[Phil_the_Author]

Shucks Mike,

I thought you were going to award me a "No" prize...

[JESII]

Mike,

That's the first thing I thought of...but your solution deals with the 15th tee and 16th green and not, as Francis said, the 15th green and 16th tee. How do you reconcile that?


My second thought was that they simply thought they had enough room on the November Map until they got into the ground and realized they needed more...

[Mike Cirba]

Jim,

Francis was simply giving us a point of reference he recalled from what was needed for the width they required, and his fixed point of demarcation was the base of the triangle at the fixed point of the Haverford College Boundary Line.

If you woke up tomorrow...knowing not a thing about Merion...and saw the configuration of Golf House Road, I'm betting you'd think that someone had to extend it westward on the upper half and contract it inward on the bottom half to try and make up the difference.

The quarry is the wild card they faced that made all of their paper plans problematic.   You can't look at any aerial, map, or photo from back then or even today and deny that reality.

That's why the second Francis got the green light from Lloyd they had workmen out there blasting the top off the quarry to create a spot for their envisioned 16th green.

Once they knew they could fit that hole width-wise, they were golden.

[DMoriarty]

Lloyd's and MCC's control over land in 1910 and even 1909 has been greatly exaggerated by TEPaul and Wayne for years and years, and laughably so.  At one point they had Lloyd and MCC controlling all the land from the County border to Lloyd's Estate, and that was in 1909.  Surely some remember all of TEPaul's hysterical threads about how I just didnt understand great men like these and about how Lloyd could do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted with all the land? As usual, TEPaul has gone into backpedal and denial mode now that what he so long claimed as fact might work against him.   Facts are only facts for TEPaul when they serve his agenda.  Once they don't, he just changes them.

Isn't that right TEPaul?   Remember when you claimed (and rather obnoxiously so) that you and Wayne had a deed that proved beyond all doubt that Merion purchased the golf course property in the Summer of 1909?   And you refused to let anyone else to see it?   At one point when I asked you for details you said something typical like 'that is for us to know, Moriarty, and you to find out.'   Turned out you guys were either flat out lying or you were so clueless that the Merion expert and the supposed real estate wiz couldn't even figure out that the transaction didn't even involve Merion or anyone from Merion, and the land involved wasn't even part of the golf course!  

The reason I bring this up is as a reminder that this is the type of cooperation I consistently received from TEPaul and Wayne before my essay came out.  These guys consistently behaved like belligerent assholes when it came to anything Merion.  How often did Wayne scold us for challenging the party line?   Remember when Wayne called me and idiot and/or a liar and refused to discuss Merion with me ever again because I correctly pointed out to him that the 10th hole was substantially shorter than he thought?   That kind of thing is straight out of junior high school.   What should I have done sent a notarized letter to the club begging them to let me explain how they used to mis-measure their holes? Give me a break!

And then there were those nice messages that they used to send me, with the insults and threats.  TEPaul had some incredible doozies, too disgusting to repeat, but the one that summed up their level of cooperation was a two word message that Wayne sent me:  "Fuck You" it said.  More concise than TEPaul's rambling late-night diatribes, but the point was the same.

Yet now TEPaul claims I should have come to them before my essay came out?  The man is completely delusional.
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TEPAUL:

1.   You and Wayne knew nothing and I mean NOTHING that would have changed my essay one bit.  I challenge either one of you to come up with one single bit of relevant information that either of you had and understood before my essay came out, that would have changed anything relevant in my essay.  ANYTHING.  Because there is NOTHING.

2.   YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER OF MERION.  YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR MERION.   If MERION has an issue with me or my essay then they know how to contact me.  In the meantime I will not listen silently to your pathetic lectures about how much I needed you guys.  What a sad joke.  

YOU ARE NOT MEMBER AT MERION AND YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS TELLING ME HOW I SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT DEAL WITH THE CLUB.    

[DMoriarty]

Jim,

So far as I know, Lloyd had no stake in HDC until late in the year in 1910 at the earliest, and even then he and others don't appear to have taken a majority interest in the company.   That said, HDC appears to have been an extremely motivate seller, and if blasting some rock in a quarry was necessary to convince Merion that the land was useable for a golf course, then It seems reasonable that they would have done it.   The guy was a developer after all.

Tom keeps misrepresenting the timeline by suggesting that HDC did not offer the land until November 10th, but the July 1 Lesley report indicates that HDC had already offered 100 acres or what ever was necessary.   Plus, TEPaul has indicated in the past that the minutes indicate that Merion was already after the Dallas Estate beginning in summer 1910. (No surprise --he's tried to recant on this as well.)  HDC couldn't technically offer 117 acres that until they had it, but this seems to have been a technicality more than any real delay in understanding what land would be involved.  So plans and actions could have been well afoot by then.

[Jeff_Brauer]

"....the one that summed up their level of cooperation was a two word message that Wayne sent me:  "Fuck You" it said."

David,

I once got a memo like that.  But it added, "stronger memo to follow in morning." 

[DMoriarty]

David,

I once got a memo like that.  But it added, "stronger memo to follow in morning."  

Oh, there were plenty of stronger messages to follow, but that one was just so concise and so completely represents their attitude to those who dare challenge their mythology.   TEPaul could learn a thing or two from Wayne when it comes to getting their point across.

Wait a minute; that is a scary thought.  Imagine how long the Flynn Bible would be if TEPaul was doing the writing.

[TEPaul]

Jim:

I'm not sure how interested you are in the history of the inter-dealings of Lloyd and Connell and HDC and MCC, particularly before November 1910. It seems your real interest in it is to determine how much control Lloyd might've had over the inter-connected process at any particular time just to see if it seems logical to assume he might've given Francis permission to get quarrymen to begin the preliminary blasting to create #16 green before he owned the land or before HDC made a formal offer to MCC of a particular amount of land and existing accouterments (117 acres and farmhouse) for a particular price ($85,000) and on particular "terms" (I can include those if you like but it was essentially, and initially, a sale date (closing date) of Dec. 1, 1910 and the setting up of a corporation by MCC to receive the land and build a golf course). If you want to know more than that, such as the way real estate transactions worked back then compared to today I'd be glad to help you.

I feel all the available information of this time and event and the people involved with it is very much a story worth telling for Merion or by Merion. It's a story that has never been told in detail by Merion but I've proposed to the club's historians that it should be done. I think they agree. I feel that way because it seems that Horatio Gates Lloyd just might be the biggest Uber-Angel to any golf club I have ever heard of, certainly considering the beautiful residential area that very much went with it, whose contributions are not well enough known. Maybe that's just the way he wanted it. If so it wouldn't be that unusual for a man like that back then in his position in the world of business and otherwise. In Merion's history books Lloyd is mentioned but not much more than a man who served on various committees and on the board and such over some years. He was certainly a lot more than that to Merion.

If anyone has any good and interesting information that the club does not have and would like to assist and collaborate in this we would love to do it with you. Merion is very proud of its history and recently due to the really good efforts of its long time historian along with more recent member, Wayne Morrison, their archive facility is about as impressive as any golf club has. You know where to find me, and if you want to be in touch with Wayne, you can do that on here through me, and you know where Merion is.

Let's turn over a new leaf on this website on the subject of Merion's history, and the histories of other significance clubs/courses like it. If you have anything on it; material, analysis, anything, that you think is interesting and important please be in touch and let's all work together on it somehow. It would be good for Merion (and clubs like it) and it would also be good for GOLFCLUBATLAS.com!

[Mike Cirba]

Jim,

Did you ever wonder why they didn't locate the 14th green along the quarry?  It certainly would have made for a dramatic and scary approach.

Although my drawing is crude, and I've probably got it a little close for comfort, it would have been very easy for them to get those last holes in that available width if not for the design decision to provide an alternate fairway route around the quarry.  

You'll notice that all the land I've saved...coincidentally is the land that bulges out of the difference between today's course and that November 1910 Land Plan.

Interestingly, we saw a very similar thing when Wilson and his friends designed Cobb's Creek.  On their original proposed map they had located the 6th hole very close to a steep dropoff that ran from the fairway landing area all the way up to the green.   Along that hole to the left were three holes that ran perpendicular to the 6th, being the original 8th, 9th, and 11th.   On the original map they were roughly estimated to be 420, 430, and 570, respectively.

When built those holes were only 387, 400, and 513.   What happened?

Well, it wasn't until we later superimposed an "as built" over the original topo map that we determined that the 6th actually had to get moved further left than drawn.   Perhaps the ground over there was too sloped and there wasn't enough room to keep balls in play...perhaps they ran into some issues with tree removal, as they had to work around existing trees.

Whatever the reason, they had to make a decision in the field that led to them moving the entire 16th fairway and green left of what they originally proposed, and that had unintended consequences for adjoining holes.   In the case of Cobb's Creek, they were working with a fixed acreage, so they couldn't do anything but shorten those holes.

I think something very similar is what happened here.  Design decisions, probably once out and dealing with the reality of what was on the ground and not on paper forced them around the quarry, which then forced other holes to be taken out wider than was originally anticipated/planned, which then required adjustments of land between golf and real estate, as well as the addition of 3 acres.   Cobb's Creek didn't have the option to expand their acreage, but Merion...through Lloyd, did.  

One last point from the dead horse.   The MCC minutes speak of swappoing land for other land "adjoining".   I'm not sure I'd refer to the triangle in that way, would you?





Conversely, if one is to take Francis as meaning they only added the triangle of land in the swap, you have to believe that Merion located their first 13 holes, including using up one par three on the back nine across from the clubhouse, and then were going to try and fit their last five finishing holes in this acreage.    That to me indicates that they'd have to be insane, as well as purposefully ignoring CBM's good advice in June 1910 that much could be made of the quarry.

[JESII]

What are th chances it was both...in other words, the April Board minutes did not reflect exactly what Francis said, but did reflect the re-shaping of GHR.

[Mike Cirba]

Jim,

Here's where I reach my threshold of disbelief.

Consider the following chain of events.

June 1910 - Connell of HDC has Barker down to draw up a sketch plan on some unknown portions of the 140 acres of Johnson Farm for a golf course and offers Merion "100 acres, or whatever will be needed" for the golf course.

June 1910 - Shortly thereafter, possibly because he's in town for a big tourney going on in Philly at the time, Rodman Griscom has CBM come over to view the property asking if a first-class golf course could be created there.

Macdonald responds in a letter of 6/29/1910 in which he somewhat guardedly says they can get a first-class course there, recommends they stay around 6,000 yards in length, gives them some sources for further agronomic advice on inland soils, recommends they try to get some "additional land near the clubhouse", which is almost certainly the railroad land, and says, "much can be made" of the creek and quarry.

Based on Macdonald's visit, and discussions with HDC, the Merion Site Committee tells the board that they will likely need about "120 acres."

So, at this time, Merion knew they needed about 120 acres with the vast majority of it coming from the 140 acres of Johnson Farm, and HDC was similarly motivated to let Merion pick out as much of it as they needed, as the longer a stretch they used for the golf course, the more golf-course adjoining homesites they could build.   They may have also discussed the Dallas Estate at this time, which HDC almost certainly had their eyes on by then but we don't know that for certain.


So, at this stage of the negotiations, can anyone possibly imagine Connell going to Merion and saying;

"Ahem...err...Mr. Lloyd.   I've spoken to the other members of our HDC Board and here's what we're offering.   You can have any land of the Johnson Farm for your golf course, which we all estimate now to be at somewhere around 120 acres...um...except for that land north of Haverford College's southern boundary."

"Well, Mr. Connell, I think we may have a problem here, sir.   You see, we just had the most famous man in American golf out to view your property and he thought that building some golf holes utilizing that old quarry as a hazard would be jolly good and a whale of a challenge.   So, I can't see why in heavens we would only buy land going north about a wedge shot beyond that quarry as that would possibly be the most short-sighted decision in golf architectural history, not to mention pretty crazy of us.   Why, what you're proposing would land-lock us at our northern border, and how would our members get their motor cars up to Wynnewood without going through someone's front yard?

"Hmm...well, that's the deal Mr. Lloyd.   Take it or leave it.   I think you'll find that if you work really hard on it you can possibly get 5 closing holes in that 30 acres of property I'm leaving you with north of the clubhouse.   I'd say you should get yourself a surveyor...perhaps that Mr. Francis fellow...didn't you say he knew his way around a map?...and get cracking."


Jim...I don't think that HDC provided Merion with any restrictions along that western border, other than a general agreement that the course would have a total acreage of around 120 at a fixed price, a curving road (which ALL HDC roads were) containing the golf and acting as the property line, and it would have been in their real estate interests to continue that golf course north as far as the Merion club was wanting to go.  

I see absolutely no reason in the world that HDC would have constrained Merion with an artificial northern boundary, nor any reason Merion would be so short-sighted as to accept one.

[TEPaul]

"What are th chances it was both...in other words, the April Board minutes did not reflect exactly what Francis said, but did reflect the re-shaping of GHR."


Sully:

To me that is a very real possibility. Matter of fact, I've thought that as long as I've been considering this Francis fix----eg about as long as this subject has been discussed on this website. It's in another long thread about this Francis idea and fix that I started around May 2009 that is in the back pages. I can't remember what I titled the thread but the title did have Richard Francis' name in it and his "fix" idea he took to Lloyd in the middle of the night.

In that thread it was me who came up with the idea that the Francis' fix, or the end result of it, involved the reshaping of Golf House Road from College Ave. to Ardmore Ave. I'm not very good at searching for old threads but if someone can find it I will show you when I first said that and why. I was driving over to Merion; I took Golf House Road off of College and when I turned pretty hard right at the 16th tee it suddenly hit me that the configuration and curvatures up there was nothing like the way that road was drawn on the November 1910 Land Plan.

When I got home I looked at the configuration and curvatures up and down that road and I realized how different they were on that Nov. 1910 Land Plan from how they got built and how they show up on an aerial.

I haven't looked at that really long thread I started over a year ago on this subject for a very long time but if someone found it I bet they will find that my idea about Golf House Road from that Nov. 15, 1910 Land Plan being entirely reshaped from College to Ardmore Aves was essentially the sum and substance of Francis' idea and his fix got completely shot down and pooh-poohed by at least Moriarty.

I think he realized full well back then and certainly realizes it today, that if it was concluded that Francis's idea did not create an entire triangle up there in a rectangular block of land not considered for golf before Nov 10, 1910 instead of more likely up to six months later, that one of the most essential premises of his entire essay would go down the drain and probably take the logic of his entire essay with it that someone other than Wilson and his full committee (he concluded C.B. Macdonald and MacWood seemed to conclude HH Barker) routed and designed Merion East!  

[TEPaul]

"June 1910 - Shortly thereafter, possibly because he's in town for a big tourney going on in Philly at the time, Rodman Griscom has CBM come over to view the property asking if a first-class golf course could be created there."


That's a fact. The US Open was going on in Philadelphia in the second half of June, 1910. I think it was actually at HVGC, Sully. Macdonald was one of the USGA's (and R&A) primary Rules Committee guys. It would be odd if he wasn't here for that. If USGA board and primary USGA committee members are not at the US Open they probably wouldn't be on the USGA's Board or their primary committees, like Rules, very long.

And I believe Barker played in that US Open. Tillie did and I think it was the best finish he ever had in a US Open.

[Mike Cirba]

Jim,

I also think the "nearly 120 acres" Merion's Site Committee told the Board they thought they needed in July 1910 was all Johnson Farmland, and I believe that's the land considered for golf by first Barker, and then Macdonald.  

As David said, that's all the land they owned at that time, although they had options on large adjoining properties and were certainly positioned to act on those if the Merion deal went through.

The Johnson Farm was just over 140 acres.   The Johnson land starting just north of Ardmore Avenue that continues along the street across from the 2nd hole culminating in a larger rectangle further along there was probably tossed immediately as unusable for golf.

Bryan had that land measured as such;

Area RE:       21.1 acres        the real estate part of the Johnson Farm, north of Ardmore, West of GHR

[TEPaul]

"The Johnson land starting just north of Ardmore Avenue that continues along the street across from the 2nd hole culminating in a larger rectangle further along there was probably tossed immediately as unusable for golf.

Bryan had that land measured as such;

Area RE:       21.1 acres        the real estate part of the Johnson Farm, north of Ardmore, West of GHR."


That little rectangle of the Johnson Farm (app. where the 2nd green and surrounds is today), probably would've looked somewhat unusable to a golf architect simply because it looks impossible to get a hole into and another one out of with the Dallas Estate next to it. But once the Dallas Estate comes into consideration for golf holes then that little rectangle very much comes into consideration as it obviously did do.

The best way to see it back then and understand what I mean is to look at it on the first depiction (1908 Pennsylvania RR map) that is the first depiction in Mike Cirba's Post #520 on this thread.

[Mike Cirba]

"The Johnson land starting just north of Ardmore Avenue that continues along the street across from the 2nd hole culminating in a larger rectangle further along there was probably tossed immediately as unusable for golf.

Bryan had that land measured as such;

Area RE:       21.1 acres        the real estate part of the Johnson Farm, north of Ardmore, West of GHR."


That little rectangle of the Johnson Farm (app. where the 2nd green and surrounds is today), probably would've looked somewhat unusable to a golf architect simply because it looks impossible to get a hole into and another one out of with the Dallas Estate next to it. But once the Dallas Estate comes into consideration for golf holes then that little rectangle very much comes into consideration as it obviously did do.

The best way to see it back then and understand what I mean is to look at it on the first depiction (1908 Pennsylvania RR map) that is the first depiction in Mike Cirba's Post #520 on this thread.

Tom,

I'm referring to that Johnson Farm  land NORTH of Ardmore Avenue that is clearly unusable for golf.

In total, Bryan measured it at about 21 acres.

What I'm saying is I think Merion first was considering all of the Johnson Farm ONLY, except for that narrow land north of Ardmore Ave. which was clearly unusable for golf.

[TEPaul]

I know that's what you're considering but what I'm saying is if you took that out (21.1) above Ardmore Ave, and you took out that block at the top of the "L" (app. 10.7 acres) and that small block where the 2nd green and surrounds is today because the Dallas Estate (if not being considered at the time) makes it too small to get a hole into and another one out of (I make that little triangle to be about 550 feet long and and average of about 245 feet wide (about 3.1 acres)) then you would be down to about 105 acres of the Johnson Farm for consideration for golf holes or an 18 hole golf course.

But if you think they were considering all of the Johnson Farm other than that 21.1 acres north of Ardmore Ave. and also if they were not considering the Dallas Estate at the time (June, July 1910) which is ironically also 21 acres then they would've been considering right around 120 acres--a tad less actually.

The 100 acres is pretty tight and apparently MCC's guys recognized that at least for the length of a course they were looking for which was 300-400 yards longer than Macdonald recommended for them in his letter of June 1910.

If Connell let Barker only look at 100 acres he obviously took out the rectangle at the top of the "L" too and that little rectangle where the 2nd green is but even with that it gets to 105.1

[JESII]

How is it possible that they would not have been considering the Dallas Estate when it was the first piece of property they actually bought?

Also, you have both used the golf course frontage case these last couple of days without realizing that this could not have been their first priority...maybe on the lost, but not at the top or else they wouldn't have confined the golf course to the corner of the property...they would have let it run up and through...

[TEPaul]

"How is it possible that they would not have been considering the Dallas Estate when it was the first piece of property they actually bought?"


Sully:

Actually, it seems to be documented that the Dallas Estate was the last piece of property to fall into HDC's control of the total of 338.6 acres that the initial formal offer on Nov. 10, 1910 of HDC to MCC reflected.
 

I would not at this time want to testify to the accuracy of this research, assumption or conclusion but the following is from the essay, "The Missing Faces of Merion."




"Haverford Development Company Acquires 21 Acre “Dallas Estate”
While Merion’s requirement of the two additional parcels may have delayed the purchase, the development company acted quickly to resolve any apparent impasse. On August 14, 1910, the Inquirer reported the pending sale of the “Dallas Estate,” a 21 acre parcel bordering the southwest corner of Haverford Development Company’ holdings. On November 4, 1910, the Inquirer reported that sale of the Dallas Estate had settled for $25,000, and that the purchaser, Mr. James Freeman, would build a large house on the estate.

But despite the reports about Mr. Freeman and his supposed plans for a house, ownership of the Dallas Estate immediately passed to Haverford Development Company. In fact, within 11 days of the November article reporting Mr. Freeman’s supposed purchase, the development company had not only secured the Dallas Estate, they had also sold an option on the parcel to Merion Cricket Club. Given this quick turnaround, Mr. Freeman (if he existed) may have been acting clandestinely on behalf of the development company, which was perhaps hoping to avoid having to pay an extortionate sum for land crucial to their deal with Merion."






I think I may've just come across another item I do not remember seeing before or do not remember seeing discussed on here before that may reflect something perhaps important in this whole story but I'd like to really consider it first and what it may mean to this question of Francis and his fix or story before posting it.

[TEPaul]

"Also, you have both used the golf course frontage case these last couple of days without realizing that this could not have been their first priority...maybe on the lost, but not at the top or else they wouldn't have confined the golf course to the corner of the property...they would have let it run up and through..."



Jim:

I'm afraid I don't understand that or what you're trying to say.

[Mike Cirba]

Jim,

I would agree with Tom that I'm not sure what you're trying to get at there.

Also, that the Dallas Estate was the very last piece of land they purchased, and was neither purchased nor optioned by HDC as of July 1910.

I would also concur with David's essay on these points, as I have both articles related to the purported purpose of the purchase in question courtesy of Joe Bausch.  

You can see even at this late date of November 1910 that HDC still only owned outright the 140 acres of the Johnson Farm.

They had optioned other adjoining properties for a total of over 300 acres, but didn't exercise on those until the Merion deal was solidified.






Who was Freeman?

Seems like the classic middle-man.

[Mike Cirba]

It wasn't long before HDC exercised options on the remaining 3 other parcels of property, which are all shown enclosed as HDC Land on this November 15, 1910 Land Plan.

In thinking about it, I wonder who commissioned Pugh & Hubbard, and believe it was most likely HDC.

From their perspective, they would want Merion to build golf course land all along the perimeters of their real estate holdings, wouldn't they?

Is that the reason we see the golf course continuing to the far north of the Johnson Farm land, even to the point where it's obviously too narrow for golf holes where the "Approximate Location of Road" is drawn?  

Wouldn't this simply indicate that besides the 117 "secured" acres that were agreed to at this time, there were no other HDC constraints to Merion for where to place their golf course on the Johnson Farm land and the more that adjoined HDC Real Estate lots the better?

[TEPaul]

Oh MY GOD!

Mike:

You asked who James Freeman is or was? It never occured to me before because I just never thought to make the connection but he owned the famous Philadelphia auctioneering company----eg Freeman's. I knew it was really old and it's still around and still very prominent in Philly. Today they basically deal in some pretty top-line antiques, particularly furniture.

Obviously, HDC and Connell and MCC and Lloyd and the Boys just got Freeman himself to buy the place perhaps even at his own company's auction since I believe the Dallas Estate may've been in probate at the time and probably not lived in and was probably going up for sale anyway.

The old farmhouse and barn that you can actually see on the old RR maps were probably really run down in 1910 as obviously Hugh and his committee had the old farmhouse torn down and they actually put the famous third green right at the top level of one of those common old Pennsylvania "Bank" barns. The barn part of my Barn/Office I'm typing in right now is one of those old Pennsylvania "bank" barns.

For Freeman to tell the newspaper's he was buying it to put his own house and estate on it sure does seems to indicate HDC and MCC were into a pretty general and complete ruse out there about what they were really all up to.

In my opinion, that they would get Freeman, an auctioneer, to do something like that so late in the year---it looks like he settled on the Dallas Estate in the first week of November 1910----seems to indicate HDC and MCC were being very quiet about all this until the last piece of the jig-saw fell into place---eg The Dallas Estate.

Within the week of settling on it he flipped it to HDC and at that point it looks like Connell (HDC) and Lloyd (MCC) were finally ready to roll and the initial offer was made by HDC to MCC in less than a week.

[TEPaul]

"In thinking about it, I wonder who commissioned Pugh & Hubbard, and believe it was most likely HDC."

I've seen it happen that a prospective buyer has a survey done or is even asked to by a seller but it is very rare. In almost all cases the prospective seller gets a survey done simply to make marketing of property more attractive for any buyer (it was never exactly cheap to do because it takes a lot of time on site as all the metes and bounds have to be shot and walked and calculated again and particularly if a mortgage is involved. It would be a very unmotivated seller to ask a prospective buyer to get a survey done for a property he was about to sell him.

[Mike Cirba]

Tom,

I think that would help explain a number of things.

If you think about that map as being commissioned by Merion, that would possibly imply a routed golf course taking up the exact spaces they already determined, or at least one might reasonably infer that.

If you think about that map as being commissioned by HDC, they are simply showing the areas where Merion is going to build their golf course after the club had secured 117 acres, and on the only border in question the western edge of the original Johnson Farm north of Ardmore Avenue, they simply showed an "Approximate Road" as the boundary, hopeful and optimistic I'm sure that the club would create a plethora of golf-facing lots along the entire length of it.

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