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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #525 on: October 31, 2009, 02:06:49 PM »
Golfweek's USA Classic List that were not given a rose:

#43-Salem
#55-Medinah numero tres
#64-Pine Needles
#66-Franklin Hills
#67-Brookside
#75-Indianwood
#84-Northland
#87-Eastward Ho!
#89-Hollywood
#91-Sankaty Head
#92-Rolling Green
#93-Brook Hollow
#94-Dunes
#95-Augusta CC
#97-Champions-Cypress
#100-Sunnehanna

I took Rolling Green in the fourth round.
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #526 on: October 31, 2009, 02:19:07 PM »
Oops!  Sorry!

And thank you again for Oakmont.  If I took you to play one of mine, which would you ask for?
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

JC Jones

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #527 on: October 31, 2009, 02:32:47 PM »
Oops!  Sorry!

And thank you again for Oakmont.  If I took you to play one of mine, which would you ask for?

Easily Oakmont.  Though Sleepy Hollow would be up there too.  You've got some great picks.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #528 on: October 31, 2009, 02:50:36 PM »
The first one of yours I like is St. Andrwws of course, then Seminole.
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

JC Jones

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #529 on: October 31, 2009, 02:57:30 PM »
The first one of yours I like is St. Andrwws of course, then Seminole.

We should have opportunity for reciprocation considering Seminole and Oakmont have the same Head Pro!
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Ben Sims

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #530 on: October 31, 2009, 03:18:28 PM »
I found it quite interesting what people were trying to trade to get Augusta.  Only on this website would someone ask for Augusta and Pebble for Pine Valley.

In the "real" world and not on GCA, Augusta would be a one for one swap for just about any course.  Not here...

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #531 on: October 31, 2009, 03:19:52 PM »
Ben,

  My offer is still outstanding...

Jud_T

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #532 on: October 31, 2009, 03:35:00 PM »
Addington was my ninth round sleeper......
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Ben Sims

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #533 on: October 31, 2009, 04:20:32 PM »
Ben,

  My offer is still outstanding...

Jim,

No offense to you or PV, but no, it's not.  No matter how you slice it.

Jaeger Kovich

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #534 on: October 31, 2009, 06:28:13 PM »
Its amazing how smooth the Merion pick went... Nobody complained about designers or has tried to trade for it!


I would be interested in trading for some Old Tom's and Quaker since I'm a homer!

Rob Rigg

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #535 on: November 02, 2009, 12:39:39 AM »
Are we going to get a "panel" to rate the selections?

Maybe we can even come up with "categories" so everybody wins - just like in kiddie sports these days :)

Sean_A

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #536 on: November 02, 2009, 06:21:05 AM »
There were some great picks in Round 1.  E Smith's pick was a major coup as he was somehow able to scoop Co Down, Muirfield and Dornoch in an OTM pick.  J Colton's pick was inspired because he snatched a great variety of courses In Pine Valley, Portrush and Sunny Old.  I have to call it a draw between Smith and Colton.

Round 2 was a difficult one as there were four savy drafters in Sims, Smith, Jones and Tigerman.  However, landing Augusta and Royal Melbourne (in the 2nd round - hello!) then pawning off Palmetto for a modern classic in Friars head takes the cake.  Winner: Sims. 

Round 3 - another tough choice - a lot of much of a muchness going on.  I like a wheeler/dealer, but I can't see where the dealing gained much in this round.  So the default goes R Rigg because I like the variety of Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon and Boston GC. 

Round 4 - another nasty call as desperation seems to be creeping into the draft process.  I liked Smith's call for Colt, but I already selected a round in favour of Colt.  Default goes to A Miller on a flyer for Cal Club, Kingsbarns and Dundonald.

I didn't like the 5th round as it seemed there were flaws with all selectors - fatigue was winning out at this point - or maybe sex got in the way of some research.  I guess I am forced to go with the bold drafter and declare P Hodgdon's selection of Machrihanish Dunes, Bandon Dunes and the Castle Course if only because they are all public access facilities - Joe Six Pack still has a place in the golfing world. 

I liked the picks of Rigg, Sims and Smith.  At the end of the day, North Berwick is probably my most favoured course in all the lands so I give the 6th round to D Sims.

Round 7 - who knows, but anytime a club with a great name like Yarra Yarra is involved, it has to be a keeper.  Besides, it would be a shame not to pick both courses of Melbourne because it would break up possibly the best course in the world - Melbourne's composite course.  J Tigerman wins with A Russel picks of Paraparaumu Beach, Royal Melbourne (East) and Yarra Yarra. 

I have too many GB&I courses in the round winners, but when a pick is so far beyond anyone else's I have to call it tops.  J Tigerman wins Round 8 with his Colt selection of Royal Worlington, Formby & Ganton.

Ciao

New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Sean_A

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #537 on: November 02, 2009, 07:27:22 AM »
There were a few courses I was surprised not to see drafted.  

Round 1 - Braid: PENNARD (zippity do da), Tenby & Perranporth

Round 2 - Fowler: Walton Heath New, Berkshire Red & EASTWARD HO! (zowie!)

Round 3 - Colt: Rosses Point, Portrush Valley & SUNNINGDALE NEW (zowie II!)

Round 4 - 3 Majors: Kington, WEST SUSSEX (you gotta be kidding me!) & Seacroft

Round 5 - Willie Park Jr: Notts, Silloth & Parkstone

Round 6 - D Steel: Littlestone, Southerndown & Machrie

Round 7 - Pennink: Sandwich, Hoylake & Saunton West (someone better double check - I can't believe these are still on the table)

Round 8 - T Dunn: WOKING (cha ching), Seacroft & Broadstone

Bonus Round - OTM: Wallasey, Dunbar & Elie

BTW - I tried desperately to get Royal West Norfolk in there, but I failed.  

Ciao
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New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #538 on: November 02, 2009, 08:48:58 AM »
Has anyone run the number against our GCA top 100 list from last year?

I still think we should do fantasy foursomes...ben, lets get two buddies (maybe whoever has Kiawah) and go to charleston and play CCC and BB. ;D
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

Melvyn Morrow

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #539 on: November 02, 2009, 09:17:07 AM »


“I still think we should do fantasy foursomes….”  -  Jay I am still trying to get the wife into a threesome, foursome might just finish me off completely, but what a way to go. And all without the need for a cart but may need an artificial aid to keep me going though.  :o

Fantasy indeed. ;)

Melvyn 

Jud_T

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #540 on: November 02, 2009, 09:39:32 AM »
Sean,

thanx for the props! I think the UK & Ireland went cheap because not as many guys have played all the courses, including me!
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Ronald Montesano

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #541 on: November 02, 2009, 09:40:48 AM »
Melvyn,

good luck convincing your wife...ply her with booze and jewelry.  that was a great morning laugh for me.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Bill Brightly

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #542 on: November 02, 2009, 09:43:38 AM »

I am still trying to get the wife into a threesome, foursome might just finish me off completely, but what a way to go.
Fantasy indeed. ;)

Melvyn 



Melvyn,

Kalen said he might be interested in making it a threesome but is waiting for the pics before he commits.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #543 on: November 02, 2009, 10:02:52 AM »

Bill

My wife might like a male; I am pushing for a female, but expect I will be lucky and just get an airmail from my wife's solicitor on the grounds of being sexist by not wanting another male, possibly giving her grounds for divorce. :-\

So much for my fantasy, forget foursome finding it difficult enough to get a twosome these days. Every Viagra should be automatically supplied with a heavy-duty headache tablet as well otherwise what the point. British Rail delay or postpone trains for the wrong sort of rain, snow or leaves on the track, women have a complete range of headaches and excuses that put British Rail to shame.   :o

Thank God for dreams ;D

Melvyn

Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #544 on: November 02, 2009, 10:06:12 AM »
If Bill, Sean, Tom and any of the 3 other people who paid attention to this this thread want to rank who they feel have the strongest teams (say top 5), I will compile the opinions and crown the 'winner' of the draft.  Feel free to post your top 5 on the thread or PM me with your ballot.

Just use the following basic criteria: Which team would I most like to own?

1. Jud Tigerman: MacKenzie - Crystal Downs, Cypress Point, Palmetto
30. Jud Tigerman: Old Tom - prestwick, lahinch, machrihanish
31. Jud Tigerman: Coore/Crenshaw - austin golf club, old sandwich, lost farm
60. Jud Tigerman: Langford- Lawsonia, Skokie, Harrison Hills
61. Jud Tigerman: Doak - Stonewall (old), Rennaisance Club, Stone Eagle
90. Jud Tigerman:  Hawtree- Western Gailes, Hillside, Island
91. Jud Tigerman:  Alex Russell - Paraparaumu Beach, Royal Melbourne (East), Yarra Yarra
110. Jud Tigerman: Colt-Royal Worlington, Formby, Ganton

2. Jaeger Kovich: CBM - The National, Shinnecock, Chicago Golf
29. Jaeger Kovich: Colt - Swinley Forrest, and St George's Hill (Muirfield already picked)
32. Jaeger Kovich: - James Braid - Carnoustie, Gleneagles, and Royal Aberdeen
59. Jaeger Kovich: Tilly - Somerset Hills, Winged Foot East, and Baltimore CC East
62. Jaeger Kovich: Coore & Crenshaw - The Plantation Course, Talking Stick (North) and Hidden Creek
89. Jaeger Kovich:  Flynn: Lancaster Country Club, Huntingdon Valley, The Homestead Cascades
92.  Jaeger Kovich:  Tillinghast - Ridgewood, Fenway, (Newport selected but ineligible:  already taken)
119. Jaeger Kovich: Greg Norman - Ellerston, The Medalist Club, and THE NATIONAL MOONAH COURSE

3. Jay Flemma: Strantz - MPCC Shore, Bulls Bay, Tobacco Road
28. Jay Flemma:  ross - oakland hills, white bear, the balsams (panorama)
33. Jay Flemma:  Tilly...Sleepy Hollow [Quaker Ridge, Philly Cricket (Wissahickon) to Miller]
                         Fownes...Oakmont (57) in 3way from Jones for Mid-Ocean and Yale from Miller (25)
58. Jay Flemma:  William Flynn - Atlantic City C.C., Cherry Hills, Rolling Green
63. Jay Flemma: Perry Maxwell - University of Michigan, Oklahoma City Golf and Country Club, Colonial!
88. Jay Flemma:  Banks - The Knoll Club (West), Essex County Country Club, Tamarack
93.  Jay Flemma: Dye - Bulle Rock, Whistling Straits [straits course], Antigua
118. Jay Flemma: Brian Silva - Black Rock, Black Creek, Red Tail

4. JC Jones: Ross - Pinehurst #2, Seminole, Wannamoisett
27. JC Jones: God--The Old Course
34. JC Jones: [Rye, Toronto, St Andrews Eden to Miller]
                   Watson - Olympic (Lake), Harding Park, The Belvedere from MIller (66)
57. JC Jones: Fownes - [Oakmont to Flemma]
                   Raynor - Yale, Mid-Ocean in 3way from Miller (25) for Q. Ridge, Philly Cr. from Flemma (33)
64. JC Jones: Willie Park, Jr. - Maidstone, Huntercombe and Olympia Fields
87. JC Jones:  Wilson - Pine Tree, NCR South, Cog Hill #4
94.  JC Jones:  RTJ Sr. - Baltusrol [Lower], Point o' Woods, Congressional
117. JC Jones: MacKenzie - Alwoodley, Ganton, Scarlet Course

5. Mac Plumart: Dye - Kiawah Ocean, Pete Dye Golf Club of WV, and The Golf Club
26. Mac Plumart: Fazio - Shadow Creek, Gozzer Ranch, The Green Monkey
35. Mac Plumart: Willie Fernie - Troon, Turnberry (Ailisa), Shiskine.
56. Mac Plumart: Drew Rogers/Arthur Hills - Oitavos Dunes, Olde Stone, and Country Club of Columbus
65. Mac Plumart: Muirhead - Stone Harbor, CC Boca Raton 1 & 2
86. Mac Plumart:  Some crazy yaks - Phulbari Resort and Spa, The Himalayan Golf Club, Gokarna Golf Resort and Spa
95.  Mac Plumart:  Red Lawrence - Desert Forest, University of New Mexico GC, Boulders CC in Arizona
116. Mac Plumart: Weiskopf/Moorish; Loch Lomond, Forest Highlands (Canyon), Double Eagle

6. Alex Miller: Tillinghast - San Francisco Golf Club, Bethpage Black, Winged Foot (West)
25. Alex Miller: Raynor - Fishers Island, [Yale, Mid-Ocean to Jones]
                     Tillie - Quaker Ridge, Philly Cricket (Wissa.) in 3way from Flemma (33) for Oakmont (57) from Jones
36. Alex Miller: Jack - Cabo del Sol, Muifield Village, and Harbourtown
55. Alex Miller: Kyle P - Cal Club, Kingsbarns, and Dundonald
66. Alex Miller: [The Belvedere, Olympic (Lake), Harding Park to Jones]
                     Colt - Rye, Toronto, St. Andrews (Eden) from Jones (34)
85. Alex Miller: Jones II - Chambers, Westchester, Spanish Bay
96. Alex Miller: Bell - Torrey South, Sandpiper, Hawaii Kai
115. Alex Miller: Robin Nelson: Wind Valley golf club (private course), Kau Sai Chau, and Mangilao

7. Ron Montesano: Perry Maxwell - Old Town Club, Southern Hills and Prairie Dunes
24. Ron M: Walter Travis - Yahnundasis, Ekwanok, Lookout Point
37. Ron Montesano: Ross - Charles River, Aronomink, CC Rochester
54:  Ron Montesano:  Leeds - Bass Rocks, Kebo Valley, Myopia Hunt
67. Ron Montesano: Stiles/Van Kleek - Putterham Meadows, Taconic, Woods Hole
84: Ron Montesano:  Fazio - Wade Hampton, Martis Camp, Pine Hill
97. Ron Montesano:  Hurzan/Fry - Devil's Pulpit, Devil's Paintbrush, Erin Hills
114: Ron Montesano:  RTJ Sr. - Anglebrook, Crag Burn, Montauk Downs

8. Eric Smith: Old Tom - Royal County Down, Muirfield, Royal Dornoch
23. Eric Smith: Tom Simpson - Ballybunion (Old), Cruden Bay, Morfontaine
38. Eric Smith: MacKenzie - Kingston Heath, New South Wales, Royal Adelaide
53. Eric Smith: Colt - Woodhall Spa, Kennemer, De Pan
68. Eric Smith: Colt - Royal Portcawl, MIlwaukee GC, Hamilton GC
83. Eric Smith: Fowler - Walton Heath (Old), Saunton (East), Beau Desert
98. Eric Smith: Doak - Sheep Ranch, St. Andrews Beach-Gunnamatta, Heathland
113. Eric Smith:  James Braid - St. Enodoc, Panmure, Murcar

9. Tim Bert: Doak - Pacific Dunes, Ballyneal, Old Mac
22. Tim Bert: Mike DeVries - Kingsley, Greywalls, Mines
39. Tim Bert: Ross - Holston Hills, Beverly, Newport
52. Tim Bert:  Nuzzo - Wolf Point, Aztec Club, Swanson Golf Center
69. Tim Bert: Cupp - Pumpkin Ridge (Witch Hollow)m Sun River (Crosswater), Vanderbilt Legends North
82. Tim Bert: Fazio - Pine Barrens at World Woods, Karsten Creek, Pinehurst #4
99. Tim Bert:  Thompson - Capilano, Jasper, Westmount
112. Tim Bert:  MPCC Dunes, Pinehurst 7, Reynolds Plantation

10. Kalen Braley: William Flynn - Philly Country Club, The Country Club (Shinny already picked so no soup for you!)
21. Kalen Braley: Mike Young - Longshadow, Wolf Creek (GA), Southern Hills (GA)
40. Kalen Braley: Engh - Black Rock, Sanctuary, Lakota Canyon
51. Kalen Braley: Brauer - Giants Ridge, Sand Creek Station, Wilderness at Fortune Bay
70. Kalen Braley: Chandler Egan - Eugene Country Club, Indian Canyon, EastMoreland
81. Kalen Braley: Robert Muir Graves - Lake Merced, Sea Ranch, Quail Lodge
100. Kalen Braley:  Miller - Thanksgiving Point, Entrada, Metropolitan Links
111. Kalen Braley:  Bates - Circling Raven, Soldier Hollow-Gold, San Juan Oaks

11. Patrick Hodgdon - Coore & Crenshaw - Sand Hills, Bandon Trails, [Friar's Head traded to Ben S. for Pasatiempo #18]
20. Patrick Hodgdon: Hugh Wilson - Merion East & West, Cobb's Creek
41. Patrick Hodgdon: Doak - Cape Kidnappers, Bay of Dreams, and Lost Dunes
50. Patrick Hodgdon: Mackenzie: Valley Club of Montecito, Jockey Club (Cancha Colorada), Titirangi
71. Patrick Hodgdon: David McLay Kidd - Bandon Dunes, The Castle Course at St. Andrews, Machrihanish Dunes.
80. Patrick Hodgdon: CBM - Piping Rock, St. Louis CC, The Creek Club
101. Patrick Hodgdon - Flynn - Kittanset, Lehigh, Indian Creek
110. Patrick Hodgdon: Ross - Interlachen, Biltmore Forest, Biltmore (Coral Gables)

12. Jim Colton: HS Colt - Pine Valley, Royal Portrush, Sunningdale (Old)
19. Jim Colton Doak - Barnbougle, Rock Creek, Sebonack
42. Jim Colton: CH Alison - Hirono, Kawana, Naruo
49. Jim Colton: Pete Dye - Casa de Campo (Teeth of the Dog), TPC Sawgrass, The Honors Course
72. Jim Colton: George Lowe Jr - Royal Birkdale, Royal Lytham, Seascale Golf Club
79. Jim Colton - Ross - Inverness, Scioto, East Lake
102. Jim Colton: Marsh: Prairie Club (Pines), Sutton Bay, The Vines (Lakes)
109. Jim Colton:  Dye - Crooked Stick, Long Cove, Blackwolf Run (River)

13. Dell Sims: Raynor - Camargo, Shoreacres, Yeaman's Hall
18. Dell Sims: MacKenzie -  Augusta, Royal Melbourne, [Pasatiempo traded to Patrick H. for Friar's Head #11]
43. Dell Sims: RT Jones:  Valderamma, Peachtree GC, Spyglass Hill
48. Dell Sims: Jack Neville - Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove
73. Dell Sims: Old Tom -  Royal North Devon (Westward Ho!), Lundin Links, Crail Golfing Society (Balcomie Links)
78. Dell Sims - David Strath - North Berwick
103. Dell Sims:  Raynor - CC Charleston, Lookout Mountain, Blue Mound
108. Dell Sims:  Kidd - Nanea, Queenswood, tetherow

14. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Oak Hill East/West, Teugega
17. JNC Lyon: Emmet - Leatherstocking, Garden City, Seawane
44. JNC_Lyon: Raynor--Mountain Lake (FL), Country Club of Fairfield, Fox Chapel.
47. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Essex County Club (MA), Plainfield, Country Club of Buffalo
74. JNC_Lyon: Herbert Strong - Engineers, Canterbury, Saucon Valley (Old)
77. JNC_Lyon: Banks - Forsgate, Hackensack , and Whippoorwill
104. JNC_Lyon:  C&C - Cuscowilla, The Warren Course, Sugarloaf Mountain
107. JNC_Lyon: Smyers: Old Memorial, Wolf Run, The Members Club at Four Streams

15. Rob Rigg: Thompson - Highlands Links, St George's, Banff Springs
16. Rob Rigg: Thomas - Riviera, LACC - North, Bel Air
45. Rob Rigg: Hanse - Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon, Boston Golf Club
46. Rob Rigg: Hackett - Carne, Eniscrone, Waterville
75. Rob Rigg: C&C - Dormie Club, We Ko Pa Saguaro, Chechessee
76. Rob Rigg: Braid - Brora, Nairn, Deal
105. Rob Rigg: Whitman - Cabot Links, Sagebrush, Blackhawk
106. Rob Rigg:  Ruddy - The European Club, Rosapenna (Sandy Hills), Ballyliffin (Glashedy)

« Last Edit: November 02, 2009, 10:13:36 AM by Jim Colton »

Jud_T

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft - NEED JUDGES
« Reply #545 on: November 02, 2009, 10:39:28 AM »
Those who I consider as serious  competition to my team:

Hodgdon
Colton
Rigg
Smith

Honorable mention to Tim for picking some of my absolute favorites with his first two rounds, but falling off sharply thereafter keeps him out of the first rank IMHO....
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

Eric Smith

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft - NEED JUDGES
« Reply #546 on: November 02, 2009, 03:44:22 PM »
Taking a closer look at the teams after all the dust has settled I think Jud's team probably wins over my own.  When we finished I considered Jim to have assembled the strongest lineup of all the teams and maybe I still do.  Those two will duke it out for top gun honors I'm sure.  Maybe I can squeak out a show position in this race.

I think I was too focused on links golf, but no regrets as that was really the most fun of it for me. Throughout this draft I was able to find out a little more about them along the way while certainly riding a high knowing that I'm going to Buda next year to actually play links golf.

In my opinion everyone excelled at this exercise.  Mac undoubtedly was having a ton of fun with the whole thing, evidenced by his out of nowhere Desmond Muirhead and the Jaws of Death pick, then backing it up with his viva Nepal trio.  A great jolt of exuberance on here coming from the ATL for sure.  It's nice reading his thoughtful threads of late on here.

Don't you guys kind of miss the 'on the clock' adrenaline??  I was having to check in just as I awoke and was following along at bedtime, so as not to have time expire on my sleeping ass which seemed to be the case with my draft position for most of this thing.  Fortunately I always had the World Atlas of Golf handy, the older one (1991) at work and the new one on my night stand at home with pen and paper scribbles of potential plays.  WAofG is great reading for the gca nerdanado - everyone should have one (or two!)

Thank you for the thread Jim and everyone who participated, I thoroughly enjoyed it. 

Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #547 on: November 02, 2009, 03:57:17 PM »
If Bill, Sean, Tom and any of the 3 other people who paid attention to this this thread want to rank who they feel have the strongest teams (say top 5), I will compile the opinions and crown the 'winner' of the draft.  Feel free to post your top 5 on the thread or PM me with your ballot.

Just use the following basic criteria: Which team would I most like to own?

1. Jud Tigerman: MacKenzie - Crystal Downs, Cypress Point, Palmetto
30. Jud Tigerman: Old Tom - prestwick, lahinch, machrihanish
31. Jud Tigerman: Coore/Crenshaw - austin golf club, old sandwich, lost farm
60. Jud Tigerman: Langford- Lawsonia, Skokie, Harrison Hills
61. Jud Tigerman: Doak - Stonewall (old), Rennaisance Club, Stone Eagle
90. Jud Tigerman:  Hawtree- Western Gailes, Hillside, Island
91. Jud Tigerman:  Alex Russell - Paraparaumu Beach, Royal Melbourne (East), Yarra Yarra
110. Jud Tigerman: Colt-Royal Worlington, Formby, Ganton

2. Jaeger Kovich: CBM - The National, Shinnecock, Chicago Golf
29. Jaeger Kovich: Colt - Swinley Forrest, and St George's Hill (Muirfield already picked)
32. Jaeger Kovich: - James Braid - Carnoustie, Gleneagles, and Royal Aberdeen
59. Jaeger Kovich: Tilly - Somerset Hills, Winged Foot East, and Baltimore CC East
62. Jaeger Kovich: Coore & Crenshaw - The Plantation Course, Talking Stick (North) and Hidden Creek
89. Jaeger Kovich:  Flynn: Lancaster Country Club, Huntingdon Valley, The Homestead Cascades
92.  Jaeger Kovich:  Tillinghast - Ridgewood, Fenway, (Newport selected but ineligible:  already taken)
119. Jaeger Kovich: Greg Norman - Ellerston, The Medalist Club, and THE NATIONAL MOONAH COURSE

3. Jay Flemma: Strantz - MPCC Shore, Bulls Bay, Tobacco Road
28. Jay Flemma:  ross - oakland hills, white bear, the balsams (panorama)
33. Jay Flemma:  Tilly...Sleepy Hollow [Quaker Ridge, Philly Cricket (Wissahickon) to Miller]
                         Fownes...Oakmont (57) in 3way from Jones for Mid-Ocean and Yale from Miller (25)
58. Jay Flemma:  William Flynn - Atlantic City C.C., Cherry Hills, Rolling Green
63. Jay Flemma: Perry Maxwell - University of Michigan, Oklahoma City Golf and Country Club, Colonial!
88. Jay Flemma:  Banks - The Knoll Club (West), Essex County Country Club, Tamarack
93.  Jay Flemma: Dye - Bulle Rock, Whistling Straits [straits course], Antigua
118. Jay Flemma: Brian Silva - Black Rock, Black Creek, Red Tail

4. JC Jones: Ross - Pinehurst #2, Seminole, Wannamoisett
27. JC Jones: God--The Old Course
34. JC Jones: [Rye, Toronto, St Andrews Eden to Miller]
                   Watson - Olympic (Lake), Harding Park, The Belvedere from MIller (66)
57. JC Jones: Fownes - [Oakmont to Flemma]
                   Raynor - Yale, Mid-Ocean in 3way from Miller (25) for Q. Ridge, Philly Cr. from Flemma (33)
64. JC Jones: Willie Park, Jr. - Maidstone, Huntercombe and Olympia Fields
87. JC Jones:  Wilson - Pine Tree, NCR South, Cog Hill #4
94.  JC Jones:  RTJ Sr. - Baltusrol [Lower], Point o' Woods, Congressional
117. JC Jones: MacKenzie - Alwoodley, Ganton, Scarlet Course

5. Mac Plumart: Dye - Kiawah Ocean, Pete Dye Golf Club of WV, and The Golf Club
26. Mac Plumart: Fazio - Shadow Creek, Gozzer Ranch, The Green Monkey
35. Mac Plumart: Willie Fernie - Troon, Turnberry (Ailisa), Shiskine.
56. Mac Plumart: Drew Rogers/Arthur Hills - Oitavos Dunes, Olde Stone, and Country Club of Columbus
65. Mac Plumart: Muirhead - Stone Harbor, CC Boca Raton 1 & 2
86. Mac Plumart:  Some crazy yaks - Phulbari Resort and Spa, The Himalayan Golf Club, Gokarna Golf Resort and Spa
95.  Mac Plumart:  Red Lawrence - Desert Forest, University of New Mexico GC, Boulders CC in Arizona
116. Mac Plumart: Weiskopf/Moorish; Loch Lomond, Forest Highlands (Canyon), Double Eagle

6. Alex Miller: Tillinghast - San Francisco Golf Club, Bethpage Black, Winged Foot (West)
25. Alex Miller: Raynor - Fishers Island, [Yale, Mid-Ocean to Jones]
                     Tillie - Quaker Ridge, Philly Cricket (Wissa.) in 3way from Flemma (33) for Oakmont (57) from Jones
36. Alex Miller: Jack - Cabo del Sol, Muifield Village, and Harbourtown
55. Alex Miller: Kyle P - Cal Club, Kingsbarns, and Dundonald
66. Alex Miller: [The Belvedere, Olympic (Lake), Harding Park to Jones]
                     Colt - Rye, Toronto, St. Andrews (Eden) from Jones (34)
85. Alex Miller: Jones II - Chambers, Westchester, Spanish Bay
96. Alex Miller: Bell - Torrey South, Sandpiper, Hawaii Kai
115. Alex Miller: Robin Nelson: Wind Valley golf club (private course), Kau Sai Chau, and Mangilao

7. Ron Montesano: Perry Maxwell - Old Town Club, Southern Hills and Prairie Dunes
24. Ron M: Walter Travis - Yahnundasis, Ekwanok, Lookout Point
37. Ron Montesano: Ross - Charles River, Aronomink, CC Rochester
54:  Ron Montesano:  Leeds - Bass Rocks, Kebo Valley, Myopia Hunt
67. Ron Montesano: Stiles/Van Kleek - Putterham Meadows, Taconic, Woods Hole
84: Ron Montesano:  Fazio - Wade Hampton, Martis Camp, Pine Hill
97. Ron Montesano:  Hurzan/Fry - Devil's Pulpit, Devil's Paintbrush, Erin Hills
114: Ron Montesano:  RTJ Sr. - Anglebrook, Crag Burn, Montauk Downs

8. Eric Smith: Old Tom - Royal County Down, Muirfield, Royal Dornoch
23. Eric Smith: Tom Simpson - Ballybunion (Old), Cruden Bay, Morfontaine
38. Eric Smith: MacKenzie - Kingston Heath, New South Wales, Royal Adelaide
53. Eric Smith: Colt - Woodhall Spa, Kennemer, De Pan
68. Eric Smith: Colt - Royal Portcawl, MIlwaukee GC, Hamilton GC
83. Eric Smith: Fowler - Walton Heath (Old), Saunton (East), Beau Desert
98. Eric Smith: Doak - Sheep Ranch, St. Andrews Beach-Gunnamatta, Heathland
113. Eric Smith:  James Braid - St. Enodoc, Panmure, Murcar

9. Tim Bert: Doak - Pacific Dunes, Ballyneal, Old Mac
22. Tim Bert: Mike DeVries - Kingsley, Greywalls, Mines
39. Tim Bert: Ross - Holston Hills, Beverly, Newport
52. Tim Bert:  Nuzzo - Wolf Point, Aztec Club, Swanson Golf Center
69. Tim Bert: Cupp - Pumpkin Ridge (Witch Hollow)m Sun River (Crosswater), Vanderbilt Legends North
82. Tim Bert: Fazio - Pine Barrens at World Woods, Karsten Creek, Pinehurst #4
99. Tim Bert:  Thompson - Capilano, Jasper, Westmount
112. Tim Bert:  MPCC Dunes, Pinehurst 7, Reynolds Plantation

10. Kalen Braley: William Flynn - Philly Country Club, The Country Club (Shinny already picked so no soup for you!)
21. Kalen Braley: Mike Young - Longshadow, Wolf Creek (GA), Southern Hills (GA)
40. Kalen Braley: Engh - Black Rock, Sanctuary, Lakota Canyon
51. Kalen Braley: Brauer - Giants Ridge, Sand Creek Station, Wilderness at Fortune Bay
70. Kalen Braley: Chandler Egan - Eugene Country Club, Indian Canyon, EastMoreland
81. Kalen Braley: Robert Muir Graves - Lake Merced, Sea Ranch, Quail Lodge
100. Kalen Braley:  Miller - Thanksgiving Point, Entrada, Metropolitan Links
111. Kalen Braley:  Bates - Circling Raven, Soldier Hollow-Gold, San Juan Oaks

11. Patrick Hodgdon - Coore & Crenshaw - Sand Hills, Bandon Trails, [Friar's Head traded to Ben S. for Pasatiempo #18]
20. Patrick Hodgdon: Hugh Wilson - Merion East & West, Cobb's Creek
41. Patrick Hodgdon: Doak - Cape Kidnappers, Bay of Dreams, and Lost Dunes
50. Patrick Hodgdon: Mackenzie: Valley Club of Montecito, Jockey Club (Cancha Colorada), Titirangi
71. Patrick Hodgdon: David McLay Kidd - Bandon Dunes, The Castle Course at St. Andrews, Machrihanish Dunes.
80. Patrick Hodgdon: CBM - Piping Rock, St. Louis CC, The Creek Club
101. Patrick Hodgdon - Flynn - Kittanset, Lehigh, Indian Creek
110. Patrick Hodgdon: Ross - Interlachen, Biltmore Forest, Biltmore (Coral Gables)

12. Jim Colton: HS Colt - Pine Valley, Royal Portrush, Sunningdale (Old)
19. Jim Colton Doak - Barnbougle, Rock Creek, Sebonack
42. Jim Colton: CH Alison - Hirono, Kawana, Naruo
49. Jim Colton: Pete Dye - Casa de Campo (Teeth of the Dog), TPC Sawgrass, The Honors Course
72. Jim Colton: George Lowe Jr - Royal Birkdale, Royal Lytham, Seascale Golf Club
79. Jim Colton - Ross - Inverness, Scioto, East Lake
102. Jim Colton: Marsh: Prairie Club (Pines), Sutton Bay, The Vines (Lakes)
109. Jim Colton:  Dye - Crooked Stick, Long Cove, Blackwolf Run (River)

13. Dell Sims: Raynor - Camargo, Shoreacres, Yeaman's Hall
18. Dell Sims: MacKenzie -  Augusta, Royal Melbourne, [Pasatiempo traded to Patrick H. for Friar's Head #11]
43. Dell Sims: RT Jones:  Valderamma, Peachtree GC, Spyglass Hill
48. Dell Sims: Jack Neville - Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove
73. Dell Sims: Old Tom -  Royal North Devon (Westward Ho!), Lundin Links, Crail Golfing Society (Balcomie Links)
78. Dell Sims - David Strath - North Berwick
103. Dell Sims:  Raynor - CC Charleston, Lookout Mountain, Blue Mound
108. Dell Sims:  Kidd - Nanea, Queenswood, tetherow

14. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Oak Hill East/West, Teugega
17. JNC Lyon: Emmet - Leatherstocking, Garden City, Seawane
44. JNC_Lyon: Raynor--Mountain Lake (FL), Country Club of Fairfield, Fox Chapel.
47. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Essex County Club (MA), Plainfield, Country Club of Buffalo
74. JNC_Lyon: Herbert Strong - Engineers, Canterbury, Saucon Valley (Old)
77. JNC_Lyon: Banks - Forsgate, Hackensack , and Whippoorwill
104. JNC_Lyon:  C&C - Cuscowilla, The Warren Course, Sugarloaf Mountain
107. JNC_Lyon: Smyers: Old Memorial, Wolf Run, The Members Club at Four Streams

15. Rob Rigg: Thompson - Highlands Links, St George's, Banff Springs
16. Rob Rigg: Thomas - Riviera, LACC - North, Bel Air
45. Rob Rigg: Hanse - Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon, Boston Golf Club
46. Rob Rigg: Hackett - Carne, Eniscrone, Waterville
75. Rob Rigg: C&C - Dormie Club, We Ko Pa Saguaro, Chechessee
76. Rob Rigg: Braid - Brora, Nairn, Deal
105. Rob Rigg: Whitman - Cabot Links, Sagebrush, Blackhawk
106. Rob Rigg:  Ruddy - The European Club, Rosapenna (Sandy Hills), Ballyliffin (Glashedy)



Jim, I waived The balsams Panorama andc picked up Wild Horse on the waiver wire.

Guys, I still like my picks, even though it's weak internationally, I'll never tire of the places I have.  They are all interesting.
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner

Matt MacIver

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft - NEED JUDGES
« Reply #548 on: November 02, 2009, 04:09:05 PM »
Guys, I had a great time watching this all unfold, wish I had the time to put into it as much as each of you did.  Well done. 

I like seven of the teams enough to own but put Kovich's on just a slightly higher plain - let me know if you ever need a fourth. 

Ronald Montesano

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft - NEED JUDGES
« Reply #549 on: November 02, 2009, 04:26:15 PM »
I can imagine a GCA golf outing...some of the guys are there to measure their wangs while others are there for the camaraderie.  The camaraderie of the draft was what kept me going.  I'm thrilled that some guys are competitive enough to need a win on this thing; the world needs competitors.  I somehow think that I would enjoy the camaraderie guys like Jay in my foursome, although I wouldn't back down from any of y'uns (as they say in Maine.)
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

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