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Jim Dawson

Weather in Scotland
« on: August 07, 2009, 04:18:24 PM »
I know that this is NOT the Weather Channel, but we have a group planning to go to Scotland next year and are wondering what is the difference in weather from middle May to middle June.
Thanks,
JD

Phil McDade

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 04:22:30 PM »
Jim:

See this:

http://www.albawest.com/weather.html

Generally, it's warmer and wetter on the west coast, drier and cooler on the east coast. My mid-May, you should be OK in terms of dodging any real cold weather if you head into the interior, i.e., the Highlands.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 04:25:46 PM »
I know that this is NOT the Weather Channel, but we have a group planning to go to Scotland next year and are wondering what is the difference in weather from middle May to middle June.
Thanks,
JD

No problem, all you need to do is take everything!  I was in St Andrews for the 2005 Open, wore a pair of shorts every day, the only ones I brought.  Luckily they were black.  There was a heat wave, in the high 80s low 90s.

Last June we wore rain gear and wind shirts. 

So it could be about anything so best to be prepared.  One important thing to pack is a truly waterproof pair of shoes, two is better for the afternoon round after a rainy morning.

What not to bring?  An umbrella, usually useless as it's typically windy when raining.

Have fun!

Jamie Barber

Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 04:35:47 PM »
What's the saying, if you can't see the hills, it'll be raining soon, and if you can, it's already raining...

Brent Hutto

Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 04:36:26 PM »
In late June of 2008 I was with the McBride group, wearing rain gear and wind shirts in the Highlands as Bill said. We had everything from 30mph gusts to heavy downpours to even a very brief (momentary) blast of sleet at one point. Plus some extremely dramatic and lovely warmer intervals with picture-postcard cloudscapes.

I drove from Dornoch to Glasgow at the end of our Highlands week, stopping off for a couple days at Pitlochrie in the mountains near the geographic center of Scotland. The thermometer in the car kept dropping and the rain kept falling, at it nadir the reading was 3C with the rain having little bits of sleet. That was near Aviemore. Miserable, dark winter weather.

An hour or so later in Pitlochrie the sun came out and it stayed 13-15C except for one brief rain squall over the next two day. Shirtsleeve golf weather each day. By the third day, I departed under cloudless skies and 18C temps.

Mark Arata

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 04:44:21 PM »
What is the weather usually like for the east coast in Late Aug/Early Sept? Trying to plan my packing for a 2 week trip. Not freezing cold at that time yet is it?
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Phil McDade

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 04:48:34 PM »
No, in fact quite pleasant, generally. Scotland's quite temperate in the fall.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2009, 04:50:07 PM »
What is the weather usually like for the east coast in Late Aug/Early Sept? Trying to plan my packing for a 2 week trip. Not freezing cold at that time yet is it?

Mark, see my post #2!  Pack everything for any eventuality, it could all happen in one day!

Mark Arata

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2009, 05:04:19 PM »
Well, that settles it then......


Golf trip to scotland, 5k.
Fed ex bill to ship entire wardrobe to St Andrews. 10k
Playing 17 courses and 28 rounds in 14 days without any semblance of a golf game........priceless........... ;D

New Orleans, proud to swim home...........

Bill_McBride

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 05:11:03 PM »
Well, that settles it then......


Golf trip to scotland, 5k.
Fed ex bill to ship entire wardrobe to St Andrews. 10k
Playing 17 courses and 28 rounds in 14 days without any semblance of a golf game........priceless........... ;D



LOL  ;D ;D ;D

However, you don't have to take everything, more like Noah only one of everything!

Some reasons why:

1.   You don't have to dress up at night.  Same clothes as golf makes you dressed up in Scottish restaurants.

2.   You have plenty of room in one little roller suitcase as long as you pack so much stuff in your golf bag cover that you almost bust the zippers.     And that's the best place to pack that bottle of whisky for the trip.

3.   You just need one wind shirt, one set of rain pants, one ski cap, one rain hat, one "Golf Club Atlas" logo cap.  Add a couple of turtles and a couple of golf shirts and a couple of pairs of khakis and you are all set.

David_Tepper

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 05:21:31 PM »
Jim -

I have spent 4 weeks in Dornoch from early May into early June each of the past 3 years.

The vast majority of days the temps have been between 50 & 70 degrees.
The vast majority of days there has been little or no rain.

During our three 4-week stays, I don't think there has been one visit where we have had more than 2 days where it rained all day and golf was pretty much impossible to play.

I doubt the weather is noticeably or predictably different on May 15 vs. June 15.

I can't speak to weather conditions elsewhere in Scotland.

DT
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Robin Doodson

Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2009, 06:34:52 PM »
As a Scotsman i can tell you that trying to pick the weather in Scotland is a bit like picking winning lottery numbers. When i used to work at Turnberry i actually saw an 80 degree day turn full circle into 35 degrees and snow. this was in june.

i guess this is the reason i now live in australia.

my best advice would be to prepare for the worst and if it does turn ugly just see it as part of the challenge of scottish golf.

either way you'll have fun.

robin

Sean_A

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2009, 06:37:10 PM »
Forget about the weather.  Just pack enough gear to take two days of coldish rain in a row and one hot day (hot meaning 20C) every 3rd or 4th day and everything else should fall into place.  

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Bill_McBride

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2009, 07:01:28 PM »
Forget about the weather.  Just pack enough gear to take two days of coldish rain in a row and one hot day (hot meaning 20C) every 3rd or 4th day and everything else should fall into place.  

Ciao

We are in full accord.

I'm hoping for good weather in Kent in September!

Sean_A

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2009, 07:07:57 PM »
Forget about the weather.  Just pack enough gear to take two days of coldish rain in a row and one hot day (hot meaning 20C) every 3rd or 4th day and everything else should fall into place.  

Ciao

We are in full accord.

I'm hoping for good weather in Kent in September!

Ace

Weather?  I look forward to a fine pint purchased on my behalf by your goodself.  It is my understanding that we shall be bumping into each other at Huntercombe and Rye.  Perhaps we should gang up with Sir Mayhugh for Italian in Rye on the Huntercombe Saturday.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Bill_McBride

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2009, 07:16:57 PM »
Forget about the weather.  Just pack enough gear to take two days of coldish rain in a row and one hot day (hot meaning 20C) every 3rd or 4th day and everything else should fall into place.  

Ciao

We are in full accord.

I'm hoping for good weather in Kent in September!

Ace

Weather?  I look forward to a fine pint purchased on my behalf by your goodself.  It is my understanding that we shall be bumping into each other at Huntercombe and Rye.  Perhaps we should gang up with Sir Mayhugh for Italian in Rye on the Huntercombe Saturday.

Ciao

Cucina Italiana would bellisimo.  One thing we are lacking in Pensacola is decent Italian.

What time are you playing at Huntercombe?  I need to touch base with Philip on final details.  We get into Gatwick around 8:30.

I'll will gladly stand you a pint if I eventually receive a nice single malt.  8)

Sean_A

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2009, 02:19:53 AM »
Forget about the weather.  Just pack enough gear to take two days of coldish rain in a row and one hot day (hot meaning 20C) every 3rd or 4th day and everything else should fall into place.  

Ciao

We are in full accord.

I'm hoping for good weather in Kent in September!

Ace

Weather?  I look forward to a fine pint purchased on my behalf by your goodself.  It is my understanding that we shall be bumping into each other at Huntercombe and Rye.  Perhaps we should gang up with Sir Mayhugh for Italian in Rye on the Huntercombe Saturday.

Ciao

Cucina Italiana would bellisimo.  One thing we are lacking in Pensacola is decent Italian.

What time are you playing at Huntercombe?  I need to touch base with Philip on final details.  We get into Gatwick around 8:30.

I'll will gladly stand you a pint if I eventually receive a nice single malt.  8)

Ace

Hmmm, borrowing dollars and paying back quarters is fine old scheme.

I am meant to be playing with you at Huntercombe around 3pm, but nothing is terribly settled at the moment.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2024: Nothing

Carl Johnson

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2009, 11:49:02 AM »
Personal experience from three visits to Scotland from the USA in the past 7 years, all during last week in May and first week in June, and all on the coasts.  First visit: Fife and up to Dornoch - cool but not cold weather, a little rain (and a little hail one day), only a little wind.  Second vist: Ayrshire - mostly clear, only one or two windy days, and 60F to 70F. Third visit: Fife and East Lothian - a real mix of clear, calm, moderate days, very cold, very windy days, and very rainy but not-too-cold days.  Advice: prepare for anything and everything.

Bill_McBride

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2009, 12:55:00 PM »
Forget about the weather.  Just pack enough gear to take two days of coldish rain in a row and one hot day (hot meaning 20C) every 3rd or 4th day and everything else should fall into place.  

Ciao

We are in full accord.

I'm hoping for good weather in Kent in September!

Ace

Weather?  I look forward to a fine pint purchased on my behalf by your goodself.  It is my understanding that we shall be bumping into each other at Huntercombe and Rye.  Perhaps we should gang up with Sir Mayhugh for Italian in Rye on the Huntercombe Saturday.

Ciao

Cucina Italiana would bellisimo.  One thing we are lacking in Pensacola is decent Italian.

What time are you playing at Huntercombe?  I need to touch base with Philip on final details.  We get into Gatwick around 8:30.

I'll will gladly stand you a pint if I eventually receive a nice single malt.  8)

Ace

Hmmm, borrowing dollars and paying back quarters is fine old scheme.

I am meant to be playing with you at Huntercombe around 3pm, but nothing is terribly settled at the moment.

Ciao

If we don't play until 3 p.m., what time will we get to Rye?

More importantly, will the kitchen still be open at the Italian ristorante?

David_Tepper

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2009, 11:05:29 PM »
Jim D. -

One other thing to be aware of is that you will be able to play golf well into the evening at that time of year. Depending upon how far north you are and whether you are there in mid-May or mid June, you may be able to play golf till 10:00pm. At the very least, even in southern Scotland in mid-May, you will likely be able to play till 9:00pm.

Even if you have a round rained out in the morning, chances are you will have plenty of time over the balance of the long daylight hours to get the round in.

DTl

Rich Goodale

Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2009, 03:06:28 AM »
Jim

When asking for a prediction of the weather in Scotland it is advisable to heed JP Morgan's advice when asked to predict the stock market, to wit:

"It will fluctuate."

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Weather in Scotland
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2009, 07:48:56 AM »
Rich

I love that ;D

Jim

David touched on a very important point about the length of daylight. Keep that in mind when trying to book courses. I found it tended to get "quiet" later in the afternoons for around of golf.










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