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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2007, 07:25:58 PM »
Quote from: RT on March 05, 2007, 05:19:50 AM
Turfgrass is a more efficient exchanger of CO2 to O2 than trees.

I am sorry, but how do you get off making such an absurd statement in public?

Do you have any real information to back that up?
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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2007, 07:27:55 PM »
Quote from: Steve Curry on March 09, 2007, 06:52:42 PM
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If I remember correctly something like .75% of the oxygen is generated by the water bodies covering the Earth.  ...

Water generates oxygen? ??? Now I have heard (read) everything!
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Joe Hancock

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Re:trees
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2007, 07:34:12 PM »
Garland,

I'm no scientist, but what is water composed of? If I remember correctly, somewhere around 1/3 of water is oxygen. When water evaporates, does the oxygen disappear?

Joe
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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2007, 07:37:58 PM »
Joe,

The hydrogen/oxygen bond in water is very strong and needs a huge amount of energy to break. Evaporation does not break that bond. Evaporation simply means that water droplets are now floating around in the air.
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Joe Hancock

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Re:trees
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2007, 07:53:47 PM »
Garland,

Some things that seem obvious, aren't. It's been my day to be wrong.  ;)

Joe
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Steve Curry

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Re:trees
« Reply #80 on: March 09, 2007, 08:02:29 PM »
Garland,

A large portion of the worlds flora are aquatic and there is such a thing as dissolved oxygen!

Cheers,
Steve
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Steve Curry

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Re:trees
« Reply #81 on: March 09, 2007, 08:12:43 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 09, 2007, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: Steve Curry on March 09, 2007, 06:52:42 PM
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If I remember correctly something like .75% of the oxygen is generated by the water bodies covering the Earth.  ...

Water generates oxygen? ??? Now I have heard (read) everything!


Water BODIES?  Can you read?  Can't believe you could so stupidly misquote what you just read and quoted?

Steve
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Craig Sweet

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Re:trees
« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2007, 08:15:56 PM »
The oceans are an incredible holder of carbon.....
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JESII

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Re:trees
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2007, 09:47:59 PM »
Steve Curry,

Is that 75% or .75%?
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LBaker

Re:trees
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2007, 10:38:46 PM »
Steve,

Just like Remington, you have made interesting scientific statements.  when I posted my opinion on cutting down trees, I had to say that global warming is a major factor in my new take.  My mistake was that I thought you all would stay on point.  GCA, gotta love it.  

Many of the Red Tails that live on the property, would circle around 12th tee area because of the pines and spruces that lined the right side of the complex.  Yesterday, I watched a Red Tail fly through the same complex area changing it's elevation like a lie detector machine wondering what happened to it's digs.  

Now, I like the way the complex looks cleared.  But if a pine tree doesn't cause problems with golf shots, would any of you cut it down knowing that it served a basic purpose?  

I am on the fence.  
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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #85 on: March 10, 2007, 01:07:20 AM »
Quote from: Steve Curry on March 09, 2007, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 09, 2007, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: Steve Curry on March 09, 2007, 06:52:42 PM
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If I remember correctly something like .75% of the oxygen is generated by the water bodies covering the Earth.  ...

Water generates oxygen? ??? Now I have heard (read) everything!


Water BODIES?  Can you read?  Can't believe you could so stupidly misquote what you just read and quoted?

Steve

So what you are saying is that it is what is in the water bodies that is generating the oxygen. You still are not claiming the "water body" itself generates the oxygen.

Stupid? Yea, I resemble that remark.

However, I did not "stupidly misquote". I quoted what you wrote exactly.
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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #86 on: March 10, 2007, 01:08:33 AM »
Quote from: W.Vostinak on March 09, 2007, 10:54:17 PM
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 09, 2007, 07:27:55 PM
Water generates oxygen? ??? Now I have heard (read) everything!
Think:
...... what's in the water generates the oxygen ......
Think:
   write exactly what you mean and don't leave ambiguities up for interpretation.

Edit: I'm not going to let you off that easy Redanman. Does the amount of oxygen in all of the earth and it's atmosphere change? Is there an oxygen generator that will eventually have us overflowing with oxygen? Do you believe in alchemy?  ;D
« Last Edit: March 10, 2007, 01:23:36 AM by Garland Bayley »
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Steve Curry

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Re:trees
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2007, 02:04:12 AM »
Garland,

I said that the oxygen was being generated by the water bodies and you then said
"Water generates oxygen?"

So evidently you can't even read?

Please ditch the condescending and arrogant tone until you can avoid such simpleton mistakes!

Lindsey,

Have you ever noticed how the other birds even song birds are always chasing the hawks in flight and wonder why?  So do you want the song birds or their predators?  Which should we save?  And you implied that spaving the trees on golf courses was going to make a difference to which I offered some counterpoints.

Steve
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LBaker

Re:trees
« Reply #88 on: March 10, 2007, 07:52:29 AM »
Steve,

I don't have a preference which type of bird to save.  Your counterpoints? ::)  Thanks for telling me that weeds in the bodies of water contribute to 75% of the earths oxygen.  The ocean is getting larger, so I would like to concentrate on the remainder 25%.  You know, the percentage that I might help restore or increase.  

Lindsey    
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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #89 on: March 10, 2007, 11:10:38 AM »
Steve,

Actually I could have put a smiling by my post as I found it to be a peculiar and even humorous grouping of words. A quick google search on "definition of generate" brought the first definition of "bring into existence". I also thought "water bodies" was an unusual construction that did not immediately suggest the common "bodies of water" we associate with oceans, etc. Instead it brought to mind to "water bodies" in the bottled water commercial.

Sorry if I was condescending. Perhaps Dan Kelly would have handled it better.
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Steve Curry

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Re:trees
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2007, 12:43:23 PM »
Sully,
75%, thanks.

Lindsey,

You handle the new reds and I'll concentrate as hard as I can on the Russetts the size of my head.  I just like when people try to slow down and look at the whole picture.  And that aren't too rash in dumping on posts.  I just read recently that the antartic is actually getting colder and that the temperature data may be seriously skewed as most of the regular data is from city centers or near by and that it is undeniable and sensible to believe relative temperatures close to cities has gone up?  Also in the history of the earth as a planet it wasn't that long ago that you and I would be under or over a large sheet of ice.

Garland,

Bodies of water, Keeper of the Green - Greenkeeper, I try to save typing time.

Do you suppose the a plant some feet to hunderds of feet above its root system would by more proficient at photosynthesis than one some few inches from the soil?

Cheers,
Steve
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ed_getka

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Re:trees
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2007, 05:48:00 PM »
Steve,
   Nice to see you are feeling feisty. I always find that is a good sign in recovering patients. :)
    I had no idea about the 75% of oxygen coming from water. I'll have to look into that one.
   
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Garland Bayley

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Re:trees
« Reply #92 on: March 11, 2007, 11:55:51 AM »
If I read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_cycle
correctly, the ratio of oxygen release from land to oxygen release from oceans is 165 to 135. That puts the oceans at 135/300 = 45%
« Last Edit: March 11, 2007, 11:56:55 AM by Garland Bayley »
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:trees
« Reply #93 on: March 11, 2007, 12:24:41 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 11, 2007, 11:55:51 AM
If I read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_cycle
correctly, the ratio of oxygen release from land to oxygen release from oceans is 165 to 135. That puts the oceans at 135/300 = 45%


Garland,

Your reference states that those numbers are merely the estimate of an individual.

Given a +- margin of error, the numbers could easily be reversed. ;D
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