[Chris_Clouser]

This is for our folks in Australia.  

A friend of mine from work is married to an Asst Super at a local Troon managed course and they are moving back to Australia and he got a gig at this course.

Can anyone give me any info about it?

I looked at the website but there isn't a lot there.

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Chris, whereabouts in Australia is this?  I played a course called Pacific in the suburbs of Brisbane in 1988.  I wasn't up to it - huge carries over ravines on long two- and three-shot holes.  It was one of the courses that Greg Norman beat up in his teens.

[James Bennett]

Mark

Pacific is a club in the s-e suburbs of Brisbane.  Your recollection of the water carries is consistent with my one visit many years ago.

Chris

Pacific Harbour is a new course (I think) on the way north of Brisbane, just before the Sunshine coast.  I think it is near Bribie Island.

I'm sure Andrew Thompson will have some local knowledge of what is going on.  Plus some of the archies.  Can't recall who the architect was, although Queensland developments were reviewed in the Australian Golf Course Supts magazine about a year ago.  I'll see what I can find there.

The weather will be very Florida like - hot and humid coming up for Christmas.

James B

[James Bennett]

The architect is Ross Watson.  Pacific Harbour is near Bribie Island.  A one page summary from the Aust Turf Magazine is linked below, including turf types that have been planted.

I think there are nearby residential developments, but do not know how that is linked/integrated into the course.

http://www.agcsa.com.au/guests/atm_articles/6_4d.html

James B

[Matthew Mollica]

A friend of mine from work is married to an Asst Super at a local Troon managed course and they are moving back to Australia and he got a gig at this course.

Can anyone give me any info about it?

Pac Harbour has recently opened (mid-July?)

The course is indeed on Bribie Island, a small island just off the coast a short drive north of Brisbane.

As James suggested, it is a Ross Watson design. It is part of a property development on the Island. The course features a few nice holes, but like many courses in Qld, it is built on flat, swampy land, with little movement. The disappointing thing for me was the set of short 4s. Most looked a good measure on the card (tempting driver length), but they were almost devoid of strategic options.

Click for more discussion on Pac Harbour.

http://www.iseekgolf.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=13796&hl=Harbour

Matthew

[Andrew Thomson]

http://www.ozgolf.net/modules.php?name=Reviews&file=viewarticle&id=3

Review here.

Its not much good but has a big budget and will see plenty of public play.

PS: keep in the that the above link is to a review written somewhat 'tongue in cheek'  

There a few missed oppotunities based on whats in the ground there now, but its nothing to cry about because the course was never going to be much good anyway.

[Richard Chamberlain]

Andrew...ahh that old nugget.."missed opportunities"...I love that term.
I understand you wrote that review "tongue in cheek". You sure had me fooled...I thought you genuiniely liked the place. You've either held back your real thoughts, in trying not to sledge the design firm (which you've never done before so not sure why you would do that) or you've heard a few negative comments about the place from others and you've done a backflip and are going with the cool crowd.
Its really ok mate..it is uncool to like a resort course...go with the crowd again.

As for missed opportunities, its was one of the most boring, flattest, lifeless pieces of ground imaginable...I reckon we milked it for all its worth.

[Andrew Thomson]

Rich,

I like the place.  Especially compared to whats on offer around Brisbane in comparison.

Regarding missed opportunities.  The 2nd is a perfect example.  A short Par 4 with no strategy from the tee whatsover, finsished off with a wickedly undulating green.  You know my thoughts on other holes like 6,16,17 to name a few....

I wrote it the day I played it for the first time, and fully expected the place to be complete junk when I showed up. It wasn't complete junk and I was suitably impressed.

I did write in Tongue in cheek, is the Doak comparison still in there  

Wasn't the site sand based?  Was it REALLY that bad?  In comparison to somewhere like Sanctuary Lakes, or Hope Island and Sanctuary Cove....

Edit: Oh and you might recall, a few things were edited out of the original review due to complaints from a CAD Operator at Ross Watson Design suggesting the author was a 'glass half empty' man and was being a bit too harsh!

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