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Paul_Turner

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New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« on: August 11, 2009, 03:31:00 PM »
Author of "To the Nines" Tony Pioppi is, I believe, planning to develop a 9 holer in Middletown, Connecticut with Brian Silva
as the designer.

Anybody know about this project?  Thanks.
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Donnie Beck

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Tim Gavrich

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 04:05:00 PM »
Yes!  That looks fantastic.  I can't wait to see how it turns out.  Congrats Tony!
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Donnie Beck

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Mike Sweeney

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 04:17:27 PM »
Tony,

What lake is that?

What is that in the middle?

Absolutely jealous, good luck.  

Donnie Beck

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Donnie Beck

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 04:20:52 PM »
Tony,

What lake is that?

What is that in the middle?

Absolutely jealous, good luck. 

Mike,

I have no idea what is in the middle but I believe the water is the Connecticut River
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2009, 04:30:43 PM »
That looks great?  It looks like three islands of golf...how do you walk from parcel A to B to C?  Reminds me of the late great Pistol Creek, also near Middletown.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2009, 05:35:43 PM »
Taht is the CT. River and you won't be walking from A to B, there'll be a shuttle.
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2009, 05:46:42 PM »
Ronald:

As usual, Jim is correct. The distance from green 2/11 to the tee for 3/12 is about 650 yards so there will be a shuttle.  It is a bit shorter route from 7/16 green to 8/17 tee, but the steep incline really discourages walking. We don't see that as a problem since the latest numbers show about 70 percent of golfers riding. The connecting bit of land is about 90 feet wide. To one side is private property and to the other is a state facility for troubled youth, so we have no way of expanding that corridor. The rest of site is easily walkable.

Anthony




ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 08:43:45 AM »
Here's the Silva routing laid onto a Google Earth image of the site courtesy of Tommy Naccarato.

Anthony


Tim Gerrish

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2009, 08:59:04 AM »
Nice on the aerial....  What happened to the name Quinnitukqut?  The view from 8/17 will be wonderful plus the 100' drop in elevation to the green.

Cheers

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2009, 06:07:57 PM »
Quinnitukqut, the original way the Dutch fir traders spelled Connecticut, is still very much a possibility. It's ust a lot easier to say and spell Arawana during the permitting process.

Here are three photos of hole 3/12. The first is taken from between the first and second landing areas. The hole will have a double fairway with the green sitting on the plateau to the right. The second photo is looking back down the fairway from about 20 yards in front of the green site. A pipeline being installed for the Kleen Energy power plant is the reason for the silt fences. Third picture is looking left from the green site at the Middletown court house, Connecticut River and Arrigoni Bridge.

Anthony







Mike Nuzzo

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2009, 10:50:15 PM »
pretty land
congratulations
can you tell us about your architect selection process?
i surmise you know quite a few, this would be high praise for mr. silva
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Rich Brittingham

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2009, 09:26:52 AM »
Tony,

What lake is that?

What is that in the middle?

Absolutely jealous, good luck.  
I grew up 10 minutes south of here.  The area in the middle seems to be CVH (Connecticut Valley Hospital)  Top spot to watch fireworks every 4th of July, great river views and views of the quaint city of Middletown.  Best part is after the round your only a short drive to Vechitto's Water Ice!

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2009, 09:32:10 AM »
Mike:

The process was pretty simple. I consider Brian a very good friend and I respect his work immensely. His use of angles and strategy is wonderful. I think his courses are highly underrated.

Brian also doesn’t over-inflate his role. One of the first times I met him, we were on a course under construction and I asked him why he chose to put a Punchbowl green in a particular location. He turned to me and said, “Big Guy, I know I’m supposed to make this process sound mysterious and I know I’m not supposed to say this, but sometimes a golf hole is already in the ground.”

A very enlightening moment since so many designers want you to believe they are converting lead to gold.

We had the same type of humorous conversation on Arawana’s third the first time we walked it together. “Alright, this hole is done.”
 
We spend a lot of time talking about golf courses (his and others) and he’s given me a lot of insight into the design side of the business. He’s also one of the few architects that I’ve met – Gil Hanse is another – who readily gives praise to other architects. I find that a very telling attribute of him as a person. While he may be brash, he doesn’t have the deep-seeded insecurity of so many in your business.

Brian has allowed me to give input during the design process and that will continue during construction. It was important for me to find someone who let me do that. It was also important to work with someone who had no problem in telling me my ideas are horse poopy and who also lets me question his decisions without taking it as some sort of personal attack.

In a perfect world, if Arawana does get built (anyone have $4 million laying around), I’d like other architects to stop in during construction and give their opinions. I know that Gil and Ron Forse have ongoing projects in New England; Tim Gerrish and Mark Mungeam are close by and I would hope they could make it to Middletown; you as well and any others who can find their way to Exit 12 off of Route 9.

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2009, 09:35:27 AM »
Mike

The buildings are part of River View Hospital for troubled youth and teens. Vecchitto's Italian Ice is four minutes away and downtown Middletown -- four and a half minutes away -- has turned into a restaurant mecca -- italian, sushi, Thai, Jamaican, steak, upscale Chinese, American Bistro, Mexican, Vietnamese.

Anthony


ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2009, 11:24:40 AM »
Live Blog: A new golf course for Middletown? Join in for a Live Blog with Anthony Pioppi who has plans to build a new 9-hole golf course in Middletown. Pioppi will talk about his project and answer your questions this Monday, Aug. 17 at 12:30 p.m. at www.ctgolfer.com.

Feel free to ask questions. Session should last about 40 minutes.

Anthony


Jim_Kennedy

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2009, 02:04:46 PM »
Tony,
Love to join you Monday, but I'll be playing golf.  ;)  ;D
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2009, 02:57:58 PM »
Tony,

Will  www.ctgolfer.com  have a transcript of your interview available for those who miss it live?
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

George Pazin

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2009, 04:05:38 PM »
Please share frequent updates.

 :)
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2009, 05:17:10 PM »
Jim:

I believe there will be a transcript. You're excuse is a legitimate one!

George:

I'll do my best. Here's the best place to keep up on what's happening:
http://anthonypioppi.blogspot.com/

Anthony

ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 06:00:06 PM »
Here's some recent press and the transcript of a live blog.

http://www.middletownpress.com/articles/2009/08/17/news/doc4a8a1699d836a329513352.txt

http://ctgolfer.com/news/blogs/liveblog.html

Interesting comments on both.

Anthony




Jim_Kennedy

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Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2009, 06:15:26 PM »
Just read the comments-  Good luck Bucky!!   ;D
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: New Nine Holer in Connecticut
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2009, 11:26:30 AM »
Presented plans at the Economic Development Commission meeting last night. Here's a synopsis:

http://anthonypioppi.blogspot.com/2009/09/arawana-economic-development-commission.html

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