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Scott Weersing

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2009, 08:25:56 AM »
Any projects starting or finishing in California?

Los Valles by Palmer golf design is another project that has been put on hold. It was suppose to be built in the hills near Valencia, CA.
I can't think of any courses being built or growing in California.

http://www.the-signal.com/news/archive/5110/


Tom_Doak

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #76 on: August 19, 2009, 08:56:47 AM »
And you know what they say, as California goes, so goes the nation.

Which is bad news, since California is passing out IOU's instead of paychecks these days.

Mike Hendren

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #77 on: August 19, 2009, 09:18:50 AM »
Near Nashville:

Art Hills' Westhaven opens in a few weeks.   We have seen three projects halted during various stages of construction, including sodding of fairways:  Gary Nicklaus' Bear Creek, Norman's Laurel Cove and a Von Hagge design on Tanya Tucker's former estate.  The following photo (frilly edged bunker alert) from Laurel Cove is dated as the course has gone to seed since Lehman Bros. defaulted on the loan.



Mike
« Last Edit: August 19, 2009, 10:44:43 AM by Michael_Hendren »
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

Tim Leahy

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #78 on: August 19, 2009, 01:04:45 PM »
I called an old phone # for a former Nicklaus project in Fresno, Ca called Running Horse that I thought was dead and someone answered and told me that they are still trying to get funding to finish the project. I guess they built two holes then stopped. I remember that Trump tried to buy it but couldn't get any help from the city of Fresno. Anyone know anything more? I know they even had a PGA tourny date originally in 2009.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2009, 01:26:09 PM »
I checked with Player, Crenshaw, Lehman and Norman yesterday whilst being a starter at the pro-am for the Jeld Wen Tradition at Crosswater. Asked how many were active-moving dirt, grow-in.
Player has one, Crenshaw two (Dormie and China), Lehman has two and Norman fourteen, soon to be fifteen. I checked Norman's design website and it listed 23 courses under construction.

Aidan Bradley

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2009, 02:01:30 PM »
Not sure how accurate Mr Normans list is, as the course below was shut down a couple of years ago and went into bankruptcy. I photographed the course and was subsequently stiffed....... This happened  before the sub prime crisis surfaced.......

Name: McAllister Ranch Country Club
Location: Bakersfield California United States
Golf Course Designer: Greg Norman
Status: In Progress
Official Site: http://www.mcallisterliving.com

An 18-hole public daily fee course. McAllister Ranch is a SunCal master planned community with over 6000 residents at completion. This is the first GNGCD course in California's growing Central Valley. Scheduled to open in the Spring of 2008.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2009, 02:17:44 PM »
That is why I pointed out that his website lists about 23, and he has revised this downward to 14 now, 15 shortly. I did not depose him under oath.

ChipRoyce

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2009, 02:38:46 PM »
I play with Rick Robbins who's based here in NC.

He's said that he's been very, very fortunate and his business has grown exponentially based on the success of projects in China.

If I count correctly, he has 3 renovations over the next 3 years (3 courses here at Prestonwood), one or two in NC, and the remainder in China (I believe at least 4 different projects, each with multiple courses).

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2009, 11:19:10 PM »
Hey Thad!

How's the falls course?

Cheers
Mike
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Joel Zuckerman

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2009, 11:15:01 AM »
I spoke with Perry Dye the other day and he tells me that his course in Honduras (Roatan Island, specifically) called Black Pearl will be opening in the next sevearl months.

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #85 on: August 25, 2009, 11:39:38 PM »
There are the 2 TPC san antonio courses

I had lunch with someone who's region is 7 states - including texas.
He knew of 2.5 project starting construction


If Palmer's only project this year is one they own...
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Lynn_Shackelford

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #86 on: August 26, 2009, 01:07:16 AM »
If and when it becomes official, and the Olympics will accept in golf in 2016 is China really committed to building 1,400 public golf courses by 2016?  I read this in GolfWeek.  Is there anyone out there who has information on this other than rumors?

It must be kept in mind that the elusive charm of the game suffers as soon as any successful method of standardization is allowed to creep in.  A golf course should never pretend to be, nor is intended to be, an infallible tribunal.
               Tom Simpson

B. Mogg

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #87 on: August 26, 2009, 08:37:51 AM »
If and when it becomes official, and the Olympics will accept in golf in 2016 is China really committed to building 1,400 public golf courses by 2016?  I read this in GolfWeek.  Is there anyone out there who has information on this other than rumors?



Total fabrication by someone or a major typo. No way is the Chinese government going to invest so much money in a sport still viewed as very elitist - and no company is going to pony up the bucks. If it was soccer pitches or badminton halls there would be a chance.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #88 on: August 31, 2009, 09:15:22 PM »
Dan Hermann

Re -Applecross in Chester County, PA(Nicklaus Design)

From the GM today:
"The golf course construction is about two weeks from being completed. The front 9 is complete and the back 9 should be in its grow in over the next couple of weeks. The temporary clubhouse will break ground any day. So far is on schedule for a June/July 2010 opening."
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Ron Farris

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #89 on: August 31, 2009, 09:57:19 PM »
I have a driving range project going, mid-construction.
It is also billed as a short game center with multiple informal tee complexes, allowing it to be played as a 9 hole course for kids, or possibly drunken members with cigars. 

I did a routing plan earlier this year, but that course is likely not going to happen for a couple years. 
My wife tells me to get involved in the Wind Industry.  I told her that I have been in it for years.

Steve Lang

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2009, 07:23:45 AM »
guess, with out looking at properties link  ::)

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Brian_Ewen

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #91 on: September 26, 2009, 04:29:56 AM »
I noticed today in the Phnom Penh Post , that there has been an announcememnt of a new course to be built at Angkor by DmcLK .

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2009092528582/Siem-Reap-Insider/resort-tees-up-course-designer.html

Resort tees up course designer
Friday, 25 September 2009 15:01 Peter Olszewski


Internationally renowned Scottish golf course architect David McLay Kidd was in Siem Reap for just over 24 hours before he landed in the rough – the car returning him from an inspection of a new golf course site on the outskirts of Siem Reap slid off the road and had to be pulled back on track with ropes.

“I was thinking I would have to jog all the way back if it took another hour to get the car out,” a bemused Kidd told the Post. “That was early evening and I was worried I might miss my 11.30pm flight back to the US.”

The flying Scotsman was on a whirlwind trip to negotiate a forthcoming commission to design a new golf course to be built at a massive new $470 million entertainment, gaming and hotel complex, Bellus Angkor Resort & City.

The complex, being developed by Korean-based company, Intercity Group, is on a 265 hectare site, 22 kilometres north of Angkor Thom, and an opening ceremony is expected to take place in October.

Intercity Group acquired the concession for a casino and permission for other resort facilities in October 2008, which was widely reported in the regional media as a massive casino complex.

On December 10 last year, Korea’s Maeil Business Newspaper reported that the Cambodian government “requested to arrange various facilities in order to prevent the resort from being degenerated into a casino-centered facility.”

While a gaming centre is still an important component of phase one of the development’s construction, more emphasis is now placed on other entertainment and sports amenities, such as several hotels with up to 750 rooms, a large ultra-modern convention centre, and three golf courses.

Two golf courses are still in doubt, contingent on the company being able to lease a further 180 hectares of government land. But construction of the first international golf course, an 18-holer to be built on the existing lease, will start early next year and should be completed by the end of 2011.

But first the course needs to be designed, hence the arrival of Oregon-based Mr Kidd, one of the world’s leading golf course creators.

He flew into Seoul from the US on Saturday September 12, arrived in Siem Reap on Saturday afternoon, toured the temples, played golf at the Angkor Golf Resort on Sunday morning, checked the site of the new golf course on Sunday afternoon, endured the off-road incident, dined at Red Piano at 9pm in the evening, spoke to 7Days, and then hightailed it to the airport.

He met two of the InterCity Group big boys who had also flown in from Seoul – Hyung-Joo Kim, CEO and president, and James Cho, CMO and vice president, plus Siem Reap-based company adviser Jae-Sub Chung.

All parties seemed to reach amicable accord so it would be a safe bet to say that Kidd will design the new golf course, which will become the fourth in Siem Reap.

Kidd said all parties seemed to have a similar mindset.

“So hopefully things will move quickly forward and I’ll get the opportunity to develop the idea of how Angkor Wat meets golf,” he said.

“My initial thoughts are that everything about this part of the world is the history and the mystery of the temples. The challenge is to consider what could be done on a golf course to create a similar look and feel, with that same prestige and mysterious culture.

“I don’t know how to do that yet, but I’m excited about the potential.”

InterCity Group vice president James Cho said, “Eventually we want to have 54 holes in total here so that will be two more golf courses, apart from the course that we hope David will design.

“Experts say it takes about five golf courses to make it a golf destination and of course golf is a big sport in Southeast Asia. There is a big Thai base of golfers here, and of course here Hun Sen likes golf, and with the driving range that’s now in Phnom Penh, we hope the sport will become more popular with Cambodians.”

Jeff Grossman

Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #92 on: October 12, 2009, 11:16:57 PM »
Tom,

9-Hole course in Jersey City, planning to start in Jan.  But who knows! Keeping the fingers crossed.

Scott Weersing

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Re: How Many New Courses are Under Construction Today?
« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2009, 11:21:23 PM »
guess, with out looking at properties link  ::)



I thought this might be California but it is TPC San Antonio.