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SPDB

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C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« on: October 17, 2006, 12:55:39 PM »
As part of a Links Mag promo, I received the following email and thought I would pass it along.

Might be interesting to check out if in the area (and if you can deal with the requisite accompanying real estate pitch).

John C?




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John_Conley

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2006, 01:06:21 PM »
I hadn't seen this.  Thanks for sharing.
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SPDB

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2006, 01:08:02 PM »
JC -
No sweat, but sharing it was on the condition that, if you go, you share with us.
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Tim Copeland

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2006, 01:21:53 PM »
I rode by the place the other day....Faldo/Smyers is also building one right up the road.....Bella Collina.

The tee, green and turn poles are out and it looks like not much more has been done.
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John_Conley

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2006, 01:22:25 PM »
I might be able to make it.  I've seen the site.  A niece piece of property.
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Steve Lang

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2006, 01:36:12 PM »
 8)

I never thought there were any "Mountains" in FLA..
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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2006, 02:13:02 PM »
The routing of the course (sans bunkers, I'm assuming):

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Dale_McCallon

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2006, 02:29:23 PM »
I bet it will be the best course in Florida since.....ever.
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Jason Blasberg

Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2006, 02:40:01 PM »
The back nine routng got me dizzy just following it!  What's with the circles . . . I'll fall down by 16 (and not from the heat) ;)  
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Jason Blasberg

Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2006, 02:41:28 PM »
Quote from: Dale_McCallon on October 17, 2006, 02:29:23 PM
I bet it will be the best course in Florida since.....ever.

But will they have the "Best French Fries in New York . . ."

C'mon Dale, let's see 'em build the thing first . . .    
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Steve Lapper

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2006, 02:50:16 PM »
Guys,

   I have a RE project in this area and believe it or not, the land moves quite considerably. Elevation changes here are rather dramatic for Florida and the routing is a product of a measure of land heaves, shifts, and wetlands along with view planes and residential siting. This site sits above the nearby Bella Collina, Ginn Resorts development

   I'll try to wander around there sometime in the future and report back.
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Bill_McBride

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2006, 02:51:24 PM »
I'm sure this routing is all conceptual, but it's interesting they show the big knocker cutting the corner on dogleg left #9 but not on the absolutely parallel #16!  Maybe the big hitter is dizzy by then (following Jason's whimsey above!).  ;)
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Craig Disher

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2006, 04:04:02 PM »
The residential areas appear to be shielded somewhat from the gc - at least most holes aren't through residential corridors.

It's ironic that these new communities emphasize their fitness centers and walking/biking trails but intend to restrict walking on the golf course to "certain days and times."
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SPDB

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2006, 04:27:43 PM »
Quote from: Jason Blasberg on October 17, 2006, 02:40:01 PM
The back nine routng got me dizzy just following it!  What's with the circles . . . I'll fall down by 16 (and not from the heat) ;)  
Jason -
Have you played Pine Valley? On what hole did you fall down from dizziness there?
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John_Conley

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2006, 05:50:58 PM »
Quote from: Jason Blasberg on October 17, 2006, 02:40:01 PM
The back nine routng got me dizzy just following it!  What's with the circles . . . I'll fall down by 16 (and not from the heat) ;)  

Is it that bad?  A three-hole loop followed by a four-hole loop followed by an out-and-back.  It never crosses itself and it never intrudes on the other nine.
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Kyle Harris

Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2006, 06:06:02 PM »
Not surprised at all at the location. Mountain Lake is located next to the Bok Tower Gardens which are on the highest point in peninsular Florida. Coincidentally, looks like Mountain Lake is about an hour or so south of Clermont.

Heck, all one has to do is make a right out of the Mountain Lake compound and not turn to get there.
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ward peyronnin

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2006, 06:07:54 PM »
Gents

I noticed this about 6 months ago and have heard the sales pitch and been invited to be in the pre sale selection elect.
Either they are selling or they lost my #.

I heard that RE around Orlando is pretty slow; and with a another development right down the road? I read some bad reviews of Lake Anona(?sp) I like the C&C angle but don't the houses still look pretty confining around the GC?

Would still be interested in hearing on the ground reports

Thanks
Ward P
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John_Conley

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2006, 06:39:41 PM »
Quote from: ward peyronnin on October 17, 2006, 06:07:54 PM
I heard that RE around Orlando is pretty slow; and with a another development right down the road? I read some bad reviews of Lake Anona(?sp) I like the C&C angle but don't the houses still look pretty confining around the GC?

Ward. Lake Apopka.  The only problem is the location as the city hasn't grown that direction.  I think I'll join and love playing golf there, but it will be a few years before I can even think of moving the family.  Of course, if I were relocated to Orlando and didn't already have ties to Winter Park it would be a much easier decision.
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Craig Disher

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2006, 09:36:37 PM »
Ward,
Here's a site plan for another of LandMar's developments. Now this is a gc with some confining residential homesites.



The plan for Sugarloaf looks a lot better.
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Jason Blasberg

Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2006, 09:59:52 PM »
Quote from: SPDB on October 17, 2006, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Jason Blasberg on October 17, 2006, 02:40:01 PM
The back nine routng got me dizzy just following it!  What's with the circles . . . I'll fall down by 16 (and not from the heat) ;)  
Jason -
Have you played Pine Valley? On what hole did you fall down from dizziness there?

Sad to say I've not had the opportunity to get dizzy there.  :'(
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2006, 12:08:38 AM »
I am a fan of C&C as are most of us on here. They are promoting this project hard. I get something every other week. I hope it succeeds.
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Sally Livingston

Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2006, 09:53:55 PM »
Is anybody going to this event tomorrow morning?
Crenshaw, Coore and MG Orender are scheduled to walk the course at 9:30.
How lucky can we be to finally get a C&C in Orlando!!?
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John_Conley

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2006, 10:55:58 PM »
Quote from: Sally Livingston on October 26, 2006, 09:53:55 PM
Is anybody going to this event tomorrow morning?
Yes.
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2006, 10:58:31 PM »
john I am going to go see it in late January the week of the PGA show.
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Tim Bert

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Re:C&C Presentation at Sugarloaf (FL) Groundbreaking - 10/27
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2006, 11:03:00 PM »
I'm assuming those brown patches are streets with home - or are those some type of waste areas.

If this is a neighborhood course, have C&C done any others?
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