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Tim Bert

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2008, 10:03:47 PM »
Courses I like that would make for an interesting match play event:

Longshadow - The closing stretch makes for some good match play as long as things aren't out of hand early on.

Edmund Orgill Golf Course - From the white tees.  Playing under 6000 yards, the pros would need birdie to halve most holes.  They'd be going for most of the par 4s from the tee.

Ballyneal - Let the previous hole's winner pick the next tee for a fun twist.

Sheep Ranch - Winner of the previous hole picks the tee AND the green!


And the one I don't like, but would be interested to see host the match play event:

Gillette Ridge - It has some holes I would hate much less if I were playing a match.  It would be fun to see the pros play the #4 banana green.

John Moore II

Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2008, 10:08:27 PM »
Tobacco Road-but play it from the Standard tees just to make it really interesting

Ian Andrew

Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2008, 10:15:51 PM »
Riviera

I'm with Bill on this one.

I would love Riviera since there are so many possible decisions to be made and there is still the opportunity ability to recover because of the nature of the layout.

mike_beene

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2008, 10:54:00 PM »
Coer D'Alene. Lot of bizarre holes and some really good ones too. Sergio and Boo would have to ride the boat to 14 together. Fehrety could drive boat and do stir it up interviews. Plus nice lake views.

Jeremy Rivando

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2008, 12:08:55 AM »
I second the nomination for Pacific Dunes. 

It would be great to see the players on a shorter course that has an ability to offer multiple options while often tempting the aggressive player to hit driver as near the green as possible, possibly leaving a very difficult up and down.

It would certainly be unique and a lot of fun to see on TV.

Jason Topp

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2008, 12:18:28 AM »
I actually like this course as a match play course.  With the pins tucked and the greens convex it is interesting to see how confident these guys are in their iron shots.

The fairways are probably too wide.  I do not see alot of interesting decisions off the tee.

RJ_Daley

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2008, 12:40:56 AM »
If trying to be realistic and hold it at same time of year, and find a course that could accomodate the logistics, I'd go with just switching these last 2 weeks or three weeks.  In any order you like, Riviera, Pebble, and the Fought course they are on.  I think any one of them could be the celebrity pro am, at least Pebble and Riviera have the same star studded cache.  All of them have the logistics infrastructure. 

Going away from California, to a logical same time of year venue... Kiawah TOC is probably OK, as is Bulls Bay ( and the walk there will be a wee strenuous but good for competition)   

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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2008, 12:51:24 AM »
Given that it is a World Championship of Golf it should go around the world.
Royal Melbourne,Chantilly,Hirono, Sunningdale would be a good start.

Tom_Doak

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2008, 01:02:08 AM »
Mike:

Wouldn't they just light up Sunningdale now?  Or would it still be interesting if they did?

I've been in Bandon the last two days.  Wednesday it was calm and sunny and someone might have shot 61.  This afternoon the wind came up and the last five holes at Pacific Dunes would have knocked someone's teeth out.

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2008, 01:44:17 AM »
Tom,

Sunningdale is very short now but the hazards at holes like 5, 6 and 7 stop you from going too far down the fairway - as does the shape of the 17th. The second shots there are pretty much the same as they have always been.
1 is a strong two-shotter as are 10 and 14 although realistically there is not a par five on the course for those guys - and the short 4s like 11 are more dangerous now they can reach the green quite easily.

What it really needs is for the manufactures to make a 6600 yard ball.


I think it would be great fun to play matchplay there - or maybe they could use the more difficult New.

Barnbougle would be great fun for matchplay - too much variation from morning to afternoon for stroke play but perfect for matches.
I played 36 holes there a few weeks ago - wedge on the 7th at 7.30 and 4 iron at 12.00!
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Mark Pearce

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2008, 02:31:10 AM »
Given that this is a WORLD Golf Championship event and the comments made this week (in particular by Westwood but echoed by others) I'm surprised (and, I have to admit disappointed) that there are so many suggestions here for courses in the USA.  Come on guys, there's a whole world out there, don't you think at least one of these events could be played outside the US.  It's really quite civilised in Europe and Australasia, you know, and flights are easy.  Anyway, the premise of this thread is that the top pros will all come, wherever the event is hosted.

In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Matthew Mollica

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2008, 04:15:02 AM »
Another for moving it around the globe, given it's a WGC event.

Barnbougle Dunes
Cape Kidnappers
The Jockey Club
Royal Melbourne
New South Wales
Royal County Down
Royal Dornoch
TOC
Hirono
Halmstad

Matthew
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Steve Kline

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2008, 06:27:19 AM »
Tom - does it really matter if someone would have shot 61 at PD? It is match play. But perhaps architects wouldn't want their courses to be eaten up by the pros, especially ones that weren't really designed with them in mind.

While I find the typical birdie-fest a little boring in stroke play. I'm not sure I would feel the same in match play since it man vs. man. A Holmes-Tiger match could have been very interesting at PD. Holmes seems to hit driver almost exclusively whereas will lay up more if necessary. It would be interesting to see how this played out. And as you pointed the wind could wreak havoc.

I'd like to see them play the match play at any course and at a time of year when wind is a significant factor and the ground game is a must.

Philippe Binette

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2008, 08:34:11 AM »
Would be fun to see them fight over North Berwick West...
But how about National Golf Links of America.

Off the map: Merion West.




Philippe Binette

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2008, 08:36:19 AM »
The best of the best, Machrihanish... crowd 300 people

Philippe Binette

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2008, 08:38:09 AM »
What I would love to see is the final being a full day, tee off at 7:30, 40 minutes break between every 18 holes... play until darkness

Andrew Mitchell

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2008, 09:08:21 AM »
As with most of the non US posters on here I'd like to see it played anywhere but in the USA.

If it keeps its February date then Royal Melbourne or Barnbougle Dunes.

If it can be moved to a European spring or autumn date Royal County Down or Royal Dornoch.
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Phil Benedict

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2008, 09:36:00 AM »
I'm inclined to favor some famous course that we rarely get to see, like Pine Valley or Dornoch.  Perenial # 1 course in the world or the great out-of-the way Scottish links.  Unfortunately, technology may have rendered both inappropriate for the pro game.

Ted Kramer

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2008, 09:54:02 AM »
TOC.

-Ted

Michael Blake

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2008, 10:47:05 AM »
Merion East

Francis Byrne, West Orange NJ

Tim Leahy

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2008, 12:27:01 PM »
PGA West Stadium Course-they said it was too tough for the Hope, for this it would be perfect, also Palm Springs this time of the year is great. Stone
Eagle would be great too.
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tomgoutman

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2008, 01:13:14 PM »
Firestone (just kidding).

Lahinch, because there are so many different ways to play each hole, and I like to see the pros play in a little wind and rain every now and then.

henrye

Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2008, 02:44:25 PM »
Assuming all the "world" events are at different places throughout the world, I would choose a tough little sub par 70 bugger.  First choice, Rye.  Second choice, Harlech.

Ciao

 

Sean,.....really?  Rye makes absolutely no sense to me at all.  To me, good matchplay tv is high risk reward golf.  Rye is a tight little ball eating fescue course with small greens.  No one would ever hit driver.  I fail to see how it would excite.

Augusta is an obvious choice as it seems so many Masters really end up being almost a matchplay on the back nine.  Sawgrass stikes as another good one as do both recent international venues for the President's cup - Royal Montreal & Player's course in South Africa.

Henry

Its fair enough of you don't think Rye a great course.  My angle is that since the US Open, British Open & Masters have many of the great championship courses cornered, why not use other courses which break the mould a bit?  I have seen the par 72-71, 7300 yard course plenty. 

BTW  By implying that Rye is a ball eater I assume you think these events should take place at congenial times of the year.  I think it would be awesome if a great event was staged out of season.

Ciao

You make some good points Sean, but even in the "off" season I think Rye would be iron, wedge.  I'm not making a judgement as to the quality of the course, just its suitability for pro match play.

JESII

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Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2008, 02:49:39 PM »
My home course, or any course I really know well...I think it's great to watch those guys hit the shots that you are really familiar with...

Tom Huckaby

Re: Where Would They Play the Match Play if You Could Choose?
« Reply #49 on: February 22, 2008, 03:39:05 PM »
Santa Teresa GC, San Jose, CA.

Only they have to institute a new rule - reigning club match play champion gets a spot in the field, as #64 seed.

That would have meant on Tuesday:

Woods (1) v. Huckaby (16)

Bring him on...
 ;D


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