[Jordan Wall]

After playing this course here is my opinion...

...decent, fun course, really not bad.

Mounds are stupid and are totally contrived.  Bunkering was OK, but I was really dissapointed that the main bunkering didn't actually come from the dunes.  The greens were decent, say for the fact they were frozen.  I was totally bummed when I got to hole seven and to the left of it I saw huge sand dunes for a long ways but not at all used.  30$ so I didnt actually spend too much...whatever...

Also, holes 1, 2, 5, and 11 were dumb dumb dumb...two looks good picture-wise but is dumb and 11 has a huge eight foot grass pit beside it that was supposed to be a bunker...bad!!

Tell me, what went wrong here

[Garland Bayley]

Rees Jones

[Garland Bayley]

Actually Jordan, it would probably be better if you went back and read the old threads on Sandpines instead of starting that argument all over again.

[Brad Klein]

Jordan, didn't anyone tell you this particular course is "Verboten" as discussion material here on GCA? You have no idea about the worms and layers of unconscious gunk that now threaten to be unleashed on all sides. It's like dropping beef carcesses into pirahna-filled water.

[Bill_McBride]

Jordan says, "after playing this course here is my opinion...
...decent, fun course, really not bad."

Talk about damning with faint praise!  That's the last nice thing you had to say about the place.  

So that mystery is laid to rest at last.  

[Jordan Wall]

Jordan, didn't anyone tell you this particular course is "Verboten" as discussion material here on GCA? You have no idea about the worms and layers of unconscious gunk that now threaten to be unleashed on all sides. It's like dropping beef carcesses into pirahna-filled water.

Probably.

The thing I just didn't understand was how half the holes were awesome and the other half was as stupid as I've ever seen

[Garland Bayley]

OK Jordan, now you've gone and done it. Which half of the holes were "as stupid" as you have ever seen, and why?

[Jordan Wall]

Jordan says, "after playing this course here is my opinion...
...decent, fun course, really not bad."

Talk about damning with faint praise!  That's the last nice thing you had to say about the place.  

So that mystery is laid to rest at last.  

I had fun because I was first off and played with a couple celebrating their 40th wedding anniversary

I didnt have fun playing holes with contrived mounds next to 50-100 ft sand dunes...

...seriously, I was walking off the course and on to dunes on the seventh hole

[Jordan Wall]

OK Jordan, now you've gone and done it. Which half of the holes were "as stupid" as you have ever seen, and why?

1 was stupid...big (and fake) mounds on either side of the fairway which isnt appealing

2 was really stupid...fakish water hazard to a green complex that has a grass bunker where it would have been better if it was a real bunker--as Ress had it originally

5 was dumb dumb dumb dumb...no water hazards in that location except a view of the ocean, geez...dumb dumb dumb

10 was horrible...see my description of hole #1

11 was too...I already mentioned the fake grass pit

didnt like 13...just a stupid hole, IMHO

or 15...fake mounds (again0, to a fairway where bunkers are on the right...yet they should be on the left side to guard the better angle

thats seven out of eighteen...

...given the land I should have loved all those holes but man it was...ummm, contrived contrived contrived when it could have been so good

[Garland Bayley]

Why was 2 really stupid?

[peter_p]

Potential, squandered. Doesn't live up to the view from the double-wide.

Jordan,
What is the state of construction of the projected clubhouse?

[Jordan Wall]

Potential, squandered. Doesn't live up to the view from the double-wide.

Jordan,
What is the state of construction of the projected clubhouse?

Coming nicely, right on some dunes actually..

...IMO thats where the course should be...on dunes...but its looking good

service was great too, just the course, well, read above

[Garland Bayley]

...
5 was dumb dumb dumb dumb...no water hazards in that location except a view of the ocean, geex...dumb dumb dumb
...

What does this comment mean? The Oregon dunes have lots of lakes and ponds. So finding one at Sandpines should not be extraordinary.

[peter_p]

Jordan,
Where is it in relation to the current clubhouse?

[Jordan Wall]

...
5 was dumb dumb dumb dumb...no water hazards in that location except a view of the ocean, geez...dumb dumb dumb
...

What does this comment mean? The Oregon dunes have lots of lakes and ponds. So finding one at Sandpines should not be extraordinary.

This is not natural.  Its is contrived as is most of the course.  The hole was not very appealing at all.  I mean, this pond was put there, and it would have been better as native grasses or even better big sand dunes

Also, Peter, the new clubhouse sits about 10 feet behind the small one they are currently using.  It is big and very nice.

[Garland Bayley]

...I mean, this pond was put there, and it would have been better as native grasses or even better big sand dunes
...

So you would prefer a blind shot over a big sand dune to a penal carry across a pond into the prevailing wind?

[Jordan Wall]

...I mean, this pond was put there, and it would have been better as native grasses or even better big sand dunes
...

So you would prefer a blind shot over a big sand dune to a penal carry across a pond into the prevailing wind?

Garland, honestly...

...fake water or a huge sand dune...

...who would choose the fake water??  Nobody I know.  Did you like the hole??

[Garland Bayley]

I felt 5 is a pretty average hole. I prefer it over water than blind over a huge sand dune.  Don't let me give you to hard a time. I felt Sandpines was contrived too. I hated 18. Why do I need a hole inspired by 18 PB when there was is much interesting golf landscape available. I notice 18 at DR by JN in the SH of NE does 18 PB too. As a lefty, the farther right I try to hit it, the more I come out to in and slice into such hazards.

I did like #2 and the previous threads on Sandpines had its supporters too. Remember, #2 and #5 are in the pines portion of the course.

[Jordan Wall]

Yea Garland you are right.

Maybe its me still frustrated about the lack of a course when the land is so good with a decent architect.

I thought 18 was alright.  I hit 5-iron into it and birdied.

It just...could have been...

[Michael Dugger]

How old are you again Jordan?

Even a ___ year old can see that Sandpines was a wasted opportunity.

So sad

[Jordan Wall]

How old are you again Jordan?

Even a ___ year old can see that Sandpines was a wasted opportunity.

So sad

15 year old.....

.....they need Doak to redo the whole thing or C&C or something!

...how many of you think it could have been like Bandon Trails is now??  Having never played BT but seen the Sandpines land it really makes me wonder...

[PThomas]

I vow to make only one post this time re Sandpines:

I was VERY disappointed

I am so sorry I wasted my time playing it instead of staying for another game at Bandon or elsewhere

I cannot see why anyone would recommend it to anyone

the picture one always sees of it with the sand dune has to be one of the most deceptive pictures in golf

the end!

[Joe Hancock]

15 year old.....

.....they need Doak to redo the whole thing or C&C or something!

Jordan,

You're way too young to paint with such a small brush.

Joe

[A_Clay_Man]

Jordan - Can you confirm there are sand dunes directly adjacent to the the golf course? If so, On how many holes?

[John Kavanaugh]

I cannot see why anyone would recommend it to anyone

My new found friends of the Pacific Northwest think it is a good value at $60 and a very nice place to stop on the way to Bandon.  To a man, they all like the place.  I trust them...it is a feepayer paradise.

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