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mark chalfant

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Galloway Natl hosting NCAA East Regional
« on: March 26, 2009, 01:45:49 AM »
The 2009 NCAA regional golf championships will take place here in mid May. David Elkins, Mike Sweeney , and many others have spoken highly of this design near Atlantic  City, NJ.   I' m hoping to watch play one of the three days.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Galloway National hosting the NCAA
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 09:25:04 AM »
Just curious:  why would they hold the NCAA championships at a course not affiliated with a college (as far as I know)?  Can any course apply to host the NCAA's, or is this an inside deal because somebody knows somebody?

rjsimper

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Re: Galloway National hosting the NCAA
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 09:28:35 AM »
Just played Galloway on Saturday.  Love this course.  In the last year they've added some length, too.  Most notably, a new back tee on 18 makes that hole a terror.

BTW, this is not the NCAA Championships...It's the NCAA East Regional Championships....the cigarillo, not the big cigar.

mark chalfant

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Re: Galloway Natl hosting NCAA East Regional
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 12:22:13 PM »
Ryan,

Thanks for clarifying my goof up.  I'm curious as to what par fours and par fives you found most interesting to play.  Are the green complexes well designed here ......small or large...  with bold contours ?

thanks

rjsimper

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Re: Galloway Natl hosting NCAA East Regional
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 12:30:30 PM »
I think the greens are some of Fazio's best...bold contours for sure.  The complexes at 1, 6, 10, and 12 are particularly excellent. 

6 is an interesting par 5 with a semi-blind tee shot and no bargain of a sand wedge given the green.  16 is also a cool par 5 begging you to challenge the lake and giving the long hitter a shot at getting home in two.  The par 4s are quite strong, with holes like 1, 4, 10, and 12 being real standouts.  At 475 yards, I love the par 4 10th hole with the bowled entry to the bunkerless green.
 
By modern standards, greens are average to large, and mostly appropriate for the hole it's on.  2 plays small, but its a sub 150 yard par 3.  The 10th and 17th greens are large, but both of those you're likely hitting a fairway wood or long iron to.

If you search the board the only criticism that seems to be common is the quirky routing.  One thing I noticed which made things tough this last time, and I hadn't noticed before, is that most of the non-par 3 holes are oriented with a cross-wind.  Hitting drivers and 3ws all day accounting for a 20 yard push or pull on your ball can get challenging.



Pete Stankevich

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Re: Galloway Natl hosting NCAA East Regional
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 11:06:39 PM »
I'm the Men's Golf Coach for the University of Hartford and I brought my team down to Galloway National last fall for the East Regional Preview tournament.  Columbia University hosted the tournament as a way for teams to get a feel for the golf course in the event they qualify for the NCAA East Regionals in the spring.
Here is the link to the results:
http://golfstat.com/2008-2009/men/mtourfl08/M3212.htm
The tournament field had some very strong teams, some ranked in the top 30, but as you can see from the scores, the course was the winner here.
The weather was in the 60's and sunny with 15-20 mph winds, occasionally gusting higher. 
The par 3's were a huge factor in the high scores.
The par 3 2nd was playing incredibly tough with gusts of wind in different directions.  Players hit anywhere from 9 iron to 6 iron and very few hit this green in regulation over 3 days.  75 percent of the balls ended up in the collection area to the left.
#5 played much longer but was equally as tough and at best, I would say only a third of the players found the putting surface.
#8 was anywhere from a 6 iron to 3 iron, but played much easier than the other 2 on the front, probably because it's a much bigger target and further inland away from the wind on the water.
The par 5 11th was probably the only hole that played easy during the tournament.
#14 played to a 4 or 5 iron usually and although there weren't many birdies, it did not play too difficult.
#17 was playing incredibly tough at about 230 yards and most of the guys were hitting anywhere from 3 iron to 3 wood.  Play slowed down quite a bit on this hole because there were always 1 or 2 guys looking for their ball in the right trees. 
It was definitely a grind out there for the guys, but for the teams that qualify for the East Regional, they definitely got a preview of how tough it can play.  That was the point of having the tournament in October and I'm sure the teams like TCU and Florida who were at that event will benefit in May.




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