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Emil Weber

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New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« on: October 17, 2009, 11:21:35 PM »
There's a lot of talk about NSW here on GCA but I couldn't find a complete photo tour, so here we go...

Despite being the only cloudy day we had while in Sydney, the day at La Perouse was one of the most fun and pleasurable golfing days of my life (so far). The course is fantastic - a great routing, cool mix of strategic and penal holes, and stunningly beautiful. All the par 3s and par 5s play in different direction, and generally there are hardly 2 consecutive holes playing in the same direction, so the course plays great in almost any wind. The way the course flows in and out of ocean, bushes and wide open spaces is simply magnificent and probably makes it the most varied course I've played so far.

One thing that is unique to NSW are the bunkers. Most of them are sod-wall pot bunkers, but recently the club restored sandy, "natural" blow-outs which are NOT raked. Both the pots and the blow-outs are places you don't want to get into. Whenever I found such a blow-out, I hardly got it out because you seem to always get a bad lie in them.

Weaknesses? not really, although the greens are not too imaginative, approaches 13 and 16 are a liiiittle similar and the contrast of yellow couch-grass fairways and lush, green bent-greens looked a bit strange. That said, the fairways played nicely firm&fast while giving the average player the possibility to get his wedge under the ball.

But who cares about weaknesses if there are 10 times as many strengths that make up to it? Just get out and have some fun on the links, and NSW's adventurous routing and great holes certainly give you that fun.

The first , a 293 (278) metre, par 4 is a nice opening hole with a diagonal ridge that you can carry whereever you dare. The most aggressive line is over the cluster of bunkers which guard the inside of the hole, but the green is severely elevated and a short pitch might be harder than a full wedge. Sorry I didn't get a decent pic of No. 1. The tee shot is actually more diagonal, this pic is taken from the fairway.


There's been a lot of criticism on the 2nd, a 184 (165) metre par 3, but I couldn't figure out exactly what's wrong with it. A testing long iron to an elevated, angled green bunkered left and with a sharp drop off right.


In fact the only hole I didnt really like (might be because I made Quadtriple-bogey...) was the third, a par 4 of 380 (342) metres. A blind tee shot that doglegs almost 90 degrees to the left at an odd distance. The seconf shot is played uphill to a green bunkered short on both sides. For the average player, there is a lot of room, so I thought I'd play a safe long iron through the gap only to find a nasty, lonely bush.
This pic was taken from the 8th green and does NOT show the real angle of approach, which is more from the left. A great skyline green.


The fourth is a long straight par 4, the further you go, the more your tee shot is encroached by bunkers and the more you see of the flag. The green slopes left to right.
This is one of the natural sandy hazards that have been restored, on the right side of the 4th. Sorry, no good pics of the hole.


The famous 5th is probably the best par 5 I've ever played as it's both a strategic delight and of spectacular beauty. The hill can be carried, but lay-up is much safer and plays to a wide fairway that's shared with the 7th....The front part of the fairway is hidden by bushes, making the shot look more difficult than it is, and tempting more players to attempt the carry.


Once over the ridge, this is the view that waits....


Looking across the 7th fairway, 13th green and 14th hole....


The one-shot 6th is a another hole that combines great strategy with beautiful scenery. The ocean on the left gets most players to play to far right, which they think is safe. The green slopes extremely right-to-left and anything right of the greenwill have a really, really tough approach. There iis about 20 metres of space between the green and the ocean and while it looks dangerous, the chip or pitch is much easier from there. This pic is the view from the rear of the green towards the championship tee out on the rocky island. Make sure you play off that tee!


The drive at the 7th is a bit of a respite, as the fairway is bowl-shaped and gathers everything slightly off-line towards the middle. The 2nd shot thoguh is one of the hardest on the course. Starkly uphill, long, mostly into the wind, to a false-fronted, tricky green...This is the view from the tee with the tumbling 5th fairway at the right and the 7th fairway on the left.


Looking back the 7th, revealing the shared fairway with the 5th (the wide lay-up area I was talking about at the 5th)


The 8th is a great par 5 with a ridge at over 300 metres, which is virtually impossible to carry but still makes you think. A long drive simply smashed out towards the fairway will be blocked by the ridge and sandwiched between two bunkers, so the smart play is a lay-up.
The sandy blow-out to the right of the 8th fairway with the ridge;


Once over the ridge, this is the approach to a nicely-framed, back-to front sloping green:


The 9th is a tricky par 4, with a fairway that feeds anything longer than 190 (or so) and shorter than 250 metres into one of those nasty blow-outs...

Hole number 10 is a shortish, straight par 4 and the farher you go, the more trouble awaits. As viewed from the 18th in the evening:


The 11th is the 3rd of 4great par 3s and plays about 149 off the tips to an exposed, well-bunkered and large green. The intimidating bunker that guards the 12th fairway is directly in line....


The 12th follows the same strategy that the 5th possesses, with either a dangerous carry over a ridge bringing the green into reach or a safe lay-up with a troublesome 2nd.
Looking back n°12 (it was windy...):


Hole number 13 is a great par 4, with a bite-as-much-off-as-you-can strategic tee shot and one of the most spectacular approaches in the world to a right-to-left sloping green.


I strongly recommend playing off the back tee of the 14th, as there is a much cooler "Cape" angle to the tee shot. The fairway gathers everything that just makes the ridge at any point and the approach is played to a rather exposed green. There is a really cool back-right pin position which will be interesting to watch at the 2009 Australian Open, held here.


The 15th is a penal hole with the tightest fairway on the course. A tee shot that goes about 210 metres will make the green visible, but the 2nd shot has to be navigated across rolling humps and bumps. Looking back:


At the 16th, you need a solid drive to make it to the corner of the dogleg, from where you are presented with many options to approach the green. Approach as viewed from the 12th fairway:


The 17th may not be the longest, but into the wind it is the hardest par 3 on the course. The tee-shot is deceiving, as the sandy blow-out hides about 30 metres of fairway between it and the green.


The blow out can be frustrating for some players...


This is how much space there is between bunker and green: The green has sharp drop-offs to the left and right, and into the wind, you need a dead straight shot to stay safe.


The 18th is a little bit over-bunkered, but still a good strategic finioshing par-5 for an Australian OPen. As viewed from the 10th green:


And close-up from the 11th tee with Sydney Skyline in the backround:


For more details go to Ran's review!

Cheers,
Emil
« Last Edit: October 17, 2009, 11:24:34 PM by Emil Weber »

Andrew Summerell

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2009, 01:01:29 AM »
Thanks for the photos Emil. I'm glad you enjoyed it as it's a course I love to play myself. I'm actually out there next Sunday.

The Couch fairways start to green up around this time of year, unless we have a dry summer.

Jon Heise

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2009, 01:05:06 AM »
I WANT TO GO TO THERE.
I still like Greywalls better.

Mark_F

Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 01:43:42 AM »

cool mix of strategic and penal holes

Both the pots and the blow-outs are places you don't want to get into. Whenever I found such a blow-out, I hardly got it out because you seem to always get a bad lie in them.

Thanks for the tour Emil.

Given the severity of the bunkers, the savagery lining many fairways, and the fact that many of the greens are bunkered both sides, there wouldn't appear to be a sound reason to flirt with the sides of many fairways.  It seems quite penal.

Kyle Henderson

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2009, 03:27:36 AM »
Great tour, Emil. If I ever manage a second trip outside of North America, Australia is at the top of my list.
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Josh Stevens

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2009, 05:23:17 AM »
Wow - it is looking good, havent played there in years.  TThe bunkering however is something of a moving feast, used to have pretty awful little dish shaped things, but they started to move to more linksy revetted about 5-10 years ago, but the waste bunkers are very new - not sure who is doing the work?

I note however the 18th seems to have changed - the old green was lightly bunkered and the front of the green was protected by a steep little shelf that was covered with long grass and so you had no run up option other than trying to swing one off the bank on the left.  Seems that has been completely removed and replaced with a more conventional setup.  HHmm, not sure, the old one was rather quirky but kinda nice. 

Still, it will be a treat for the open next year, with a 30mph southerly buster this is probably the toughest track in Oz.  Has never held and open before due to logistical constraints, about time they managed to get it on the rota and clearly the club is doing itself up.

James Boon

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2009, 05:34:52 AM »
Emil,

Thanks for these pictures!

I'm no expert on Aussie courses but I really hope that I'll manage to get down there at some point to play golf, and NSW looks a must play!

Cheers,

James
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Philip Gawith

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2009, 07:44:16 AM »
Thanks Emil - brings back some very fond memories. NSW is certainly one of the most memorable courses I have played. I posted some pictures - maybe early 2006 or 2007, I can't recall.

Scott Warren

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 09:35:47 AM »
Thanks a lot for the pics.

They were re-building the 18th green last time I was there (Feb 08) before I moved OS, and that is my first look at how it finished up.

Just going by the pics, I like it. I used to think there was too much latitude to just fire for the green, or just short, in two and if you were short there wasn't too much to look out for.

I'm hoping we might be able to arrange a day at NSWGC directly before/after the Aussie GCA event - just another lure for those North Americans and Brits/Euros thinking of coming.

Josh Stevens

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2009, 12:54:06 PM »
If you were to put NSWGC in California or Long Island, where do you think it would get rated on the US top 100 list?

I can recall being in Sydney 25 years ago - the course was tatty, the club was scratching for money and was on a membership drive, offering all sorts of incentives to sign up.  It still suffers from being a tad too far from the eastern suburbs, so the bankers, lawyers and old money still play closer to town at the Australian, Royal Sydney and the Lakes, but good to see it is stretching its lead as the only real quality track in Sydney.

Ash Towe

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2009, 02:07:37 PM »
Emil,
Thanks for the tour.  I hope to get my chance to play there in early January.  Seeing your photos increases the anticipation.

Ian Andrew

Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2009, 02:19:05 PM »
3 weeks - just three weeks away!  ;D

Scott Warren

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2009, 02:28:11 PM »
Indeed, Ian, this thread is well-timed for the GCAs going on the tour!

Is it true they have you fellas staying at Watsons Bay? Not a bad arrangement!!

Richard Chamberlain

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2009, 10:31:55 PM »
3 weeks - just three weeks away!  ;D
I'll make sure I have you tucked neatly in bed by 9am on the Sunday evening. Don't want to ruin this fantastic day by turning up on the tee seedy. (at least thats the match plan on paper, and these plans usually come unstuck)

Scott..we have moved out to Bondi for our accom.

Its going to be a sensational week.

Emil Weber

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2009, 12:26:28 AM »
Mark,
There are no strategic holes in the classic sense, say, fairway bunker left green bunker right. But there are angled tee shots at 1,13 and 14 and go for it or lay-up decisions at 5,8 and 12, plus the tee shot at the 9th is really tricky.

Josh,
Yeah the 18th was changed in 2008 and yes, it seems more conventional but pretty good for a tournament finish. Does anybody know who did the changes?

Can't wait to see it again at the Open in december!!

Dustin Knight

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2009, 03:36:45 AM »
Emil,

This thread could not have come at a better time for me. Im sitting here salivating at what lies ahead as I am playing New South tomorrow morning then heading over to the Lakes to sample Mike's new work. The new 18th looks fabulous!

Ash,

IM me with regard to your trip in January. I was at work several days ago and happened to see an email regarding a golf booking at the course where I am the asisstant. I almost emailed to see if it was the Ash Towe of GCA fame haha. Judging by your post Im sure it was!! Not quite a Tom Paul pizza guy moment but pretty close!
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Emil Weber

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2009, 03:43:12 AM »
No worries mate ;)

Mike_Clayton

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2009, 03:47:39 AM »
Dustin,

I expect a full report - it's been a few months since I have seen it.
I hope you enjoy it.Take a shot to the 13th green from the little unmarked tee to the right of the 12th green.It is probably a par three from there but it is a fun shot.

Dustin Knight

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2009, 04:17:36 AM »
Mike,

I will be taking the camera and hopefully taking a truckload of photos to compile a detailed report for all on the site. Having played the old course many times I really think I will be shocked and suprised as we exit the tunnel en route to the 2nd tee. I take it you are heading to Perth for the legends events? I was there 6 weeks ago and Karrinyup was looking amazing! The bunkers had that fabulous rustic natural look, needless to say I was extremely impressed. It has me jumping with excitement as to what lies ahead at The Lakes tomorrow. I will certainly be interested to obtain your thoughts as to the changes and the reasoning behind them once I have experienced them first hand.

Cheers
Dustin
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Andrew Summerell

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2009, 05:54:15 AM »

Yeah the 18th was changed in 2008 and yes, it seems more conventional but pretty good for a tournament finish. Does anybody know who did the changes?


Bob Harrison

Scott Warren

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2009, 06:15:50 AM »
Dustin,

Is it true you proposed to your missus on the 6th at NSWGC?

Dustin Knight

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2009, 06:26:51 AM »
Scott,

I see you either know me or have done your homework ;D On August 31 last year I proposed on the Championship tee on 6 at NSW. If that doesn't class me as a GCA tragic what does ;) We both played that day and are currently planning the honeymoon for Kapalua next year. Also getting married on a golf course ::) ::)
Lost Farm........ WOW!

Anthony Gray

Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2009, 01:25:55 PM »


  Emil,

  Great contribution. This course was on a video game several years ago. Looks stunning.

  Anthony


Niall C

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2009, 02:03:25 PM »
Emil

Many thanks for the pics, the course does indeed look absolutely fantastic. Looks like some great contours off and on the green. Does anyone else think the approach to the 8th green is very reminiscent of the first par 5 at Kingsbarns (4th ?) ? Especially the first bunker on the right.

Niall

Emil Weber

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Re: New South Wales GC - pictures!!!
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2009, 03:54:18 AM »
Good onya Dustin! :D

Niall,
The green complexes are good, but IMO not as great as the rest of the course. A majority of greens are bunkered on both sides but yeah if you miss the green there are some fun recoverys  :)

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