[John Kavanaugh]

Not a pond in sight on #14 which is where I met my early demise (5 & 4).......

Sorry, but that makes it worse.  I'm guessing you hatched this little plan before your round was even over and the fact your wife had a front seat had a role in it.  It is nice that even after a few years of marriage that you still feel a need to impress her.  Do you keep some dumbells by the bed and do a few curls everynight?

[John Kavanaugh]

My only point is that it was not funny...but then again you might recall that I have never seen Caddyshack all the way through because I don't find it funny on any level.  I'm willing to accept it is just me on this one.[/i][/color]

...on the planet!

Please,  tell me about one funny scene in Caddyshack.  I bet you could watch the gopher dance out of his little hole all day...hilarious.

[Kalen Braley]

Well thats the problem John,

You were too focused on the only part of the movie that shouldn't have been there, the stupid gopher.  As to funny scenes, pretty much every one where Dangerfield or Smails were in the scene.  Alot of it is subtle John, but thats just like a fine golf course right? Subtlities a plenty?

[JESII]

My only point is that it was not funny...but then again you might recall that I have never seen Caddyshack all the way through because I don't find it funny on any level.  I'm willing to accept it is just me on this one.[/i][/color]

...on the planet!

Please,  tell me about one funny scene in Caddyshack.  I bet you could watch the gopher dance out of his little hole all day...hilarious.

It's near the end, you wouldn't have seen it.

[John Kavanaugh]

One scene, just one.  How hard can it be from the greatest and funniest golf movie of all time.  Was it when the hose was used as a phalic symbol...damn that was original.  Or was it when Dangerfield turned up the volume on his golf bag radio...I'm killing my point here.  This stuff is classic.

[Brent Hutto]

I realize Caddyshack is a cultural icon for golfers and all that and maybe it's that I came to golf too late and at too advanced an age...

...but my reaction is a lot like John's. I wouldn't go so far as to say that there's not a funny scene in it but I found the gopher and Bill Murray and Chevy Chase all to be quite unfunny. The stuff with the Judge's family was lame as was the entire plot around the main character and his girl friend with the funny accent. Very little of what the caddies did made me laugh.

Funny bits:
1) The swimming pool Jaws takeoff
2) Most of the occasions of Rodney Dangerfield insulting people
3) The priest's round of a lifetime.
4) The crack about the Dali Lama

That's about it, though. I think Caddyshack was probably a lot funnier in its own era when country course snobs were still mainstream objects of ridicule. Seeing it for the first time in the 90's made me wish I were watching a funny Bill Murray picture, or a funny Chevy Chase bit, or an episode of Mary Tyler Moore with Ted Baxter.

Basically, if I didn't have a huge soft spot for Rodney Dangerfield (RIP) then it would be pretty much a loss.

[JR Potts]

The club throw was quite funny.

"Besides, I never slice."

[John Kavanaugh]

And thanks for the convicted meth dealer comparison to my actions because it got me thinking (and not in the linear sense): should his family have gone to jail for his felonious behavior to serve as a deterrent for any potential illegal activities that they may be part of in the future? Can almost here the judge saying "I didn't want to send the kids to the Federal Penitentiary but I felt I owed it to them."

The judge might as well have sentenced the kids to Federal Penitentiary and save the trouble of doing it in the future.  The guy is from a family of felons and for what ever reason it is passed from generation to generation.  If it is genetic or learned behavior I will let you decide.  note:  I think they all apologized at one time.

[John Kavanaugh]

Is Caddyshack the movie where Dangerfield farts and claims to have stepped on a duck?  I remember back in high school when we would all fart on the bus on the way to a match.  Can't beat it for humor.

[Kalen Braley]

John,

Could it be that you didn't find the movie funny because some of the jokes/cracks about the club, the judge, and the members hit a little too close to home?  

[John Kavanaugh]

I'm gonna admit that when Jackie Mason in Caddyshack II said he was Armenian I laughed out loud.

[John Kavanaugh]

Well, I have to run now but I must thank you for your significant insights into family dynamics, psychological patterns, acceptable social behavior and federal sentencing guidelines.

It most certainly has not been an afternoon wasted. Look forward to seeing you on the golf course sometime, John.

Many thanks,
David

No problem...just trying to prove my point why golfers might not like me...sorry.

[Kirk Gill]

Conventional wisdom:


The best golf movie of all time:   Caddyshack.


The worst golf movie of all time:   Caddyshack II


However, many other golfers dislike my taste in movies.

[Kalen Braley]

I would agree there...

I would also add, and I know others are going to cringe at this, but I really liked Happy Gilmore too.  Sure the courses they played were obviously not tour courses, but that scene with Bob Barker and Sandler is just classic.

"I don't want a piece of you, I want the whole thing"

[John_Cullum]

The only real funny scene in Caddyshack that I recall was when Rodney dangerfield was criticizing the hat in the proshop.

The story about sending the kids to jail reminds me of one of the funniest lines from one of John Mortimer's Rumpole novels. Rumpole was representing one of the Timsons on bank robbery charges when Timsons wife and toddler came to court for moral support. When she introduced the youg Timson to Mr. Rumpole he gleefully shook the childs hand and told Mrs Timson to call him as soon as he gets in trouble.

[George Pazin]

Most of the truly funny stuff in Caddyshack is quips like:

Judge Smails: What did you shoot today, Ty?

Ty: Oh, I don't know, I don't keep score.

JS: Then how do you measure yourself against other golfers?

Ty: By height.

Clever dialogue, perfect delivery.

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As for David's story, I always find it funny how people can have completely different takes on a story. I read it as David honestly relating an embarassing anecdote. John somehow views it as self-serving.

Probably says more about the two of us than it says about David.

[Billsteele]

Kalen-I have heard the humor in "Caddyshack" described in many ways...but this is the first time subtle has been used.

[Doug Ralston]

Tin Cup is pretty fun also. Peter Jacobson won one of his two fictional US Opens [the other in the more mediocre 'Dead Solid Perfact'].

Doug

[Chris Cupit]

A brief explanation--in a regular round of golf, no I won't look for any golf balls.  Of course, if it is a match or a stroke play event, I would as a courtesy help an opponent or fellow competitor look for a ball (I still wouldn't like it )

I last threw a club about 18 years ago and I am thankful I grew out of that nasty habit as I am sure I was being a complete d***.

Two true stories in college--finished the last four holes with bogies and still shot 69.  Went to dinner, came back to the dorm and still was so pissed I broke every club in my bag.

Next--after putting like an idiot all day I tied my putter to the back of my car and drove back to the dorm dragging it the whole way--REALLY stupid since it could have come loose and caused lots of problems.

After playing I have no interest in talking about what just happened nor do I care to hear a "weather report" from anyone else's round.  I have realized the worst thing to do is ask, "what did you shoot or how did you play" since with many people they interpret that as an open invitation to give me a stroke by stroke re-creation of their entire round.  That was an old bad habit of mine also since cured.

I do play quickly and I would rather play for $5 and be able to give grief to my playing companions versus playing for a lot of money and having things be all serious.

I am a bit anal about terms like bunker, hole location etc.

I find playing with my wife fun and in general I think most 10 handicappers are a helluva lot more fun to play with then scratch golfers.  If I play with a scratch player, I am usally able to endure that only in a formal competition.

Oh, and in team events I won't apologize for bad shots.  I am trying as hard as I can and I assume my partner is too, so no need to endlessly say "sorry partner" when I am in the woods all day.  Of course, if my partner (or I) "gives up" that's some BS and I wouldn't want to do that to anyone or have it done to me.

I am a good conversationalist though and as long as there is more to talk about than sports we'll have a lot of fun.  

[Doug Siebert]

Well Shivas, I hate to admit it, but on my first hole in one, I dropped the f-bomb as the ball left my clubface.  I caught it a bit thin.  Not badly thin, but thin enough that my 4 iron shot never got more than about 20 to 25 feet off the ground.

I had started out the day playing so terribly on the front nine, duck hooking my way to a 49, but had turned things around well enough on the second nine that I had calculated on the tee that if I came in at even par on the last three (no small feat, at Caroustie) that I could still break 90.  When I mishit that ball I felt my chances of doing so evaporate, not realizing that I was in fact destined to play those final 3 holes in -2!

As it turned out, being a bit thin helped keep it down out of the 25 mph crosswind so that relatively small error probably didn't deserve me to jump the gun on swearing at it before I saw the result.  My dad has never really let me live that one down!

I really do believe in the long run its more important that I hit a shot the way I intended rather than the way that gets the best result.  Hitting the proper shot in the proper situation doesn't guarantee a good result, but it is a much better plan for good results in the long term than hitting ugly shots and getting lucky with the result!

I think that's what you are getting at, isn't it Shivas?  I can hit a skanky shot, and even if it ends up in the middle of the fairway a respectable distance out there or on the green with a reasonable putt at birdie, that doesn't make the shot any better.  Yes, a crappy golfer sees you complain about the shot and thinks are you crazy, a prima donna, or both.  You have to take some shit if you complain about shots they think are too good, they'll suggest that maybe you think you are Tiger Woods and are unhappy because your shots aren't quite as good as his.  But these are the same guys who will skull a pitch to within a foot of the flag and think they really deserved it because of the bad break they had lipping a putt out two holes ago.

[PThomas]

along these lines,  when I tell my wife that if my first hole in one is some lucky piece of crap that gets a bounce of a nearby rake or something like that I won't save the ball she looks at me like I'm a total idiot....

[Brent Hutto]

A decade or so ago Steve Pate was in contention on a Saturday. Not sure why they had a TV microphone pointed at him but he hit an approach shot and while it was in air he started in with his usual "That's a stupid shot you idiot..." self "criticism". The ball rolls out to about a foot from the cup and without even pausing for breath he adds "...it's still a stupid g--d--- shot".

[Doug Ralston]

At a course in Lexington, I once hit into a rightside bunker. After a failed attempt to leave, I hit too hard, all the way across into the leftside bunker. Cursing to myself [a rare thing, honestly, I usually do not take it that seriously], I marched straight across, without raking, and hit it back across into the original bunker! There I found my friend raking my mess [he is obsessive].

Since then I have tried to be a bit more conscientious. I sure hated that he was there and saw my humiliating return. Yes, I know I should also not want to hit him with the ball, but at the time, it might have been less embarrassing if he had been unconscious.

Doug

[Paul Stephenson]

It's been almost 5 long months without playing, but here is what I remember.

1.  Poor Depth Perception.  I never seem to be right in my assessment.  If I say "get up" it's in the back bunker.  "Sit" usually means it's short and wet.  Works for putts too.

2.  Musical taste.  I get the worst songs in my head when I play.  Could be commercials from the 70's or songs from CDs you couldn't pay me to own.  I like to unwillingly share these songs with the others in my group.

3. Complian about a putt that goes in.  You know "Nice putt you...oh look it went in."  I have friends who call these "chortles."  I lead in chortles every year.

[JESII]

...can't think of a thing...

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