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Paul Richards

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Chicago Highlands - update
« on: April 23, 2008, 06:46:05 AM »
Here is an article that updates the progress on the newest private course near Chicago.  Click on the link to see the pictures:

http://www.golfcoursenews.com/news/news.asp?ID=4109


Standing out in a crowd
By Margaret Hepp
4/17/2008    

   
Imagine the ideal setting for a new country club: a dense population, full of potential members; a rich history and culture; awe-inspiring scenery; sprawling land ripe for development. In today’s market, it’s almost impossible to find such a location where demand for a private facility is high. But three partners in Chicago have done just that, and for the first time in more than 80 years, construction is under way for a private, 18-hole family golf facility just outside the city.
 

Opening in the summer of 2009, the Chicago Highlands Club in Westchester, Ill., is a par-72 course set on 270 acres with clear views of the city skyline. Construction of the Arthur Hills design began in 2007 on the property, formerly a landfill. Incredibly, there are 4.1 million people within a 15-mile radius of the site, says club owner John Baxter, a commercial real estate developer.

“It might be the No. 1 location for a new private club in the entire country,” Baxter says. “Within a 15-mile radius, we have more than the population of 21 or 22 different states in the country. We’re the first private family club to be built since 1926, and we’ve signed 100 families already without a single ad.”
Charter memberships and first flight golf memberships are sold out. Second flight golf memberships, requiring a fully refundable, noninterest bearing membership deposit of $120,000, are available until completely subscribed. Annual dues are projected at $9,300 and include unlimited family use of the golf course, practice facility and golf instruction, as well as full use of recreation amenities. The club will feature a pool, tennis courts, ice skating rink and bowling alley. Acreage is about double that of the average private course in Chicago, Baxter says.

“The members who have been in here are shocked at the amount of land that’s here,” says superintendent Michael Heustis, a recent hire. “A large number of people who live in the surrounding area don’t even know this is here.”

The former Chicago Golf Club assistant superintendent will move from the country’s oldest 18-hole course to the country’s newest. Heustis first heard about the position in the summer of 2007, though the job wasn’t posted officially until November.

“I decided that was go-time,” he says. “I basically went on the attack and told myself I was going to channel all my efforts to see what I could do with this.”
Thomas Healy, golf course owner and operator based in the Washington, D.C., area, interviewed Heustis and a handful of others for the position in January 2008. Healy, Baxter and third partner, Joseph Hills, narrowed the number of candidates to 14, then four.

“The level of quality among the candidates was unbelievable,” Baxter says. “It’s like American Idol when you have four great candidates who are so good. You know they’re all going to be successful. It was tough to pick one, but Michael was just a fantastic candidate. He’s so energetic and enthusiastic.”
After a third-round interview in February, Heustis received a surprise phone call on his drive home.

“I was literally only a couple miles down the road from my third interview, and they called me and offered me the position,” he recalls. “It was a lot of work. I haven’t put that much time and effort into anything in a long time, as far as a job application goes. We put together chemical programs, fertilizer programs, equipment budgets, labor budgets, operating budgets, grow-in budgets – and that was all just for the interview.”
Heustis was one of several assistant superintendents interviewed for the job. Healy and Hills opened public golf courses successfully in Maryland with assistant superintendents in charge, Heustis says.

“Opportunities are few and far between right now for assistants,” Heustis says. “I feel pretty fortunate.”
Well-aware of the responsibility resting on his shoulders, Heustis feels confident about the club’s position in the market and its future and is eager to continue progress.

“It’s been an exciting project,” he says. “Obviously, with any new construction or renovation, there’s a lot of work to be done. That’s what I signed up for, and that’s what I’m looking forward to. A lot of great people are on board. Together, we’re going to create a great facility.” GCI


Follow Michael Heustis’s transition into his new superintendent role in the July 2008 issue of Golf Course Industry.

Thursday, April 17, 2008

"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 10:17:14 AM »
"First time in 80 years"

I doubt this statement about CH being the first new private "family club" in 80 years in the area. What about The Merit Club or Wynstone, for example? Aren't they newer "family clubs?"

Perhaps the author is referring to a free standing non-residential family club.

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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 10:39:47 AM »
Who were the finalists for the job?

tlavin

Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 11:46:12 AM »
This club is going to suffer in its attempt to open in this economy, not to mention the competition it will be up against in that area (Butterfield, Medinah, Hinsdale, Ruth Lake and Butler).  They are hopeful that they can pluck people off the waiting list of some of their competition, but I think it will be tough sledding.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 05:16:37 PM »
Tiger:

The third partner is Joe Hills ... Art's son.  I think he was probably the only finalist.

Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 09:53:23 PM »
"First time in 80 years"

I doubt this statement about CH being the first new private "family club" in 80 years in the area. What about The Merit Club or Wynstone, for example? Aren't they newer "family clubs?"

Perhaps the author is referring to a free standing non-residential family club.



Steve

When it is mentioned as the first 'family club' in the area in 80 years, that is a true statement as the next newest club in the area is Butler National - a men-only club.

The others you mentioned (Wynstone and Merit) are WELL over an hour away - with no traffic.  They are not in the 'area' and would not be considered competition for members for CH.

 :) :)
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

cary lichtenstein

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 12:04:41 AM »
Chicagoans are familiar with landfills with Dick Nugents's 2 courses on the south side...I played there twice and got an oily film over every inch of my cloths and body as did everyone else.

This will be one had sell.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Mark Smolens

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 11:52:22 AM »
Cary, do you lie down on the ground when you tee your ball up or line up a shot?  I've played at Harborside at least 50 times on each course and have never experienced the "oily film" phenomenon you describe.  Are there spots where it looks like the creature from the black lagoon might be bubbling to the surface?  Perhaps, but I try to keep my ball a tad closer to the fairway. 

If your complaint about Harborside's courses was that they water the fairways too damn much, I would be in complete agreement.  Tim Nugent tells me that there's no reason to do that other than a maintenance preference.  But to describe a course built on a landfill as a hard sell based on the familiarity of Chicagoans is far from accurate.  Willow Hill, the Meadows in Blue Island and Mill Creek are all landfill reclaimed courses that put the lie to the concept that golf courses are not environmentally green open space.

Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2008, 07:55:16 PM »
Cary, do you lie down on the ground when you tee your ball up or line up a shot?  I've played at Harborside at least 50 times on each course and have never experienced the "oily film" phenomenon you describe.  Are there spots where it looks like the creature from the black lagoon might be bubbling to the surface?  Perhaps, but I try to keep my ball a tad closer to the fairway. 

If your complaint about Harborside's courses was that they water the fairways too damn much, I would be in complete agreement.  Tim Nugent tells me that there's no reason to do that other than a maintenance preference.  But to describe a course built on a landfill as a hard sell based on the familiarity of Chicagoans is far from accurate.  Willow Hill, the Meadows in Blue Island and Mill Creek are all landfill reclaimed courses that put the lie to the concept that golf courses are not environmentally green open space.

Mark makes some wonderful points here.

Having played Harborside (both courses) a number of times, I have never had an "oily film over every inch of my cloths and body as did everyone else" either.

The fact is that Harborside's courses are both excellent public venues, that the fact that they are built on a dump does nothing bad to the golf experience.  In fact, it offers views that are not available anywhere else.




"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

cary lichtenstein

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2008, 08:01:35 PM »
I must have been rolling around in the grass
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Paul Richards

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2008, 08:13:26 PM »
I must have been rolling around in the grass

Or swimming in the 'dark lakes'.....

 ;)
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Mark Smolens

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 01:00:34 PM »
There's a very nice Ping Anser in the lake off to the side of #16 on the Port Course, deposited there by a pro friend of mine who had a poor day on the greens.  Of course, since that was some 10 years ago now, one wonders what condition the club might be after being in that murky water for so long. . .

RJ_Daley

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 02:14:33 PM »
I've heard many say that these capped landfill courses are always soggy and overwatered.  Yet, as above, it is said there should be no particular reason for such other than the local course management approach.

Could it be that overwatering is needed to keep the bad stuff beneath perculating down as opposed to the bad stuff volotising and migrating up?

I'd love to hear some turf talk, and health observations now that we've had these land fill capped courses around for a number of years.

It must be a significant professional challenge for a fellow like Michael Heustis to leave an historical and traditional venue for such a different kind of management, I'd imagine. 
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Mark Smolens

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 03:59:17 PM »
Mr. D, I asked Tim Nugent about this at a recent GCA dinner event (his Dad was the designer of Harborside).  He knew of no reason that the fairways needed to be kept soaked.  About 2 years after they opened, their irrigation input pipes became clogged by zebra mussels, and they could get no water from the adjacent lakes to water the course.  The greens were hand watered from water tank trucks, but they let the fairways go without irrigation.  The course got brown, hard and fast.  It was AWESOME.  On a windy day (the course is 40 or 50 feet elevated above the nearby landscape, so wind is accentuated there) I can recall hitting unreachable downwind par 5s, and bouncing the ball on from 40' short of greens.  Sorta like links golf you say?  Then, they fixed the pipes  :(

Steve Lang

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 12:00:59 PM »
 8)

The answer to every good environmental question begins with.. "it depends"

Things creeping out..

It depends upon what type of landfill operation was ongoing there and especially whether landfill gas (50-65% methane, + carbon dioxide + parts per million stinky sulfur compounds + other trace hydrocarbons..) is being collected. 

Roughly 3 feet of clay cap material is generally specified to limit the percolation of water into a landfill.. the last thing you really want in a landfill is for it to become a " leaky bathtub" full of water that becomes "leachate" ..  I remember a grad school prof in Cinti who found non-decomposed newspapers and even hot dogs in old "dry" type landfills..

the micro-biological decomposition depends on moisture, so if there are orgainc things in there.. keeping it too wet, or violating the cap seal could lead to longer term issues.. dead grass areas and smell being first indicators.. settlling being another..

great views of Houston from the Wildcat landfill course, The Highlands..

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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Chicago Highlands - update
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2008, 12:13:20 PM »
Thanks Tom

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