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paul cowley

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Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« on: November 01, 2006, 06:48:30 PM »
We, Love Golf Design, just peeled away the many layers of topdressing on the first green in the courses restoration, and I cannot tell you how exciting it is.
All of us have played the course the last 25 years or so, and as much as we enjoy the open and laid back experience, the greens just were not what we suspected they were when first built....I would describe most of them as 3000 sq'  pushed up domes with few natural tie ins to the surrounding mounding and features. Quirky.
Originally we took the job to help facilitate the club in a rework that was much needed, as the club had a declining membership etc, when...out of nowhere, a complete set of original Ross drawings came to light, courtesy of a older member.
We had no idea they ever existed....the previous thinking was that this was one of his whistle stop courses and routings that utilized the local talent to construct the course ......with very little direct guidance from Ross himself.

With the plans we were able to conjecture that it should be [hopefully] easy to just peel away the newer sand additives to get back to the original push-up top layer of the green, and then add improvements from there.

....well we were right, as the original pushups were capped by a layer of black organic sands, almost sand/muck, which I'm sure was added to help retain moisture for the seed bed and green [the course was built in 1937 and we have found no greens drainage as of yet]. In many places over two feet of topdressing was removed.

We knew the greens had shrunk by 60 to 70%, but we had no idea if the greens were built according to the detailed plans.............and what we found today [on at least this first green], was that they probably were.

.... and if the rest of these greens are similar to the one we exposed today, then I am willing to state here and now that these greens complexes will rival the best that Ross has done with dead flat land and purely push up greens.

I really think they will be that good, and I kind of feel like those folks do when they are sitting in a stream panning for gold.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2006, 07:25:41 PM by paul cowley »
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wsmorrison

Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 07:01:41 PM »
That's great news, Paul.  Funny how archival material shows up when least expected.  I'm glad for you guys that it was before much work was done.  

Tom Paul and I stopped by Brunswick on our way to meet you a year or so ago.  We found the course by accident while trying in vain to get on that island of yours.  That may have been during my directional challenge period.  I'm taking medication for it now and am doing much better.  But I did scare Tom into buying a car with satellite navigation.  Once we got on the island it only took us about an hour or so more to find the Lodge where you were nice and cozy with drink in hand chatting with Bobsy Crosby.

Please keep us updated on your efforts there.  Photos would be nice.

A.G._Crockett

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 09:34:49 PM »
Paul,
I've played Brunswick, and had heard that you guys were going to work on it.  I had NOT heard about drawings surfacing; that is wonderful and exciting.  I know that will be a labor of love (no pun intended) for the organization, given the location.  Hopefully, the work will put the club back on the map a bit in that area/market.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Dunlop_White

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2006, 12:01:58 AM »
Congratulations! This is very exciting news! I'll be down 11/24 through 11/27, and may get Dr. Huitt Mattox to take me for a visit.

A.G._Crockett

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 07:42:27 AM »
Paul,
Any idea of the time frame of the work?  When will the course be fully reopened and the work completed?
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

paul cowley

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 08:29:59 AM »
AG....10 months or so....the clubhouse probably longer [I decided yesterday to offer my services in its re design as it really should reflect the era that relates to the courses original construction......ie Great Gatsby meets the Low Country...we will see].

Hey, come on down and hang around ;).
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

A.G._Crockett

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 08:36:36 AM »
When I went through that clubhouse a couple of years ago, I thought it was the single most out of place and time building I had ever seen.  First of all, it didn't match the course at all, and secondly it was clearly built when the club was booming, and now vastly larger than there is any justification for.  On top of all of that, it is a period piece of and architectural style that has died and will not be missed.

What are you doing to it?
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

BCrosby

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 08:41:08 AM »
Paul -

Great news. A couple of questions/thoughts.

- What were the date of the Ross drawings and when was his visit? 1937 sounds very late for both. Could the drawings date to the '20's? Ross actively working on a course in the 30's in GA is pretty unusual. Did the Great Depression skip Brunswick?

- In researching Athens CC, stuff kept coming out of people's closets. It was wild. Be sure to ask around for old scorecards. In the absence of better written records, they can be a gold mine.

- Go to the GA State archive web site. They have aerials of your area from the 30's, 40's and up to last year. The US Archive in DC will also have '38 War Department aerials of Brunswick. Those aerials will nail down what was there right after construction.

- We discovered in Athens - to my surprise - that they tried very hard to build to Ross's drawings. Many of the people doing it had never seen a golf course before, but what the hey.... I suspect that they built one of the greens 180 degrees from the way Ross wanted it. But damn if they didn't try.

- Try to restore not just the green side bunkering, but the fw bunkering as well. Virtually all of the fw bunkering at Athens is now gone. That's about 50 bunkers. Their restoration would be key. I suspect that would be true at Brunswick too.

- Have you checked with the Tufts Archive in Pinehurst for materials? They may have a lot of stuff. Give them a call. They'll tell you what they have and you can order copies. They could use your support.

Good luck.  

Bob
« Last Edit: November 02, 2006, 08:53:44 AM by BCrosby »

paul cowley

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2006, 08:59:28 AM »
Bob.....the dates are clearly on the plans and the work was carried out over a two year period in the mid thirtys, plus or minus my memory.
John Mackenzie I'm sure will verify the history of the course and our efforts to date and maybe answer some of the other questions popping up as well.....thanks John  ;D.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2006, 09:03:16 AM by paul cowley »
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

michael j fay

Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2006, 09:06:17 AM »
Paul:

The plans that you have:

Are they on the normal graph paper that Ross uduslly drew on?

I remember a set of plans (that were fairly detailed) that were drawn on plain paper and were very helpful in discovering the orginal parameters of the green.

The Tufts Archives has nothing on Brunswick that will help with your efforts.

Best of luck with the project.

paul cowley

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2006, 09:12:31 AM »
AG....as yet I have done nothing but offer my services.

I understand that some preliminary plans have been drawn that are a little more contemporary than the period I would envision....I have not seen them.

You are right about the existing 60's something clubhouse...... almost anything would be an improvement.

From the few pictures I've seen, expanding on the design of the original clubhouse would be a good place to start.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2006, 07:27:18 PM by paul cowley »
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

paul cowley

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2006, 09:22:37 AM »
Michael...thanks and yes they are on a graph combined with type written notes....John can elaborate.

Maybe we could post some of them here if our CAD man Victor could figure out how to do it ;D. [but then we would have to start posting pics of our recent 'new' work, and then we would be so over run with new course requests that work would cease to be fun, Davis would have to quit his other day job just to keep up etc.....so maybe we might not afterall]. ;)
« Last Edit: November 02, 2006, 09:55:48 AM by paul cowley »
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BCrosby

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2006, 09:26:37 AM »
Paul -

If there is a question about your group getting the go-ahead for the work, I know four or five bouncers at some Buckhead bars that enjoy travelling and can make things happen.

Helpfully,  Bob

J_McKenzie

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2006, 11:38:32 AM »
I've not had the opportunity to read any of the post on this thread, but Paul let me know that he had volunteered me to give a brief history of the course, based upon our research.  I am travelling, but will try to provide an update soon.

We are excited about this project and it very well may turn out to be one of our company's greatest learning experiences.  

John

michael j fay

Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2006, 11:40:24 AM »
Paul:

Can you digitalize the drawings, the Tufts Archives would love to add them to the collection.

Thanks.

Dunlop_White

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2006, 02:40:44 PM »
Yes, when you are finished, that would make a nice addition to the Tufts Archives. Thanks for considering!

Tufts Archives
Attn: Audrey Moriarty
PO Box 159
Pinehurst, NC 28370

paul cowley

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2006, 02:41:09 PM »
Michael....I think Tufts is going to end up with the originals.
We are working from copies.
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

michael j fay

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2006, 02:46:36 PM »
Thanks Paul.

MJFay

TEPaul

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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2006, 05:35:01 PM »
Paul:

What you probably need to do is get in touch with Mel Lucas. I'll give you his number. The man is a real golf architectural archaeologist. He was just at a real old evolutionary course in North Carolina doing a lot of what you just did on the first green at Brunswick C.C. It just blew his mind putting together the meaning of all the old layering and how much of it there was. He photographed every bit of it and you guys need to do the same thing. This is real history, man, it's the real deal. I want those photos of layering and such for the USGA's new architectural archive initiative.

Did you happen to find any moldering Union soldiers under that first green Paul?

J_McKenzie

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2006, 06:03:25 PM »
Better late than never for getting to this post.  From our actual renovation report to Brunswick Country Club:

"An Early History of the Golf Course

Before we look toward the future for the golf course at Brunswick Country Club, we feel it is important to look back at its past.  The following is a summary of numerous articles we researched in The Brunswick News:

The existing golf course at Brunswick Country Club began as a nine hole course that opened in 1936 on the site of the present-day front nine.  It was considered an easy course, one that was short in length and featured no hazards other than rough.  Within its first two years of operation, the club’s board of governors decided to add a “back nine” to the course and contracted with renowned golf course architect Donald Ross to provide the design.  Mr. Ross came to Brunswick to visit the site and by March 19, 1938, he had drawn-up the required plans for constructing the nine additional holes for the club.  

Actual construction on the new holes began the second week of June, 1938.  The work was performed by WPA and was headed by R. H. Pittman, an engineer with WPA.  More than 100 laborers were used to build the nine-hole course which was completed and grassed by the first of November, although it wouldn’t be ready for play until the spring of 1939.  During construction, Donald Ross made one site visit to inspect the work in progress.  He was on site for two days, September 15-16, 1938, and expressed himself as “delighted” with what he saw.  He also said the construction was being carried out in “excellent style” and that the course “would compare favorably with the best courses in the south.”  It was on this visit that Mr. Ross toured the original nine holes in order to make recommendations for its improvement.  His recommendations included:  adding length, adding bunkers, creating several new green sites, and designing all new greens.  Mr. Ross then drew up these recommendations in a second set of design plans.

In November 1938, work began on rebuilding the original nine holes.  This work continued throughout the winter and into the summer of 1939.  On April 27, 1939 (Memorial Day), the club officially opened the back nine with a small tournament that consisted of 60 players.  The front nine was also used, although it was closed again the following day to continue with repairs.  The course received high praise from the membership and was described as an “unusually sporty course.”  

Work on the front nine continued into the late summer and on Labor Day 1939, all eighteen holes of the new Donald Ross designed Brunswick Country Club were officially opened.    

This brief history is important because it allows us to establish the role Donald Ross played in designing the golf course.  It now becomes very clear that Mr. Ross designed all 18 holes, instead of just 9 holes as he is officially accredited.  It proves that he made at least two visits to the site and was personally involved in reviewing the course while it was under construction.  It reveals that he held the course in high regard.  Finally, it validates as authentic the existing copies of Ross’ original design sketches of the course that we believe should serve as the cornerstone for any substantial renovation program."

The plans that Paul refers to are incredible.  We (one of the club's members) have all of Ross' original hand sketches on graph paper (greens only), we also have another copy of these same sketches as re-drawn by one of Ross' draftsmen, and finally we have the original typed notes from Ross, on the old onion-skin paper, that detailed the changes he wanted to make on the original nine holes.  The typed notes are really fascinating-  they describe specific design details such as the angle of slopes, width of fairways and where they should start, the exact yardage at which to "elbow" the fairway, types of grassing, construction techniques, etc.  They even denote areas where clumps of trees should be planted to provide separation between adjacent holes (I know that may surprise some on here).

I'll try to post updates from time to time if anyone is interested and we'd love to post some photos if someone can explain in simple terms how that is accomplished.

Thanks,  John



michael j fay

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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2006, 10:53:49 AM »
Wonderful research John.

Tell me about the bunkering on the course, specifically all the bunkers that were not greenside.

I suspect that most if not all of the fairway bunkers were removed.

The bones are very good at Brunswick. With the bones and the plans, Paul Cowley will make this course shine once again.

A.G._Crockett

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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2006, 07:18:45 PM »
This is wonderful. :)
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Gary Daughters

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2006, 09:07:18 PM »

John,

If you still need the method for posting photographs please IM me and I will happily walk you through it.

This is great, great stuff!
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J_McKenzie

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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2006, 11:11:02 AM »
Michael J. Fay,

There really isn't any information in the plans about fairway bunkers, except at hole #10, which is just a diagram.  On the current back nine, the nine that is all original, there is a single fairway bunker on holes #10, #11, #12, #13, and #18. There are two fairway cross bunkers, even with each other, at hole #14, a par-5.  The only place where it looks like a bunker has been removed is short left of the green at the par-5 12th, however there is no mention of it in the plans or his notes.

On the current front nine, which he redesigned, there are two "double face" bunkers mentioned in his notes to separate holes #1-#2 and holes #2-#3, all parallel fairways.  There is even a diagram in the plans showing these bunkers, but we are not sure they were ever built (there is no evidence on the ground like at #12).  We assume these bunkers would have been in the landing areas during his era and served a strategy purpose.  This is no longer the case, nor can it be, and at this time, we are not planning to add them (also a budget issue, construction and maintenance).  These holes are also where Ross called for tree planting, which is what currently separates the holes, along with a small pond between #1 tees and #2 fairway and green.  Only two holes on the front have fairway bunkers, #5 and #9 which are both par-4's, and these bunkers are included in his notes.  He describes the location (both short of the green) and size for these bunkers.  Currently, the biggest strategic features on the front nine are open drainage ditches that cross several fairway landing areas- not sure if they would have had as big an impact back in the Ross era.

John    
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J_McKenzie

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Re:Brunswick CC [Ross] is a black dirt goldmine...
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2006, 11:18:39 AM »
From Ross' notes concerning the bunkers at Brunswick CC:

"All the outlines on the greens and bunkers should be irregular, avioding any straight or abrupt lines.  Bunker faces shall not be of such height above natural ground to obstruct vision of green."

Good stuff.  Wonder what he thought of Raynor's work?

John
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