Mark
Agreed, I do not agree with penal for penal's sake, just to get the integrity back into the game.
Fairness is not essential..but unfairness is not architecturally sound...it is a very fine line.
I like Tom do not deem central hazards as necessarily unfair, they can be wonderfully strategic, and again bring some integrity back to the game.
I must admit though, I think a more penal rough 25/30 yards offline is also required...especailly on the PGA tour
I think that is why I like Pine Valley so much..the fairways are generous,but if you hit a bad shot way offline..it's gonna get ya
just the way the old guys intended golf to be played.
I have no problem at all with these guys hitting the ball 340 off the tee..that's talent..but if they cannot keep it on the fairway, where is the talent and skill that was so important to the early architects....some of those tee shots thatwere hit at Doral by messrs Tiger and Phil..heck they would still be looking for the balls at PV