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David Stamm

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Golf course "baseball cards"
« on: February 25, 2008, 01:39:53 PM »
I have never seen anything like this. From 1924, a baseball style card of the HCOEG. Call me a geek, I think it's pretty cool and unique.


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"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Brad Tufts

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2008, 01:42:39 PM »
I actually have a set of the Player's Cigarettes (I think) golf course cards produced in the 30s, I believe.  They are of English courses, and there are about 35 of them.
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

David Stamm

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2008, 01:43:20 PM »
The seller has numerous others, Braid Hills, Cruden Bay, Deal, Ganton many others.
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Tom Dunne

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2008, 02:11:01 PM »
Scott Macpherson's book on the evolution of the Old Course has some pictures of skinny old trading cards depicting how various golfers (tigers and rabbits) would fare on TOC's holes. Text by Bernard Darwin. Most entertaining!

Mike Mosely

Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2008, 03:03:15 PM »
David, I agree.  I think its a great idea.  I wonder why no one ever did golf course baseball cards...or pro golfer baseball cards.  Hmmm...where's our GCA entrepreneur?

Calling George Pazin!  Calling George Pazin!  Great idea on line one!

I can see it now.  Dude, I'll trade you THREE Alotian number 10s for your NGLA #2.

Mike Mosely

Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2008, 03:21:03 PM »
Yeah, Shivas, but you can't collect the Internet pages and trade them for other Internet pages.

You know if you made some golf hole cards "rare" like only 10 of 17 at TOC or only a dozen of 7 at Shinny or something you could create a demand...

Jon Spaulding

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2008, 04:35:24 PM »
DS; can I trade you (2) Tustin Ranch rookie cards for (1) Tijeras Creek all-star card?

This is a good idea; in Haiti 8)
You'd make a fine little helper. What's your name?

James Bennett

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2008, 06:13:42 PM »
I think Neil Crafter wrote about the golf cards in one of the early Golf Architecture magazines.  It was at the rear of the magazine, near the book reviews.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

astavrides

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2008, 06:55:22 PM »
David, I agree.  I think its a great idea.  I wonder why no one ever did golf course baseball cards...or pro golfer baseball cards.  Hmmm...where's our GCA entrepreneur?

Calling George Pazin!  Calling George Pazin!  Great idea on line one!

I can see it now.  Dude, I'll trade you THREE Alotian number 10s for your NGLA #2.

pro golfer cards exist.  i have some circa late 1990's.

JeffTodd

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2008, 07:31:57 PM »
David, I agree.  I think its a great idea.  I wonder why no one ever did golf course baseball cards...or pro golfer baseball cards.  Hmmm...where's our GCA entrepreneur?

Calling George Pazin!  Calling George Pazin!  Great idea on line one!

I can see it now.  Dude, I'll trade you THREE Alotian number 10s for your NGLA #2.

pro golfer cards exist.  i have some circa late 1990's.
Donruss did PGA golf cards in '81 and '82 as well.

James Bennett

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2008, 03:23:40 PM »
David Stamm

I checked my copies of Golf Architecture (the Australian annual magazine that Neil Crafter and his fellow association have put out) and volume 3 talks about these very cards (see page 27).

'It was not until 1924 that Wills did justice to British golf courses with their magnificent 1924 issue of "Golfing" which comprised 25 cards bearing most attractive paintings depicting views on well known courses, including Burnham & Berrow, Deal, Ganton, Hoylake, Troon, Westward Ho! and Sandwich.'

Neil illustrates his article with the 5th green at Cruden Bay whereas the ebay sale is for the Wills card for Muirfield (also 1924).  Neil also refers to two other series of cards in the article (the latest was the John Player and Sons 1936 series of 25 Championship Golf Courses.

Neil's book reference was 'A Century of Golf Cards - A Pictorial History of the Game' by B Bendock and M Baier, Canada, 1993.

One series that Neil referenced are similar in style to the recent extracts by Joe Bausch from his Philadelphia research, with the articles by Joe Dey (IIRC) featuring the play of the star and the dub on various famous holes (I am keenly awaiting to see what happens at Merion East #11).  Perhaps these cards would promote a better attitude to golf for the card and pencil, fairness and presentation set of golfers.  I quote one of the 'How to beat bogey at St Andrews' cards from 1934.


'  "Like that beastly Principal's Nose at St Andrews" grumbled Mr Everyman, "where I hit a perfect shot and was caught.  Better off aiming at the ridiculous thing." So he did, and went straight in. 

"It doesn't bother me." chirped Mr Rabbit.  "I can't reach it."  He was right, because he topped into heather and he reached it in two.  He tried to get out and covered Mr Everyman's ball with a shower of sand. So Mr Everyman got cross and shanked into the railway.

Only Mr Tiger holed out:  he got a four.  '


Yes Tony Muldoon (and others), that is the writing of Bernard Darwin on these cards.  And, how prophetic for Bernard to have known of young Tiger Woods and his ability to miss the Principal's Nose bunker (and all others at TOC for that matter) nearly 70 years before Tiger's Open victory!  :o

James B
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Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Jay Flemma

Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2008, 03:31:49 PM »
What about cards that had beautiful pictures of holes?  I agree who wants to trade pix of fat guys looking off into the distance?  It's certainly not as exciting as catching someone barreling over the catcher at the plate.  But would any of you trade 16 at Cypress for 8 at ballyneal if the phots were good?

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2008, 11:07:45 PM »
You mean this one James ?



James Bennett

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2008, 11:27:43 PM »
Brian

no, but one just like that (for #16 at TOC, not #14 at TOC).  Aren't Bernard Darwin's turns of phrase just delightful, quickly transporting one back to a more carefree era.  And all with an absolute efficiency of language.

The Tiger, Everyman and the Rabbit.  What a threesome.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

James Bennett

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Re: Golf course "baseball cards"
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2008, 05:43:17 PM »
Bump.  Lloyd Cole was commenting on these cards in another thread.

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

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