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Geoffrey_Walsh

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GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« on: January 08, 2010, 11:09:40 PM »
Apologies for asking this simple question but I must have missed something along the way... what exactly is the relationship between GCA/"GCA Developments" and Cabot Links?  I found an arcticle that said Ben owned the property before Keiser and Kemper signed on for the project but I thought I would get the definitive answer by starting a thread here.  Are both Ben and Ran formally involved in the design with Rod?

Adam Clayman

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2010, 11:47:47 AM »
Geoffrey,
 I may not have all the facts perfect but here goes..

Ben was able to get government assistance to help bring economic development to Cape Breton Island (?). He needed investors to get the golf course going.

Enter Mike Keiser 

Moving forward..

Cabot Links will become Bandon's sister resort. The affiliations between Mr. Keiser and Kemper are obvious.

Many holes have been grassed, and I suspect the finish work is next on the agenda. I will know much more next week.... ;D

"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Jud_T

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2010, 12:25:16 PM »
So when's the Cabot Cleek event being held?   
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Buck Wolter

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 12:42:53 PM »
Current Links magazine (Prairie Club on the cover) has a write up calling it 'Bandon East'.  9 holes open next summer and the entire course open in 2012.
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Dan Herrmann

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 12:45:05 PM »
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Adam Clayman

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2010, 12:57:58 PM »
Dang Gummit Dan, quit giving out my sources.

Just so there's full disclosure.

I have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Cabot Links.

Not that I didn't try, mind you. Alas, Ran and Ben have way too much sense than to get hooked up with the likes of me. All I wanted was the currency play anyway. Just kidding,,, mostly.

What I know of this project is that they've hired the right people, (Rod, Dave and Dan) hooked up with the right guy (MK) and management team. (JL via KS) and built on a sandy coastal site. It was so moderate there last winter, they never got frost. It may have caused them to be ahead of schedule, but I wouldn't expect them to rush the opening.
I love the lack of a frame of reference and supposedly, there's a finite number of infinity greens.  ;)

« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 12:59:31 PM by Adam Clayman »
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Harris Nepon

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2010, 01:15:27 PM »
I've been following this on facebook for a while now, pretty cool watching it come along.

Probably jumping the gun here, but is there potential for this to be like bandon in the sense that there will be multiple courses?

Steve D

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2010, 01:43:27 PM »
I've heard that Cabot Links will follow the same model as Bandon Dunes and if the first course is successful a second course will be built.

Steve

Greg McMullin

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 01:50:19 PM »
Robert Thompson recently visited Cape Breton and provides a preview of Cabot Links on his G4G Blog - http://canadiangolfer.com/g4g/2010/09/13/course-preview-cabot-links/

Germain Pepin

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2010, 08:44:14 AM »
Thanks for the update! With the addition of Cabot links, this region will become a great golf destination in 2012.

PCCraig

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2010, 08:59:06 AM »
Very cool, thanks to all for the additional info.

The course looks great, I only wonder how difficult it will be to get to...even more so than Bandon?
H.P.S.

Adam Clayman

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2010, 09:42:11 AM »
Pat, From all reports, getting to Inverness, NS. is not that difficult, from the east coast. It's a shorter drive from Halifax airport than Bandon is from Portland. Of course, there's the only way to travel, which would remove that drive.  ;)
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Jeff_Mingay

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2010, 09:52:29 AM »
Adam,

In terms of "hiring the right people", Rod and Dave are given "celebrity status" contributors.

I think it's also important to recognize there are a lot of really hard-working, very talented guys out there building the course under Rod's direction, including: Brian Atkinson, Keith Cutten, and Mike Rossi (superintendent).

Brian's worked at Blackhawk and Wascana with Rod and I. He's an excellent finish man, who's also done a ton of work at Wolf Creek. Keith's a multi-talented kid, who's worked at Wascana and Sagebrush with us. Keith can do "everything". And, I truly believe, Rossi's seriously "the best man for the job" there, at Cabot Links. He's unfazed, and knows golf.

Kerry McLean and Myles Basker are two great Cape Bretoners who've have been out there the past two summers working really hard on the course construction, too.

A few others go unnamed here. But there's a hard-working team at it :)
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RJ_Daley

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2010, 12:31:19 PM »
I must say that this little tidbit of geographic information, that the area did not even have a frost last winter is fascinating.  Does anyone know if the model is actually to have the course open for play on select winter days?
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Adam Clayman

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 07:08:37 AM »
Well, I am here and am looking over the GC, but have not stepped foot on it, yet. I can tell you all that the scene, the vistas, the views, are amazing, idyllic. The drive up was a cross between the drive from Portland to Bandon, the drive from Carmel to Big Sur, and Throw in my impressions of what it must be like to drive around Ireland and Scotland, and you have the ride from Halifax to Inverness.
RJ, No! There's likely too much incentive to close in the winter than to have the course open for "Select winter days".
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Adam Clayman

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2010, 05:14:27 AM »
Jeff, Thanks for that. And now that I have met some of them, you are correct. There are a lot of people working hard to make Cabot Links top notch.

First off, those who are concerned over how long it might take them to get to Cape Breton Island, might as well take their chill pill right now. The Island is amazing. Unplugged is an understatement. Relaxed, laid back, are all adjectives I would use to describe the feeling one needs to have to get the vibe. It does not take longer than it is worth.

 The golf course is going to be sublime. Having all 18 holes with water views is a rarity and the journey one will take while golfing this seaside course is as breathtaking as it is exciting golf. Freedom, width, undulating waves of all fescue, dunesland, should get the heart a putter'in for all who value links golf as the purest form of gca. And maybe even for those who haven't figured that out yet?

The course begins with a nice handshake mid-length par 4, with a drive over a small hillock. Unfolding before you is an introduction to what you are about experience throughout your round. Well placed bunkering, some green side, some center-lines, some short of the green space, for all manner of creative, yet exacting, shot making. The second hole will rival one of the best par 5's created. Reminiscent of Neville's 6th at Pebble, the undulations from a distance are impressive, up close, intimidating. This one two combination, will only enhance the golfer's anticipation going forward.

The course generally loops around, although it isn't as straight forward as that description conjures. One of the coolest points of the journey is at the farthest point from the Ocean, when the 8th and 9th holes take you out near the Harbour, with a reverse Redan-like par 3 8th, and a major cape hole 9th.

Most of this course is in grow in, with the few remaining holes to be grassed, roughed in. These last holes have been saved for last because their ground was needed as staging areas or access routes to build the remainder.

With hurricane Igor (or is it EEEgor?) off the coast of Newfoundland, I was treated to winds in excess of 50 mph and gusts of who knows? But enough to push this fat man around. As an example, the downhill 110 yard 14th, heading straight out to the ocean (pictured above) looked like it was either a full driver, or a putter played down along the hill. Such elasticity is only dreamt of, once one reaches true geek status. Which after this trip, I think I easily qualify.

After my walk about, I made the trek over to Highlands Links. The drive was surreal, making Big Sur look little.

One of the first invitations I saw in this treehouse, was when Ran invited any and all on his trek to Cape Breton Island, over 10 years ago. Since then I've been intrigued to get there and I was not disappointed.

Highlands was a treat, since almost all of Stanley Thompsons (sp?) work is intact. After visiting there, and having never met Ian Andrew, I can securely say, I love him. His love for Highlands and his help in recapturing the masterpiece that lies there should be heralded to all the halls of those who may someday care. While there's lots left to do, once the G'ment commits it's dollars, the golfer won't need to see beneath the surface at the bones, It's greatness will be as obvious as the balls on a tall dog.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Dan Herrmann

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 06:46:19 AM »
Adam,
So very well written.  Thank you!

Steve Lang

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 07:07:32 AM »
It's greatness will be as obvious as the balls on a tall dog.

Adam,  i think you've been out on the prairie too long..  so no pics?
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Bill_McBride

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 10:10:41 AM »
"With hurricane Igor (or is it EEEgor?) off the coast of Newfoundland..."

Adam, if you think back to Marty Feldman in "Young Frankenstein," you will remember that it's "EYE-GOR!"   ;D

Thomas Patterson

Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2010, 10:30:39 AM »
Adam, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.  I really believe this course is going to be epic on a major scale.  I've never been to that part of the world either, so it gives me a great excuse for a road trip!

Michael Huber

Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2010, 11:41:49 AM »
Are there any other golf courses in the general area surrounding cabot links?

Jim Nugent

Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2010, 01:15:42 PM »
Adam, do you see other good land for more golf courses around there? 

George Freeman

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2010, 02:05:00 PM »
Are there any other golf courses in the general area surrounding cabot links?

I believe Cape Breton Highlands Links, perennially one of Canada's best per this site, is relatively close.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2010, 04:43:41 PM »
Well Adam, I guess I got my answer I asked in the IM!!  ;D

Well written, ditto.  Man, I can't wait to pick your brain when we next meet!!!  That drive sounds fantastic.  It would be one heck of a car trip from here, if not flying to Halifax, but as you say, not too much considering all the wonderful country one would see on the way. 

Can you say if the model at the golf club will be similar to the Bandon resorts model in that they would plan to have self contained on-site lodging and F&B?  Or, will the town resources be needed for travelling golfers to find bed and food?  Does the notion of having private town enterprise for food and lodging play into any Canadian Govmnt cooperation-permits, etc? 

It appears you are a few weeks ahead of the Celtic Festival.  But, do you see signs of increased tourist activity now?  Inquiring minds want to know!!!
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Don Hyslop

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Re: GCA Developments - Cabot Links?
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2010, 10:43:10 PM »
Are there any other golf courses in the general area surrounding cabot links?

I believe Cape Breton Highlands Links, perennially one of Canada's best per this site, is relatively close.
Le Portage, a good course designed by David and Robert Motte, in Cheticamp is 36 miles away( 42 min), Bell Bay, a Thomas McBroom design, in Baddeck is 48 miles away, Highland Links in Ingonish is 100 miles ( 2hrs) away, the new The Lakes Course designed by Graham Cooke (rated 5th best new course in Canada this year) is around 90 miles from Inverness and Dundee, a Robert Moote design, is about 45 mi from Inverness.
 You can check out those courses here:
http://www.golfcapebreton.com/  If you stayed in Baddeck, which has plenty of accomodations, you would be in the centre of almost everything.
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« Last Edit: September 23, 2010, 01:51:54 PM by Don Hyslop »
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