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Jordan Wall

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2007, 10:41:47 PM »
I'd make every effort I could to come to a KP event next year if it were to happen again.

If for anything, it would be to see big Tommy again.
One of the coolest people ever.
 8)

Mike Golden

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2007, 07:04:19 AM »
the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is, that for those of us who would have to fly in, it is really, really inconvenient.  San Jose is at least a 3 1/2 hour drive to La Purisima.

As much as I enjoy getting together with everyone having that much travel time after a long flight makes it impractical for a weekend.  La Purisima is a terrific golf course, it's too bad...

scott_wood

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2007, 08:14:12 AM »
as a New Yorker ( pls note, though, UPSTATE) who had a great deal of fun as an inteloper for one KP ( and I still have the "official" GCA poster autographed by alll participants to show  for it)  might I suggest what seems possible to me......

RUSTIC.....GOOD, FUN course, at a reasonable cost with reasonable hotels nearby, they should be accomodating for tee times, weather dependable, pretty easy access for all,

it's on "southern" turf, but hey,  if it's NOrcal's turn, let them just claim it under emminent domain or adverse possession or ....

Big Picture thought: JUST DO IT.. too many people enjoy KP...

John Foley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2007, 10:18:53 AM »
As another Upstae NYer to attend this I would love a chance to get back out again.

As many know, the only way these big events happen continuously is if there is a benevolent dictator who is ultimately responsible for making it happen. It's a thankless job which takes a lot of time and patience, but the only way it happens is if one person is resonsible. He can & should have many lieutenant. You need the lead dog.

There was actually a good article in GD a year or so ago talking about this subject.

Integrity in the moment of choice

Mike Benham

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2007, 12:22:32 PM »

the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is ...



Mike -

As you know California is a very big state ... and the odds are that the next location for KP will not be near a metropolitan area.  Logistics of planning an event near LA or SF is damn near impossible if the costs are to be reasonable AND we are to get tee times at courses people want to see.

The history of the KPs reveal that driving, at a minimum of one hour or an extra stop on a plane is required ... Barona, Pasa/Pajaro, Rustic, Stevenson, Stone Eagle ...

Even the Dixie Cup events require enough driving that making it a weekend-only trip is near impossible.

And to be clear to all, the planning for the next Kings Putter rests in the hands of Tommy.  


Mike
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Andy Troeger

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2007, 02:20:15 PM »
the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is, that for those of us who would have to fly in, it is really, really inconvenient.  San Jose is at least a 3 1/2 hour drive to La Purisima.

As much as I enjoy getting together with everyone having that much travel time after a long flight makes it impractical for a weekend.  La Purisima is a terrific golf course, it's too bad...

I think this was one issue that Kalen and I ran into last year with our outing at Lakota Canyon Ranch and GC at Redlands Mesa in Western Colorado. Just no good way to get there. We had a nice time with our small group anyway, but I think that kept participation down somewhat.

Kalen Braley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2007, 02:32:32 PM »
the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is, that for those of us who would have to fly in, it is really, really inconvenient.  San Jose is at least a 3 1/2 hour drive to La Purisima.

As much as I enjoy getting together with everyone having that much travel time after a long flight makes it impractical for a weekend.  La Purisima is a terrific golf course, it's too bad...

I think this was one issue that Kalen and I ran into last year with our outing at Lakota Canyon Ranch and GC at Redlands Mesa in Western Colorado. Just no good way to get there. We had a nice time with our small group anyway, but I think that kept participation down somewhat.

I would agree Andy.  I priced flights into Grand Junction which is a small airport and it was real pricey, almost $1000 from SLC for a roundtrip.

Outside of that, I think SLC is the closest, yet still 4 hours away by car.

Garland Bayley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2007, 02:38:58 PM »
the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is, that for those of us who would have to fly in, it is really, really inconvenient.  San Jose is at least a 3 1/2 hour drive to La Purisima.

As much as I enjoy getting together with everyone having that much travel time after a long flight makes it impractical for a weekend.  La Purisima is a terrific golf course, it's too bad...

I guess I have to wonder why someone would fly to SJ on the way to La Purisima. I know I am not a CA geography expert, but wouldn't LA be a lot closer?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Kalen Braley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2007, 02:45:02 PM »
the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is, that for those of us who would have to fly in, it is really, really inconvenient.  San Jose is at least a 3 1/2 hour drive to La Purisima.

As much as I enjoy getting together with everyone having that much travel time after a long flight makes it impractical for a weekend.  La Purisima is a terrific golf course, it's too bad...

I guess I have to wonder why someone would fly to SJ on the way to La Purisima. I know I am not a CA geography expert, but wouldn't LA be a lot closer?


Garland,

I would agree with you....

But....even Burbank to Lompoc is still a 2.5 hour drive.  And you would have to roll the dice with the traffic.  Bottom line is, there is no easy way to get there.  LAX would likely add at least another hour to this drive.

For those in the know, does San Lois Obsipo have a major airport, because that would be pretty close to fly into...
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 02:46:37 PM by Kalen Braley »

Garland Bayley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2007, 02:52:23 PM »
Amtrak serves San Luis Obispo.
 :D
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

ed_getka

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2007, 03:19:22 PM »
Well, since no one is stepping up to the plate, I will get in touch with Dan King and pick a date and will hopefully let you guys know by next week what we are thinking.
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Tom Huckaby

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2007, 03:22:53 PM »
Ed - please check your IM.

There is stepping up being done, we just have to go through proper channels.. and Dan King is only one.

TH
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 03:37:32 PM by Tom Huckaby »

Kalen Braley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2007, 03:23:59 PM »
Garland,

Just in taking a quick look at United. You could fly from Portland to LAX for $263 round trip.  Or fly directly to San Louis Obsipo for only $70 more...thats not bad and would save a long car ride....  ;D

rjsimper

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2007, 03:41:34 PM »
Fresno's airport code is FAT

Somehow, that's always amused me.  I am a simple minded man.


Tom Huckaby

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2007, 03:42:23 PM »
Fresno's airport code is FAT

Somehow, that's always amused me.  I am a simple minded man.



That amuses me too.

 ;D

Garland Bayley

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2007, 04:03:34 PM »
Garland,

Just in taking a quick look at United. You could fly from Portland to LAX for $263 round trip.  Or fly directly to San Louis Obsipo for only $70 more...thats not bad and would save a long car ride....  ;D

But it's only $172 by Amtrak, with plenty of time to read the book recommendations on the other thread.
 :)
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Jesse Jones

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2007, 04:13:05 PM »
Is California our only choice?
We could make it happen in AZ.


Jesse

Gib_Papazian

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2007, 04:13:45 PM »
I am gong to throw out a suggestion - it is unrealistic, outrageous and yet another example of my inability to grasp what psychologists refer to as the: "Theory of the Mind."

If everyone can just take an extra day (i.e. fly into SFO Thursday night), the ultimate gathering place for the Treehouse (read: remote enough to avoid violating any local laws regarding disturbing the peace or drunk and disorderly conduct) is Sea Ranch.

Yes, 2 1/2 hours from SFO. On the coast, delightfully fun to play and as an added bonus, a warm-up nine at Northwood in Guerneville. For all your Mackenzie sycophants, this is a "must-see," especially for Wayne Morrison; all those indulgent and poorly arranged bunkers have been filled in.  

Getting to SLO-Town airport involves a short-hop connection for all but us CA boys. So, time-wise, it seems more rational to take advantage of major airports and blast up the coast from there.

Perhaps a silly idea . . . . .

Now, for an equally absurd notion: I'm fairly impressed by a couple of courses in the East Bay - both of which are a short drive from Oakland Airport.

Metropolitan Club is right outside the entrance to OAK and a pretty decent golf course. My friend is the president of the managing company, a Macdonald freak and might even be coaxed into joining us. For convenience, it cannot be beat - since fellowship is the *real* objective.

I'm also quite fond of Harbottle's Monarch Bay - just a short distance away. This may not float all boats as the only person at the KP at Stevinson Ranch who loves the golf course seemed to be me.

If we decide to venture to the southland and not return to Rustic, is Coronado GC a possibility? It is not great, but the location is spectacular . . . . . .    

Tom Huckaby

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2007, 04:15:39 PM »
Gents:

See Benham's post, and mine back to Ed Getka.  Tentative plans are being made.  But this is Tommy's event, so we await word from him on what he wants to do.

All I will say further - trying very hard not to step on Tommy's toes - is that if he allows the event to occur here in the North, I can promise one and all will enjoy what has been suggested to me off-line, and relayed to Tommy.  

So conjecture and suggest away if you wish.. but the reality remains this is Tommy's event, so we await word from him.

TH
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 04:17:39 PM by Tom Huckaby »

Mike Benham

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2007, 04:43:40 PM »

I guess I have to wonder why someone would fly to SJ on the way to La Purisima. I know I am not a CA geography expert, but wouldn't LA be a lot closer?



Well Garland, one of the sidebars that happens with the KP is what other courses do some of the participants try and squeeze in when travelling to a KP.

So if you land in LAX and drive up to SLO, perhaps you stop off and play Rustic, or pull some strings and try your hand at Riveria, LACC or The Valley Club ...

You fly into SFO or SJC, you play Pasa, or pull in favors for Olympic, SFGC or the Monterey must-plays ...

So it ain't so much the KP that you work around, it's the bookends of the trip ...
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Bill_McBride

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2007, 05:31:27 PM »
Gents:

See Benham's post, and mine back to Ed Getka.  Tentative plans are being made.  But this is Tommy's event, so we await word from him on what he wants to do.

All I will say further - trying very hard not to step on Tommy's toes - is that if he allows the event to occur here in the North, I can promise one and all will enjoy what has been suggested to me off-line, and relayed to Tommy.  

So conjecture and suggest away if you wish.. but the reality remains this is Tommy's event, so we await word from him.

TH
What is the statute of limitations?  ;)

Mike Golden

Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2007, 06:46:30 PM »

the only problem with having a King's Putter or similar even on the Central Coast is ...


Mike -

As you know California is a very big state ... and the odds are that the next location for KP will not be near a metropolitan area.  Logistics of planning an event near LA or SF is damn near impossible if the costs are to be reasonable AND we are to get tee times at courses people want to see.

The history of the KPs reveal that driving, at a minimum of one hour or an extra stop on a plane is required ... Barona, Pasa/Pajaro, Rustic, Stevenson, Stone Eagle ...

Even the Dixie Cup events require enough driving that making it a weekend-only trip is near impossible.

And to be clear to all, the planning for the next Kings Putter rests in the hands of Tommy.  


Mike

Mike,

Having it at La Purisima isn't an issue for California residents since it's pretty much equidistant from both NorCal and SoCal.  But, for me as an Atlanta resident I would need at least 2 extra days to get in and out.  

It probably doesn't matter right now for me anyway since we're so busy and I'll be in Korea from November 17-23 anyway.

By the way, if anyone is interested, you can check out my new venture at www.proxityfinancial.com
« Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 06:47:12 PM by Mike Golden »

Jonathan Cummings

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Re:Did the King Putter Out??
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2007, 06:48:41 PM »
Tom - why the mystery?  If someone rises to the occasion and gets us all together (N, S, E or W) Tommy is going to applaud that person along with the rest of us.  

I don't understand all the politics here....  jaycee

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