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David_Tepper

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The 9-hole Aetna Springs golf course in Pope Valley (east of Napa Valley) has been open for play for over 100 years. It has promoted itself as "Golf, The Way It Used To Be" for many years.

It has been closed since August for a major face-lift, overseen by Mr. T. Doak. It is expected to re-open next Spring.

Some of us SF Bay Area GCA-ers are more than a little interested to know what is going on up there. What can be told?

www.aetnasprings.com

 

Brad Tufts

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bump....this sounds interesting...the pics make it look like Marion GC in CA....any info out there?
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Evan_Green

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I had the chance to play this course about 6 months ago or so. First of all, it's really in the boonies.

The course is surrounded by pretty much nothing - pastoral setting - very much a time warp - the same way the land was there 50-100 years ago.

The round was a neat experience. Price was sure right- I think it was about $12. There were only two other golfers on the course - felt very isolated.

I found it to be more of a great golf experience than a great golf course, but I thoroughly enjoyed the experience, because it's like no other course that I know of in the Bay Area - a great deal of rustic charm. Simple "old school" type golf. All that was missing was sheep.

Will be interested to see what transpires.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2006, 10:32:01 PM by Evan_Green »

Mike Benham

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... it's really in the boonies.


Evan - You don't know how close you were to a classic pun but I believe the property is still owned by the famous Rev. Sun Myung Moon aka The Moonies ...


And Tom likes to work in remote places ... perhaps the area will expand and become a destination resort.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2006, 02:02:38 AM by Mike Benham »
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Sean_Tully

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I played out there just before the work was started it was 108 degrees and there was just two of us on the course after a shotgun event in the am. The course was short which is to be understood from the time frame the course is from. From what I have gathered from photos and some time on the course with Jeff the Super at the time, was that the earlier course was further away from the current clubhouse as they had a bottleing plant that was located to the left of the current 1st green. That and you can see some of the old sand greens that were abandoned at some point over by the resovoirs. The greens were rather small and simple circles that were ever so slightly raised.

I could not find my old photos of the course from this summer otherwise I would post them. I did make a trip there this last weekend while I was volunteering at Sonoma. I met George(I hope I got that right, I am not good with names), from Doak's crew and watched them as they added sand to the green at #3. They had finally gotten the permit to work on the 4th hole that is a short hole that plays up into a canyon. It was an orignal hole from the earlier course that was abandoned at some point. Anyway, onto the pictures.


View of the 1st green from just short of the green shows a creek bed that runs in front of the green and to the right.


View of the tee shot at the 3rd hole. THe green is in the upper left hand corner. Shows some of the work in the fwy of some bunkers in the distance.


Rough shape of a fwy bunker on the third hole.


Nearly done bunker. hard to tell from picture but the portion in the foreground is a lower than the rest of the bunker.


View from the tee at the 4th hole up a canyon to the green. This was one of the abandoned holes.


View from the tee at the 5th hole. This tee had been abandoned for a period of time as well and is being back into play. The green is just under the black plastic in the distance between the two trees and under their drip line!!!


The 6th green is at the end of this road. It has an old abandoned sand green to its right.


Close up of the greensite. The foreground is the remnants of the old sand green.


A close look at the creek bed that will come into play on the 8th. The green is off to the right between the two trees and is rather small.


View of the 9th green under construction. Bunkers are in foreground with more in the fwy short of the green.

They have made some changes to the proposed routing since I was last out there. The 1st and 9th holes have been shifted and the clubhouse will get built in a new area. they also shifted the 2nd tee and 3rd green. When I get around to it I will scan  a layout that I picked up while there.

The neat part about Aetna is the old Maybeck buildings that are in different stages of disrepair. Some very interesting buildings from around the early part of the 1890's when Maybeck first got out to CA. They need a lot of work, but if restored they can be something special.
Looking forward to seeing the course soon to see the progress.

Tully

David_Tepper

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Sean T. -

Thanks very much for the pics! As usual, you are the man on the scene.

DT

Brad Tufts

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Thanks for the pics Sean....

Looks like an early candidate for "To the Nines Vol. II"...
« Last Edit: October 31, 2006, 09:50:19 AM by Brad Tufts »
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Tom_Doak

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Sean:

Nice pictures; I took some myself a week ago but have not had time to post anything.

The renovation of the nine hole Aetna Springs course is part of a larger proposed project which would include a new 18-hole course about two miles away.  That one is still in the permitting stage.

In the meantime, we've had fun renovating the nine.  As Sean explained, the routing as of last spring was not the original course ... the holes had been crammed together over the years to reduce maintenance costs.  It was VERY tight, must've been a shooting gallery when it was busy.

We are adding three holes on "new" ground, but in fact all of that ground was part of the golf course many years ago.  They recently found a great old picture of the little par-3 fourth hole up the canyon -- we had no idea that was a "restoration" at the time we routed it.

It's been a fun little project for Jim Urbina and for George Waters and Kyle Franz and Will Smith who are doing all the shaping work.  Nothing too fancy -- tiny greens, maybe 20 bunkers but nicely detailed, a little stream in play on several holes, some beautiful live oaks, and less than 3000 yards long.  A fun place to take your family but with enough intrigue for a match with your friends.

The old resort "camp" is proposed to be restored for members of the new complex -- the buildings are unlike anything I've ever seen.


David_Tepper

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Tom D. -

The buildings of the Aetna Springs Resort are listed in the National Reigster of Historic Places. Their design is attributed to the firm of Farr & Ward. There is some speculation that Bernard Maybeck and/or some of his students (including Julia Morgan) may have taken part in the deisgn.  

Can you tell us anything about the planned new 18-hole course - will it be public? private? resort? Any idea on the timetable for the permitting process?

Thanks.

DT
« Last Edit: October 31, 2006, 08:06:18 PM by David_Tepper »

Sean_Tully

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Here are some of my pictures from August.


This is the clubhouse.


This is one of the entrances of the old resort.


View from behind the old 1st green. Gives one an idea to the size, shape, and contour of the greens.


View from tee of the old 7th(new 5th) that shows that they did some needed tree removal. The red flag in the background is the green.


The old 7th(New5th) showing how close the trees are to the green.



The old main hotel. As Tom mentioned the buildings are definately different. They actually moved this building to its current location at some point pretty early on. That tree is huge and has support beams to prop it up and protect the building. The buildings are in dire need of attention!


One of the old greens is surrounded in a half circle by these trees. Depending on the age of the trees that is some pretty serious framing early on. This is between the 6 and 7th holes of the new holes. The green is in the shade. It is hard to tell but there is a level area not more that 30 feet in circumference.


Tully

T_MacWood

I look forward to seeing how this little club progresses. There something appealing about a good nine hole course with a modest clubhouse (in a remote and beautiful spot)...it reminds me of the Carthage Club.

Tom_Doak

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David:

Two of the buildings in the camp are indeed Maybeck's, in fact there is some speculation that they were his first commissions to be built.

The little pro shop pictured is not within the boundaries of the historic preservation zone.  It will be preserved for something, but they will most likely build a new pro shop on a different spot since we have moved the last green about 200 yards from where it was.

I can't tell you much about the permitting timetable for the new 18 holes, in this locale permitting is very difficult to predict with any certainty.  There are a couple of natural streams we want to work around and that leads to intensive review.


Patrick Kiser

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Status?
“One natural hazard, however, which is more
or less of a nuisance, is water. Water hazards
absolutely prohibit the recovery shot, perhaps
the best shot in the game.” —William Flynn, golf
course architect

David_Tepper

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Patrick K. -

Looks like the renovated original 9-hole course, along with a new clubhouse, is up & running.

The website has been updated as well.

www.aetnasprings.com 

DT

Scott Stambaugh

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Patrick K. -

Looks like the renovated original 9-hole course, along with a new clubhouse, is up & running.

The website has been updated as well.

www.aetnasprings.com 

DT

Interesting in all the discussion about Aetna (and also absent from the history section on their website) is the fact that no one has mentioned that the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church (Moonies) set up camp there in the 70's, and owned the resort for twenty years.  A lot of strange stories.

I lived in Napa for several years and went for weekend drives up there on a few occasions.  The isolation is quite creepy.  Like 'The Shining' without the snow.

I'd be interested to hear how/where Jim Urbina and Co. spent there time once the sun went down.  If I stayed on that property during construction, I'd need some heavy doses of Napa Cab to get to sleep at night...

Tom_Doak

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Scott:

The boys stayed at a condo in Yountville during construction, not up in the camp, sadly.

I played the nine holes for a small event earlier this summer.  I thought it turned out very cool, in an understated way.

David_Tepper

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Tom D. -

What is the status of the new 18-hole course/club planned for a couple of miles down the road from Aetna Springs? Is it still going thru the permitting process? Any idea when you will be breaking ground?

DT

Tom_Doak

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David:

I believe there is a permitting hearing in December.

They have tentatively planned to break ground in April of '09, but the way things have been going lately, ANY groundbreaking ANYWHERE must be viewed as "tentative".  Still, they've been working a long time on those permits, and if they finally get them I would hope they follow through.

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