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Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2007, 01:38:49 PM »
Mike,
I've laid 2-1 odds by the 12th hole your going to want a Falcon to come screaming down from the heavens and craw your eyes out of your ocular sockets.

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2007, 01:40:40 PM »
Yes, but Plan 9 From Outer Space is a work of art......Even you know this.

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2007, 01:43:10 PM »
You can learn as much from playing terrible courses as you can from great ones, just as no film director's education is complete without seeing both Citizen Kane and Heaven's Gate.

Gib,

It's a great analogy.   An old friend of mine used to peruse the TV guide for movies that were either **** or * , knowing that in either case he was going to be entertained.


Tommy,

I've already packed the bunsen burner to heat up my 2-iron for just that purpose, should I succumb to that overwhelming urge.   Of course, it's an older Taylor-Made blade model that should be sharp enough for the job.

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2007, 01:48:17 PM »
Mike,
If you do it, then the Taylor-Made two-iron should be as rusty and dirty; unsterilized as you can get it.

PThomas

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2007, 01:48:36 PM »
Mike - they say you must confront your fears to get over them...

kind of like the way G Gordon Liddy apparently cooked and ate a rat  :o ??? :P :P one time to get over his fear of them

pls report back either way.....Godspeed my friend! ;)
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Gib_Papazian

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2007, 01:55:30 PM »
Mike,

Heaven's Gate seems particularly appropriate because vast amounts of money were spent for what turned out to be a disjointed disaster.

I was in the audience at the Norris Theater at 'SC for the original screening with Michael Cimino.

As a related epilogue to the sad story, it was drastically re-edited and released a couple years later under the title: "The Johnson County Wars" - a watered down, forgettable western at best.

I suppose this course you are playing might be "re-edited" someday, but I am guessing it will end up in the trash heap of failed, un-salvageable experiments.

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2007, 01:56:53 PM »
Thank you, Paul...

Tommy, I think you're missing some of the finer architectural points here.

For instance, I bet you didn't know that Rees utilized a rare, but effective architectural technique in routing the front nine (see Mike Dugger's illustration above), a process better known as "The Insertion"*.  

It's sort of a Des Muirhead symbolic thing, but it's meant to illustrate aerially exactly what is happening to the consumer who is paying $100+ to play there, and I understand it is best appreciated playing that nine slightly bent over.


*guys with a real eye for the  finer architectural details will also notice that he located his front nine ponds for ease of entry.

Gib_Papazian

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2007, 02:17:40 PM »
I am going to have to amend my previous comments now that I know who designed this golf course. There is nothing to be learned from this, chiefly because it is a rerun of the same bad movie over and over again.

Those lifeless ovals ought to have been the tip-off . . . . . like Atlantic only with a lower I.Q. . . . . .

At least Mike Cimino had "The Deer Hunter" to define his career . . . . . Rees keeps getting work . . . . . I do not understand it.

« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 02:31:27 PM by Gib Papazian »

SL_Solow

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2007, 02:20:17 PM »
Tommy;  I played it at a client event a few years ago which took away my choice of venue.  I survived apparently no less sane then I was at the start (insert sarcatic retort here).  It was less than inspirational but no worse than many others I have played.  Mike will come through this just fine.

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2007, 02:20:41 PM »
I am going to have to amend my previous comments now that I know who designed this golf course. There is nothing to be learned from this, chiefly because it is a rerun of the same bad movie over and over again.

Those lifeless ovals ought to have been the tip-off . . . . . like Atlantic only with a lower I.Q. . . . . .

At least Mike Cimino had "The Deer Hunter" to define his career . . . . . Rees keeps getting work . . . . . I do not understand it.

Gib,

At this point, it's probably more like "Freddy meets Jason XV".

Doug Sobieski

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2007, 02:24:40 PM »
Surprisingly, Falcon's Fire is a cash cow in the public market of Orlando so it's doubtful that they'll change anything drastically. Location, Location, Location, coupled with an upscale product that the clientele confuses with good golf. Fortunately, during high season in Orlando, people are just happy to be playing golf, period, so they are blind to the architecture.

Mike, I'll want to know what you make on "Never A Bogey". There will be a lot of pressure on you.


Gib_Papazian

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2007, 02:31:40 PM »
It was hardly necessary to see "Ernest Goes To Prison" after suffering through "Ernest Goes To Camp."

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2007, 02:35:04 PM »
It was hardly necessary to see "Ernest Goes To Prison" after suffering through "Ernest Goes To Camp."

On the other hand, I thought that "Big Top Pee Wee" was absolutely necessary must-see after "Pee Wee's Big Adventure".


btw, GUYS, where's the love???

I thought "The Insertion" above was my proudest moment since at least Dev Emmett w/Teddy Roosevelt, and possibly as far back as Donald Ross as Yoda and Wilford Brimley.   ;D

And...not a single comment.   :-[
« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 02:39:42 PM by MikeCirba »

Dan Kelly

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2007, 02:37:33 PM »



That greenside bunker will work perfectly on the "Phantom of the Opera" hole at Andrew Lloyd Webber G.C.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Dan Kelly

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2007, 02:39:15 PM »
btw, GUYS, where's the love???

I thought "The Insertion" above was my proudest moment since at least Dev Emmett w/Teddy Roosevelt, and possibly as far back as Donald Ross as Yoda.   ;D

And...not a single comment.   :-[

None of us wants to admit we've ever heard of Pee Wee.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2007, 02:40:34 PM »
btw, GUYS, where's the love???

I thought "The Insertion" above was my proudest moment since at least Dev Emmett w/Teddy Roosevelt, and possibly as far back as Donald Ross as Yoda.   ;D

And...not a single comment.   :-[

None of us wants to admit we've ever heard of Pee Wee.

Dan...no...no no

It was above that...back a bit...talking about Rees's routing technique on the front nine.  

I haven't been that inspired in some time.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 02:41:18 PM by MikeCirba »

Tom Yost

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2007, 02:46:06 PM »
btw, GUYS, where's the love???

I thought "The Insertion" above was my proudest moment since at least Dev Emmett w/Teddy Roosevelt, and possibly as far back as Donald Ross as Yoda.   ;D

And...not a single comment.   :-[

None of us wants to admit we've ever heard of Pee Wee.

Dan...no...no no

It was above that...back a bit...talking about Rees's routing technique on the front nine.  

I haven't been that inspired in some time.

A Dork 6.
 ;)

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2007, 02:48:40 PM »
Thanks Tom...I'll take it.

Dan Kelly

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2007, 02:49:28 PM »


As Mike Cirba (note: Mike Cirba) notes, holes 4 and 5 look like a stiff test.

(That enough love for ya, big boy?)
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Peter Pallotta

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2007, 02:55:01 PM »
Dan
that should be just about enough, for anyone.

Peter

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2007, 02:55:37 PM »
I knew I could count on you, Dan.  

I just felt a cold shiver run down my spine knowing that's what I'll be facing in less than 36 hours.   :o :-[

Dan Kelly

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2007, 03:00:16 PM »
I knew I could count on you, Dan.  

I just felt a cold shiver run down my spine knowing that's what I'll be facing in less than 36 hours.   :o :-[

Seems like that shiver should be running up your spine.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Paul Perrella

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Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2007, 03:34:37 PM »
Mike,

   My brother and I, along with two friends, played Falcon's Fire a number of years ago and a funny thing happened. It was the first time my brother, riding shotgun, had tried to use the GPS unit attached to each cart. He fiddled with the unit the entire first hole trying to get us some yardages but finally gave up. In the middle of the third fairway an employee brought us the three hamburgers my brother had ordered. We had just eaten so the employee gladly took them back stating that it happened all the time.Even though I belong to a Rees Jones course, I could find very little I liked about this course but this story stuck with me.

   Paul

Mike_Cirba

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2007, 05:58:03 PM »
Mike,

   My brother and I, along with two friends, played Falcon's Fire a number of years ago and a funny thing happened. It was the first time my brother, riding shotgun, had tried to use the GPS unit attached to each cart. He fiddled with the unit the entire first hole trying to get us some yardages but finally gave up. In the middle of the third fairway an employee brought us the three hamburgers my brother had ordered. We had just eaten so the employee gladly took them back stating that it happened all the time.Even though I belong to a Rees Jones course, I could find very little I liked about this course but this story stuck with me.

   Paul

Paul,

What?!?  They don't serve Stewart Sandwiches at Falcon's Fire?!?!?!   :o :-[ :'( :'( :'( :'(

And they have GPS??!?!?!?   :o

The world is going to hell in a hand-basket, I tell you.


Good to hear from you!  ;)  ;D
« Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 05:58:37 PM by MikeCirba »

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Into the mouth of the beast
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2007, 07:16:05 PM »
Mike Cirba,

Can you be intellectually objective, absent any predisposition toward the architecture and the play of the golf course ?

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