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mark chalfant

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Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« on: September 11, 2007, 02:18:15 PM »
A friend from the great plains mentioned to me, that either John Fought or Keith Foster was planning some restoration at Omaha CC. I think the terrain has some nice movement to it  . Has anyone played the course in the past or recently. What are the most memorable holes/ features ?

thanks



ps  any club history book, some contend  Langford  or  Stiles  worked on  OCC

PThomas

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Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 02:25:33 PM »
according to Links magazine's Sept 07 issue, Foster just completed the "rejuvenation" of the course...also states that the course has long been revered by Ben Crenshaw for its wild greens and classic design features.  "New irrigation, drainage and extensive tree removal have restored Maxwell's substantial heartland vision."  ..Geoff Shackelford was the author, by the way
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Jason Hines

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Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 10:51:51 PM »
Hi Mark,

Here is the website, I moved away from Omaha recently and did not get a chance to play the course after it reopened.  

www.omahacc.org

From word of mouth and from peering through the trees, the course sure looks great.  I also would love to hear from someone who has played the course recently.

Jason

Bob Jenkins

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Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 11:55:46 PM »

Hi!

I agree the course looks great.

I am scheduled to be in Omaha for a business meeting on October 25 and was wondering if the course is likely to be open at that time of year.

If so, I think I will be able to get an invitation. I have never played a Perry Maxwell course and would look forward to it. I am assuming that one takes one's chances that time of year. It can be great but it could also be freezing. No???

If you know that area, would you pack your clubs in late October?

Thanks,

Bob Jenkins

Tom Renli

Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 12:16:19 AM »
I played it about three years ago.  I recall the member I played with indicating that Maxwell did some work on the greens and that over years that course had been worked on a fair amount by a number of different people.  The thing that sticks out in my mind was the heavy premium in being below the hole.

Late October could be literally anything weather wise.  Probably a 40% chance you can play early afternoon.  Check the weather before you leave.

Jeff_Brauer

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Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2007, 01:08:59 AM »
Mark,

The original design was either LM (club) or Stiles (Whitten)  Both have it listed in 1920's advertisements.  However, Maxwell did about five greens there in 1951-2.  It was his last remodel job and he died shortly thereafter.

Whoever did the original, it had some neat holes, at least according to some old aerials.  The third had a punch bowl, for example.  A local club pro redid several holes to "modernize" them in the 60's.  Austin based gca Dave Bennet did a master plan in the 70's, but I don't think any work ever came out of that.  

In the 80's we were hired to route a new nine holes, which obviously never got built.  Later, we interviewed against C and C for a master plan, which never got done.  Finally, a few years ago, they interviewed Keith and I, and finally got something going.  I haven't seen it, but I am sure its Keith's typical wonderful job.

They did want to follow the Maxwell link, since most members liked those greens best, even though you could putt off the green on a few of his greens, like 5.  I am pretty certain that Keith's work at Southern Hills sealed the deal for him.

It does sit on great land, and next time I get back to the area, I am going to make a point of seeing the work.

Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Dan Boerger

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Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 08:21:48 AM »
Bob - I had a fairly long term consulting gig about a mile from that course a few years back. In late October, all bets are off weather wise. - Dan
"Man should practice moderation in all things, including moderation."  Mark Twain

Jeff Shelman

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Re:Omaha (maxwell) in neb.
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 05:50:31 PM »
Here is a story from May from the Omaha World-Herald. Sounds like a place that would be great to check out.



OMAHA COUNTRY CLUB Omaha gem regains shine Country club gets $4 million facelift Course upgrades

BYLINE: Dirk Chatelain, WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

SECTION: SPORTS; Pg. 03C

LENGTH: 1100 words


PGA Tour pro Scott Gutschewski arrived last year at Omaha Country Club's 18th hole, shoved his tee into the ground, coiled his hips and hammered a ball into the clouds. When it returned to Earth, he had only a pitch into the green. At the time, the 18th hole was 415 yards. Now it's 461.

"He isn't going to be doing that from this tee," said Paul Conley, OCC president, from a new patch of green grass beneath a towering bur oak.

One of Nebraska's classic golf gems has added a little polish since Gutschewski's last visit. A three-year, $4 million renovation project has neared completion, revealing alterations that modernize outdated characteristics and restore design elements that helped craft the course's reputation.

"We've got a 1928 golf course here," Conley said. "It's going to stand the test of time."

For decades, change at OCC came little by little. A few new tees here, a new green there. The result was a patchwork quilt: appealing, but inconsistent. This overhaul, administered by course architect Keith Foster, who recently renovated 2007 PGA Championship host Southern Hills in Tulsa, is seamless.

To the casual observer, all but a few changes are easy to overlook. That's OK, Foster said. A course's charm derives from subtlety, not flash.

"I think the great golf courses are understated," Foster said. "They feel like they've always been there."

OCC's course, scheduled to reopen June 23 after being closed since May 2006, has been a fixture among Nebraska's best layouts since it opened. In recent years, however, it had fallen from the state's elite. In 1999, Golf Digest's venerable rankings listed the course eighth best in Nebraska. The magazine's latest installment placed OCC fifth, behind Sand Hills, Quarry Oaks, Wild Horse and Firethorn.

Expect the club to vault up the rankings, perhaps as high as No. 2.

Acclaim would be a byproduct of change, Conley said, not the motive. In fact, the club's original focus was upgrading golf course infrastructure: cart paths, irrigation and drainage. Those plans turned into a comprehensive renovation, approved by members in spring of 2005.

"The principle," said Patrick Duffy, who chaired the renovation subcommittee, "was let's do it once and do it right. Don't cut any corners."

Foster came in and recognized immediately OCC's allure.

"If you're not from Nebraska, you have this perception of what Nebraska is: flatter pieces of property that look forever," said Foster, who lives in Kentucky. "You don't expect to see something like this: commanding vistas, wonderful trees, a magnificent frame."

Perry Maxwell, who designed Prairie Dunes and Southern Hills, and once helped renovate Augusta National and Pine Valley, had yet to assume legendary design status when he redesigned Omaha Country Club in 1952 just before he died.

As years passed, Maxwell's reputation had grown, but his touch at OCC had been obscured.

Foster, a Maxwell disciple who's made renovation of classic courses his passion, sought to make Maxwell's features prominent again.

Of OCC's 18 greens, only eight were original Maxwell designs. The club duplicated those, softening the contours in a few places to make them more suitable for today's green speeds. The other 10 greens were altered to create a cohesive style.

Club officials found a 1950s photo of the 16th green. The slopes looked unfamiliar -- they had dramatically changed when the club rebuilt the green in the '60s. Now it will play the way Maxwell intended, with a tier separating the front and back.

Foster handled bunkers the same way. He added several, most significantly off the fairway at No. 14, but redesigned them to look like Maxwell's. Many have a steep face, so OCC ordered from Ohio 15 rail cars of new sand that won't collapse in the bunker wall.

Fairways at No. 1, 6 and 9 were slightly re-graded, enabling them to better hold tee shots. Tees were reshaped in a uniform rectangular style. OCC has plenty of teeth, Foster told Conley during the renovation. Don't get too concerned about yardage, which stood at 6,460 yards.

But the club wished to make the par 71 course harder for the expert. It added 286 yards from the back tees -- almost 100 of which come on the final three holes -- without making the course more difficult for average members.

Long par 4s like No. 8, 12, 17 and 18 received the greatest boost, but No. 7, a 194-yard par 3, underwent the most significant change, Duffy said. Stacked bunkers now guard the green's front left side, setting the putting floor up on a shelf.

"It went from a very plain, simple par 3 to a much more difficult, aesthetically pleasing par 3," he said.

Other notable changes:

No. 4, widely perceived as one of the state's best par 4s. The fairway was moved 10 feet into the hill, and there's a new small bunker guarding its left side. Before, Foster said, the hole played almost straightaway. Now it feels like it turns right.

"But more importantly, it turns with the ground," Foster said. "That's what Maxwell really, really did well. He turned holes to match ground. That's what I believe Omaha Country Club now has."

No. 10, a short par 5 that drops off the tee, then rises over a creek to the green. Foster moved the hole right, clearing out trees and re-grading the fairway. He moved the creek slightly away from the tee and added a cluster of bunkers near the green.

No. 11, a downhill par 3 that was one of the weaker holes on the course. Foster redesigned the green and flanked it with bunkers at every corner.

One of more subtle changes to the entire project was deforestation. It sounds egregious, but "it doesn't look like we had a wholesale massacre of trees," Conley said. Foster cut out superfluous trees in the hopes of highlighting the most dramatic, especially mammoth bur oaks that dot the property.

Foster and Conley recently sat outside the clubhouse, overlooking the 18th green. Before the renovation, they wouldn't have been able to see the green -- a line of honey locust trees concealed it. The trees are gone now.

That wasn't the only tweak. Through the years, mowing patterns had shrunk the green little by little, a few inches at a time. During the renovation, Foster noticed a patch just off the putting surface that looked an awful lot like old green structure. Sure enough. Now 18 has a new back pin position.

It had been there the whole time; Omaha Country Club just didn't know it.

Course upgrades

Omaha Country Club's $4 million overhaul strengthened an already difficult course from the back tees.

Before renovation

Yardage: 6,460

Course rating: 71.9

Slope rating: 135

After renovation

Yardage: 6,746

Course rating: 74.3

Slope rating: 135



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