yourself in the bunker during a solitary round at a local muni without a club... low level anxiety. If you have no balls left (oops! Freudian slip!!) and you're at the 16th on Pinehurst #2 in your initial appearance at the U.S. Open, the source of your anxiety is probably more substantial. The other dreams about being constrained from performing well / executing a shot are probably reflecting troubled feelings about factors (the boss, the budget) that are outside your control and which limit your perfiormance. Dreaming about shanking a ball or whiffing while others are watching intently (or worse counting on you) probably relates to your worries about not measuring up or disappointing others.

Of course sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. The golf dream that involves a match with Arnie (or Natalie Gulbis) might actually be a GOLF dream though I'd probably want to check a little closer on where you stood in your match with Natalie (and what you were playing for).

Really careful dream interpretation relies on more specifics. There's probably a difference between a dream of being unable to hit a shot because of an obstructing limb and being unable to hit a shot because a snake is coiled around your ball. There's also a difference between waking in a cold sweat from a dream about worrying that your partner will laugh at your foozle versus your mother doing the same thing.

Dreams are pretty typically good outlets and many people who have the worst nightmares go on to perform admirably at whatever the task may be that relates to the subconscious material. I'll expect Dr. Rotella's consult by this afternoon.

Incidentally, I thought I was having this recurrent nightmare that had all the courses within 100 miles under a foot of snow forever  so I might have to take up another sport. Oh no... wait... This is Philadelphia and it's my reality!!! Aargh!

[Mike Cirba]

Of course sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Mark,

Tell that to President Clinton!   

[Mark Molyneux]

Mike-

I'd love to run some inkblots past Bill.

As an interesting aside, when I was being trained in projective assessment and specifically, the use of the Rorschach inkblots, I had to scurry around looking for willing volunteers to be my "subjects". One person who did volunteer was my golf pro. So I ran the test and created the written record of all his interpretations then I had to bring it in to my prof for discussion. The professor loved doing "blind analyses", meaning he'd read the responses without ever seeing the client and tell things about that individual. Some of his blind analyses were amazingly accurate, like this one "probably a person on kidney dialysis" and it WAS!! When he saw my pro's inkblot responses, he offered, "Institutional population?" to which I said, "Yeah... arguably... I guess you could say that."

[Mike Cirba]

Mark,

Too funny!  

I have another recurring dream, non-golf-related, that I figured out the meaning of some years ago.

Back in college, I was quite the ne'er-do-well, and truth be told I probably attended on average about 30% of my college classes from Freshman to Graduation five-and-a-half years later.   I still remember the panic of having to go to take an exam for a course I had not been to in weeks, or wondering what I may have missed, including tests.   

Life on that edge wasn't pretty at times, that's for sure.

These days, I have a recurring dream where I have to go to a class I haven't been to in weeks/months because it's still possible to pass it, but I'm not going to graduate this semester as my parents expect because I'm going to fail or have dropped some other courses, and it's getting to be panic time.  I'm also panicked in the dream because I'm going to have to come clean with the folks.    Often, I'll wake up from the dream and it takes a few moments to come to the happy realization that yes, I have indeed graduated, many, many years ago.

In the dream, the people, surrounding events, collateral sub-plots, and other events are all completely variable, yet the main theme running through the dream is this imminent semester's failure.

What I finally figured out is that I have this dream whenever otherwise controllable events in my life seem out of control, or when I might be similarly procrastinating in getting something done that I need to, either at work or in my personal life.  

Coming to that understanding has been very helpful, actually, as a life lesson, because now, when I have that dream, I ask myself (if it isn't already obvious) what it is that I'm needing to address and try to take recuperative action.  

[TEPaul]

This shared fear Mike Cirba and Bob Huntley seem to have about not being able to get a tee into a hard surface is actually a snap to analyze. It's nothing more than a similar occurence when they were first being potty trained.

I can guarantee they both initially struggled to get their little fannies far enough back on the toilet seat to hang over the water in the toilet. So what happened is their first little hard stools hit the porcelin before the water. For someone in the first stages of potty training this can be almost catostrophic and lead to all kinds of dangerous phobias, but nightmares about not penetrating hard surfaces with a golf tee is one of the most common of them.

My suggestion is for someone to make a tape of what a hard stool sounds like hitting the water for a beginning potty trainee. I think if Bob and Mike just put on some headphones and try to go to sleep for a few nights listeing to the sound of little hard stools hitting the water they will be just fine in the future.

[Kalen Braley]

On this same topic, does anyone get the "falling" dream?  While I've read that they are one of the most common dreams out there, I've rarely had them.....I could count them all on one hand.

Dr. Katz, please intrepret, what does this mean?   

P.S.  I did have a dream where I killed David Letterman once...that was kinda fun and my wife gets a big kick out of it!   

[Mike Cirba]

I've also had a recurring dream, much fewer times, however...where I'm onstage with a famous band like "The Who", or the Stones, and I have a guitar in my hand without the slightest inkling of how to play it.

Of course, they expect that I can, either because I told them that or someone else did, and we're in front of an audience so I have to fake it, trying to actually strike the strings as few times as possible while still appearing to be playing, and also trying to achieve a sound quality not too horribly out of tune or tempo with the actual song.

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