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Michael Blake

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Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« on: February 11, 2009, 10:24:23 AM »
Happened to catch this show last night @ 9pm.
It's on again today @ 2:30 eastern.

I don't want to spoil anything because I know everyone is so looking foward to watching to see what ocean courses make the GC rankings.  :D

But it was interesting to note a segment they did of courses that didn't quite crack their top 10, and ended up on 'the cutting room floor.'  One of those courses hasn't even been built yet:

Tiger Woods' Punta Brava. 


little spoiler:  I know that 'the ocean' helped to create TOC, but I never really considered it 'an ocean course.'

PCCraig

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 10:39:31 AM »
I saw this as well. You have to dismiss something that calls Old Head the 9th best Ocean Course in the world "because of the 300ft cliffs are awesome."
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Anthony Gray

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 10:40:55 AM »


  I saw this last night. I would not consider TOC an ocean course.

 Anthony


Mark Pearce

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 11:16:40 AM »


  I saw this last night. I would not consider TOC an ocean course.

 Anthony


Not least because the body of water to the east of the UK is the North Sea, not an ocean at all.
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John Moore II

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 12:28:09 PM »
So, whats the list for those of us not fortunate to see the program? I mean, I would have to think that Pebble, Cypress, Ocean Course, and Pac Dunes from USA are on there, to be sure. But any more than that I don't have much of an idea. List please (since it doesn't look to show again this week).

PCCraig

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 12:31:05 PM »
I think it was something like Balllybunion, Turnbury, Old Head, Dornoch, Kiawah, Pebble, Cypress, Bandon, TOC, and something else I'm forgetting.

Tiger's course and a couple others in Mexico were runner's up.
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Anthony Gray

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 12:34:06 PM »
So, whats the list for those of us not fortunate to see the program? I mean, I would have to think that Pebble, Cypress, Ocean Course, and Pac Dunes from USA are on there, to be sure. But any more than that I don't have much of an idea. List please (since it doesn't look to show again this week).

  John,

 I taped it but cannot remember them all.

  Bandon/Pacific Dunes considered as one.
  PB
  Royal Dornach
  Cypress Point
  TOC
  Ballybunion
  Old Head
  Kiawah
  Tralee
  Turnbury

  Anthony

 

Mike Benham

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 12:36:44 PM »

Not least because the body of water to the east of the UK is the North Sea, not an ocean at all.



So you will disallow Pebble Beach because it fronts Carmel Bay / Cold Water Cove ?
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Anthony Gray

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 12:37:17 PM »

  There has been a saying "PB has 8 holes around the ocean Casa De Campo (Teeth) has 8 holes in the ocean".

  Anthony


Greg Chambers

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 12:37:54 PM »
Figures they'd put Tiger's course in there, since it is the Tiger Woods Channel.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 12:43:24 PM »
Sufficeth to say.......if Trump National and Pelican Hill don't make it, we'll know the game is rigged.

P.S.  If TOC is to be included, shouldn't NGLA also be up for consideration as well?

Andrew Mitchell

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 01:12:38 PM »

Not least because the body of water to the east of the UK is the North Sea, not an ocean at all.



So you will disallow Pebble Beach because it fronts Carmel Bay / Cold Water Cove ?

Depends on your/The Golf Channel's definition of "Ocean".  TOC and Dornoch are on the North Sea coast, Turnberry the Irish Sea.  On this side of the pond only the Irish courses sit next to an Ocean  ;D
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JMorgan

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 01:20:01 PM »
I wonder where they'd rank Cabo del Sol or Teeth of the Dog.

Anthony Gray

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 01:29:03 PM »


  Whistling Straits should be considered. It is water as far as you can see and from 16 holes. Not an ocean but might as well be. Cape Kidnappers?

  Anthony


Paul Carey

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 01:31:11 PM »
No Mid Ocean?  It should be on the list.

Jfaspen

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 02:21:16 PM »
No Mid-Ocean, No Cape Kidnappers, Cabo Del Sol was relugated to a "cutting room floor" piece.  Cypress Point was #6, Old Head was #9.
Pebble was #1, St. Andrews was #2.

George Pazin

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 02:21:34 PM »
Going from memory (which gets worse every day):

10. Dornoch
9. Old Head
8. Ballybunion
7. Tralee
6. Cypress Point
5. The Ocean Course
4. Pac Dunes
3. The Old Course
2. Turnberry
1. Pebble

Gotta hand it to them, it's a unique list.
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Sean Leary

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 02:23:48 PM »
Bandon Dunes Golf Complex was one course. What a joke.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2009, 02:52:51 PM »
That's entirely predictable ... they didn't want to give Bandon two slots out of ten, and they didn't want to choose.

I thought it was the Arnold Palmer Channel ... which would explain #1 and #7.

George Pazin

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2009, 03:54:47 PM »
Doesn't everybody rank Tralee ahead of Dornoch and Ballybunion?
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John Moore II

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2009, 04:24:01 PM »
5 courses ranked ahead of Cypress?? Say it ain't so.

Mitchell Schneringer

Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2009, 05:07:58 PM »
TGC is the Palmer channel...in which Tiger is the leading star.  He deserves the attention, and TGC does a fine job of staying in his good graces. 

Politics aside, he is the greatest golfer ever.

David Stamm

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2009, 05:17:46 PM »

Politics aside, he is the greatest golfer ever.


In your opinion. Not to pick on you, Mitchell, but it's impossible to make this assumption. He is certianly the greatest of his era and one of the very best of all time, but unless one can say they've "see 'em all", it's conjecture.
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Kyle Henderson

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2009, 05:23:30 PM »
Which ones are agreed upon by the humble treehouse?

Cypress, Pebble, Ballybunion, Dornoch, and Pac Dunes would probably qualify with at least 2/3 of us, I assume.

Kiawah and Turnberry might come close.

Thus, if they simply ditched 3 of their selections and reordered them, then the Golf Channel braintrust could go back to plotting the conversion of golf news and tournament coverage into TMZ-Wasp Edition with intermittent reality show marathons.  ;D

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Michael Blake

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Re: Golf Channel's Top 10 Ocean Courses
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2009, 05:28:06 PM »
TGC is the Palmer channel...in which Tiger is the leading star.  He deserves the attention, and TGC does a fine job of staying in his good graces. 

They sure do.  Ranking his course that hasn't even been built yet as a runner-up to the top ten!

What a joke!

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