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John Kavanaugh

Strange Bedfellows
« on: September 29, 2008, 07:50:26 AM »
In the book Inside Inside James Lipton speaks of his best friend George Plimpton in great detail.  On the surface, this relationship struck me as strange.  Who are some of the similar "strange bedfellows" found in golf architecture and how have their seemingly different personalities improved the game?  An obvious example of course is Pete and Alice Dye, without Alice, Pete may have never built a playable course.

Michael

Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 09:58:45 AM »
Speaking of Dye..


I'm sure this has been talked to death here, but what is the take on #17 at Sawgrass?..it seems that it evokes some strong opinions from players and designers alike

Thomas MacWood

Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 10:28:36 AM »
How about Howard Toomey and Wm Flynn. Flynn was HS educated from a very modest Irish roots. I don't believe his father could read and write. Toomey was Ivy league grad whose family was very well off.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 10:52:32 AM »
            Banks            and       Raynor,
an English professor and a Surveyor.
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Rich Goodale

Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2008, 10:56:20 AM »
Bob Jones and Clifford Roberts
John Kavanaugh and Gillette Silver

Matt_Cohn

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 12:53:14 PM »
Nicklaus and Doak is the obvious modern one.

Bob_Huntley

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2008, 05:04:16 PM »
Oscar Wilde and Lord Alfred Douglas.

Bob

JMorgan

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2008, 05:38:09 PM »
Oscar Wilde and Lord Alfred Douglas.

Bob

Heh heh.

Craig Sweet

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2008, 06:06:03 PM »
Bush and Pelosi....can not believe these Democratic clowns would support this bailout....but there they are sounding and acting like Bush...sad.
No one is above the law. LOCK HIM UP!!!

Kalen Braley

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2008, 06:19:27 PM »
Craig,

Glad to see your a big Newt Gingrich fan!   ;D

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94900671

I must say that I agree with him too.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2008, 06:45:57 PM by Kalen Braley »

TEPaul

Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2008, 06:43:04 PM »
"How about Howard Toomey and Wm Flynn. Flynn was HS educated from a very modest Irish roots. I don't believe his father could read and write."




And that makes that about as much of a fact as the Man in the Moon!

Re: Strange Bedfellows?

How about Myopia's Boston Brahmin quartet of Herbert Carey Leeds, R.M. Appleton, Thomas Watson Merrill, S.A. Gardner and Willie Campbell? Those four and Willie were such strange bedfellows they apparently had nothing to do with one another in golf course architecture or else they wouldn't admit it! Matter of fact, Myopia itself and Willie Campbell were such strange bedfellows Myopia completely forgot to mention he was ever in bed with them, that he was ever their pro for a single year and that he did any more at Myopia than play in the 1898 US Open at that course!  ;)

Well, that's actually not the case. The Myopia history book did say in very glowing terms that some of the very early Scottish and English pros like Campbell were extremely influential in teaching golf and promoting the game and its spirit from abroad over here in the 1890s.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2008, 06:45:10 PM by TEPaul »

RJ_Daley

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Re: Strange Bedfellows
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 12:15:44 AM »
Tommy Naccarato and Des Muirhead.  ;) ::) ;D
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