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David Stamm

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2008, 12:13:36 AM »
I think Ojai can be defined as successful. Barona Creek probably is as well. I can't say the resort is successful or not, and I'm not saying the course is what one would travel across the country to play, but Monarch Beach has just one course.
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

mike_beene

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2008, 01:10:00 AM »
Four Seasons Nevis. It does have a nice beach also.

TX Golf

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2008, 02:13:00 AM »
IMHO, a course can absolutely survive (and succeed) with only a single golf course. As I think about it, almost every resort I have ever been to has had more then one course. However, I find that I continually play the same course because it is by far the better course. As I see it, if a resort can build multiple great golf courses (aka Bandon and Pebble) all the better. I don't see the reason for a "B" course, as nobody wants to play it anyways.

Robert

John Moore II

Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2008, 12:42:09 PM »
Tobacco Road, while not exactly a resort, gets by fairly well with only one golf course and no members. I think the key to survival is the location of the course. If the location is very remote, and there are no other options, or very few other options, more than one course is likely needed, unless you have something unbelievable. On the other hand, if you have a resort in a 'resort' town, like Pinehurst, Myrtle Beach, Monterey, etc. you can get by with one course and a good hotel. Shadow Creek also has done well as a single resort/casino course.

Bob_Huntley

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2008, 12:47:07 PM »
Quail Lodge in Carmel Valley with only one course is a quite successful.

Bob


Bill_McBride

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2008, 06:09:01 PM »
Cuscowilla.

Though less notable, Barnsley Gardens, also in GA.
The advantage of Cuscowilla is that Reynolds Plantation is right down the road. Lots of good golf in the area, Jack

I'm not sure how much of an advantage for Cuscowilla that is.  You can only play the Reynolds courses as a resort guest at Reynolds, or as a member.  That might actually hurt Cuscowilla, since visitors to the Oconee area have to choose one or the other.

You think Long Shadow will benefit from the one course factor at Cuscowilla?

I have only seen the Reynolds courses from the access roads, but from what I saw, I would rate Cuscowilla / Long Shadow a better combo. 

I know, shoot me, how can I rank 'em without playing 'em, etc etc.  ::)

J_ Crisham

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2008, 07:50:22 PM »
Bill, I felt the courses at Reynolds were pretty respectable. Cuscawilla is probably better but nice options if in the area. Havn't been to Longshadow. Jack

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2008, 07:58:31 PM »
Cuscowilla.

Though less notable, Barnsley Gardens, also in GA.
The advantage of Cuscowilla is that Reynolds Plantation is right down the road. Lots of good golf in the area, Jack

I'm not sure how much of an advantage for Cuscowilla that is.  You can only play the Reynolds courses as a resort guest at Reynolds, or as a member.  That might actually hurt Cuscowilla, since visitors to the Oconee area have to choose one or the other.

You think Long Shadow will benefit from the one course factor at Cuscowilla?

I have only seen the Reynolds courses from the access roads, but from what I saw, I would rate Cuscowilla / Long Shadow a better combo. 

I know, shoot me, how can I rank 'em without playing 'em, etc etc.  ::)

Bill,
I would think would be at least some spillover between Cuscowilla and Long Shadow, especially as time goes by and Long Shadow becomes more of a "destination" course.

The only course I've played at Reynolds is Great Waters, which I liked a lot, and which is considered by many to be the best of the bunch at the resort.  But I'd take either Long Shadow or Cuscowilla hands down.  Wouldn't even have to think about it.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

jim_lewis

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Re: Can a resort succeed with only one course?
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2008, 10:38:48 AM »
I enjoyed the resort and the old Ross course at the Sagamore. I don't have inside info, but the resort looked pretty successful to me.
"Crusty"  Jim
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