[Sam Maryland]

At my club in Houston the tee markers are all the same in appearance.  They are not colored or marked in any way.

Bingo.

Charlotte CC has the same, but they engrave a little 'B' or 'F' or 'M' on the top of the marker to designate the tee in question.  All the tee's are black, about the size of a pool ball.

[C. Squier]

about the only worse thing than playing tees that are too long for one's game is playing a set because one always plays that color tees

some people are unbelievable............

We added about 600 yards to our course and the folks used to playing the old back tees went straight to them.  I guess they figured it didn't matter.  We also have a 6750 hybrid tee which is where they moved to next after several miserable rounds.  Now most of them are safely on the blue tees at 6400 where they are having a much better time!!

Wait a second......why did you ever build new back tees in the first place?  If the group of guys who played the tips from the old tees couldn't play the new ones, that means they were a waste of time/money.  Right?  Or was it just scorecard fodder?

[Damon Groves]

I like tee markers that are associated with the area or history of the course. At Wild Horse in Nebraska the tee markers are horse shoes and the 150 yard markers are cow skulls. At Black Gold in Yorba Linda CA the tee markers are oil drill bits. If there is nothing that works then the simple wood log with color on the ends. As for color for each set of tees... who cares. Is it that important.

I also like Ballyneals attitude. No markers. Just play.

[Sean_A]

I have always liked the idea of no tees and various sets of plates.  However, this wouldn't work well for publics with the trend of loads of teeing areas.  Golfers would just wander about stupidly rather than just selecting a spot and hitting.  So for publics, I would like to see one set of tees with various sets of plates.  The idea is to encourage the full use of the teeing areas.  Perhaps it could work on publics and folks would just get used to it after a spell, but I am a bit skeptical.  I know folks are going to cry about handicap/competition stuff.  Its simple, for medal/stableford comps put out a set of tees - there should be no handicap purposes for golf unless its a comp.  Of course, matchplay comps don't need tees.

As for the colour of the tees - I wouldn't use tees.  I have always been partial to the old fashioned square box on legs which was a rubbish bin and bag holder sitting opposite one of the plates.   

Ciao

[Roger Wolfe]

about the only worse thing than playing tees that are too long for one's game is playing a set because one always plays that color tees

some people are unbelievable............

We added about 600 yards to our course and the folks used to playing the old back tees went straight to them.  I guess they figured it didn't matter.  We also have a 6750 hybrid tee which is where they moved to next after several miserable rounds.  Now most of them are safely on the blue tees at 6400 where they are having a much better time!!

Wait a second......why did you ever build new back tees in the first place?  If the group of guys who played the tips from the old tees couldn't play the new ones, that means they were a waste of time/money.  Right?  Or was it just scorecard fodder?

We redid the whole course and the best use of the old layout and new land (part of the old course was used for a practice facility) wound up at 7000 yards.  Two new holes plus moving several greens away from property lines and out of poor agronomic environments resulted in the extra yardage.

We have a lot of young and old scratch golfers who use the back tees just fine.  The existing members, so used to playing a 6300 "back" tee, were obsessed with still playing the BACK tees regardless of yardage.  It used to be a pitch and putt with the 4,500 sq ft greens its only defense.  Now the average green size is 6,000 sq ft (back to Ross's original specs), there are 40 new bunkers (most per Ross's specs) and its harder for low hdcps and easier for high hdcps assuming each player uses the right tee.

We didn't just bulldoze into the tree line to build new tees.  Please spare me the "yardage martyr" argument.

[Adrian_Stiff]

We have 4 sets of tees; red which are ladies only, yellow which are mostly used and are at say 6000 yards, the whites at 6600 yards and blacks at 7050 yards, there is a 7200 yard course but there are no markers. hardly anyone uses the blacks, although except at par 3 holes you can play off where you like and there are some that mix and match the blacks and whites. Some of the better ladies play off yellows or whites.

[David Schofield]

Getting too cute with the markers, particularly if objects rather than colors are used, just leads to confusion.  Likewise, colors that are too close (i.e. gold and yellow, dark blue and black) can be confusing as well.

[Dan Herrmann]

Being French Creek, our tees are red/white/blue.  Ran out of colors and we use gold for the longest tees.

We have really nice billiard-ball style markers that have a stake.  They have a beautiful classic look.

(We also have several composite courses that are rated  -  white/blue, blue/gold (men) and red/white (ladies).  We even have simple scorecards printed that show what color to play on what hole.  Works great and adds a lot of variety.  These composite courses are loaded to GHIN.

[Greg Chambers]

Forget the tee marker colors, tee markers are stupid.  Put a plaque on each tee with the yardage and let people decide on their own where they would like to play from.  And once the tee markers are gone, we can work on getting rid of the stupid bunker rakes.

[C. Squier]

We redid the whole course and the best use of the old layout and new land (part of the old course was used for a practice facility) wound up at 7000 yards.  Two new holes plus moving several greens away from property lines and out of poor agronomic environments resulted in the extra yardage.

We have a lot of young and old scratch golfers who use the back tees just fine.  The existing members, so used to playing a 6300 "back" tee, were obsessed with still playing the BACK tees regardless of yardage.  It used to be a pitch and putt with the 4,500 sq ft greens its only defense.  Now the average green size is 6,000 sq ft (back to Ross's original specs), there are 40 new bunkers (most per Ross's specs) and its harder for low hdcps and easier for high hdcps assuming each player uses the right tee.

We didn't just bulldoze into the tree line to build new tees.  Please spare me the "yardage martyr" argument.

We added about 600 yards to our course and the folks used to playing the old back tees went straight to them.


The way you phrased your statement made it sound like everyone who played the new back tees moved up to the "old" back tees.  I could care less how long the course is, or what tees are out as long as they're actually being used by somebody.  Tees as yardage trophies are a waste of money, IMO. 

[rchesnut]

We had a big debate about it at our club when we revamped the course look last year.  The one thing we did was get rid of Red as a tee color, it's associated with "Ladies Tees" too closely, at least in the states, and we want Juniors, Seniors and less experienced golfers to be comfortable playing the forward tees.  It was a good move for us. 

[Dan Herrmann]

Forget the tee marker colors, tee markers are stupid.  Put a plaque on each tee with the yardage and let people decide on their own where they would like to play from.  And once the tee markers are gone, we can work on getting rid of the stupid bunker rakes.

Huh?
The Rules require a defined teeing area.

And only a course like Pine Valley built on sand could get away with no bunkers.  Keep in mind that even a course like PV uses a mechanical raking machine from time to time.

[Greg Tallman]

You could go with a colorless scheme, devoid of any connotations, a la Tobacco Road.

WW

How do you reference them when entering scores for handicap purposes? Hence the proposed numbering system I assume.

Why not name them after something relevant to the resort and/or region that does not indicate gender, age, playing ability... etc.
7100 - Rockefeller Tees
6600 - Carambola Tees
6200 - Carribean Tees
5600 - Island Tees
4600 - Buccaneer Tees 

That is enough bad ideas for this post... best of luck.

You had me till the Bucc tees...Actually it's not as bad an idea as you think.  Alot of times, especially at resort courses, the teesets will be named like you mention. 

One of our members suggested pastel colored tees to go with the tropical 'ting",, while an employee who will remain nameless suggested Rasta colors...

David,

The Buccaneer reference was obviously a cheap shot at the "executive course" on the otherside of the island. I do have some resort operating experience and self depricating comments aside I would likely go with a Rockefeller themed tee naming assuming the resort still embraces its founding family. Just don't include our esteemed Senator Jay D. in the naming process... little known fact that the Rockefellers are a West Virginia family. 

By the way did you succeed Roger Mack at the resort or do you have a different/higher position than he held? You ever run into a piano player on the island by the name of John Melnick? Very talented guy, think he has a bar on the north shore. 

[David Heiser]

Greg- 

You can cheapshot the Bucc anytime you want,  It is what it is.  I do like your idea to use history in naming the new tee sets, on that account maybe we should have the Chi Chi tees as well...

I was brought in by the new ownership as a consultant to create a master restoration plan and oversee the start up of the process.  During that time I was offered a permanent position on the board as the consultant to the executive committee.  My plans were to travel back and forth 4- 6 times a year to oversee the implementation process.  During that time the board decided not to renew the contract of the sitting GM, and asked if I would assume the position in addition to my consultation position.  The timing was right as at the time we were entertaining offers on the sale of our golf course in NY anyway.  So, 2 years later, here I am. 

And yes, I do know John Melnick quite well.  He no longer lives on island but visits from time to time.   I played with him during the Beacon celeb event in St thomas last year.  He is a good friend of one of our members, Frank Duggan, of Duggans Reef out east. 

I think John is marketing an idea for golf called "the golf diary", a personal scoring system.

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