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George Pazin

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2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« on: January 29, 2008, 05:43:05 PM »
I did some more cleaning over the weekend, found this, thought others might enjoy it.












Apologies to those offended by my posting old copyrighted material. I figure it's almost 3 years, it won't hurt Golf's sales figures.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

David Stamm

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 07:20:59 PM »
George,


   Thank you so much for refreshing my memory of such a powerful article. I remember the first time I read this what an effect it had on me. It really drives the point home that Strantz was pouring everything he had left into that project and yet it was his driving force to keep going at the same time. What a beautiful and yet tragic epitaph of an extremely talented man who was taken much too early.
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Bob_Huntley

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 10:55:40 PM »
George,

I have just returned home after playing the Shore. Having seen Mike working from dawn to dusk when he must have been feeling like chit, makes me realize that the human spirit is forged by the love of what we do, not by the reward.

If there is a more beautiful course in the world than this, I have yet to see it.

Bob

David Ober

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 11:51:23 PM »
George,

I have just returned home after playing the Shore. Having seen Mike working from dawn to dusk when he must have been feeling like chit, makes me realize that the human spirit is forged by the love of what we do, not by the reward.

If there is a more beautiful course in the world than this, I have yet to see it.

Bob

I have never in my life been so in awe of my surroundings as when I played the Shore. Wish I could have met the man.

George Pazin

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2008, 10:34:55 AM »
Having seen Mike working from dawn to dusk when he must have been feeling like chit, makes me realize that the human spirit is forged by the love of what we do, not by the reward.

This warms my heart, on a day when I need it. Thanks.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

John Kavanaugh

Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2008, 10:53:15 AM »
What exactly did Strantz do to make the Shore a more beautiful place?

Tom Huckaby

Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2008, 10:55:49 AM »
What exactly did Strantz do to make the Shore a more beautiful place?

Opened up views tremendously, for one thing.  In changing the direction of quite a few holes, he created views of the ocean and of Cypress Point as one plays the golf holes, instead of looking behind or to the sides.  He also cleared out a lot of obstacles that blocked such views... and allowed for high points that maximize such views.  Of course to Pat Mucci this matters not; but if it causes Bob Huntley and David Ober to state what they did in this thread, well.... Pat has a tough argument.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 10:56:29 AM by Tom Huckaby »

John Kavanaugh

Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 10:57:20 AM »
What exactly did Strantz do to make the Shore a more beautiful place?

Opened up views tremendously, for one thing.  In changing the direction of quite a few holes, he created views of the ocean and of Cypress Point as one plays the golf holes, instead of looking behind or to the sides.  He also cleared out a lot of obstacles that blocked such views... and allowed for high points that maximize such views.  Of course to Pat Mucci this matters not; but if it causes Bob Huntley and David Ober to state what they did in this thread, well.... Pat has a tough argument.



Good for him.

Jonathan McCord

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 11:25:40 AM »
A very well written article about a great gentleman.

Plaque on 15
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George Pazin

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 11:42:22 AM »
Thanks for posting the plaque, Jonathan.

I think that quick JK-Huck-JK exchange might be the first time on this site anyone asked a blunt question and simply received an answer, instead of a lecture, and then responded in kind. Nice job guys.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

John Mayhugh

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 12:28:54 PM »
George,

I have just returned home after playing the Shore. Having seen Mike working from dawn to dusk when he must have been feeling like chit, makes me realize that the human spirit is forged by the love of what we do, not by the reward.

If there is a more beautiful course in the world than this, I have yet to see it.

Bob
That is high praise indeed.  I haven't seen pictures of the shore course other than small ones on the Mike Strantz site.  Have larger pics been posted on GCA and I just missed them?  Tried searching with no success.

« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 12:31:29 PM by John Mayhugh »

Kyle Henderson

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 12:31:43 PM »
What exactly did Strantz do to make the Shore a more beautiful place?

Opened up views tremendously, for one thing.  In changing the direction of quite a few holes, he created views of the ocean and of Cypress Point as one plays the golf holes, instead of looking behind or to the sides.  He also cleared out a lot of obstacles that blocked such views... and allowed for high points that maximize such views.  Of course to Pat Mucci this matters not; but if it causes Bob Huntley and David Ober to state what they did in this thread, well.... Pat has a tough argument.



He also capped the fairways, transforming a mud bog into wide expanses of handsomely-striped greenery during winter months. That must count for a few points in the aesthetics category.  ;)
« Last Edit: January 30, 2008, 01:13:22 PM by Kyle Henderson »
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Tom Huckaby

Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2008, 12:41:18 PM »
John - MPCC Shore has been discussed countless times in here and many many pictures have been posted.  Keep searching... or perhaps some adept at searching in here (not me, that's for sure!) will give some links.

Kyle - good point also.. though I'm not sure credit for that goes to Strantz or to the club in general.  Nevertheless drainage and conditions are indeed greatly improved.

TH

Bob_Huntley

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2008, 02:50:45 PM »
John - MPCC Shore has been discussed countless times in here and many many pictures have been posted.  Keep searching... or perhaps some adept at searching in here (not me, that's for sure!) will give some links.

Kyle - good point also.. though I'm not sure credit for that goes to Strantz or to the club in general.  Nevertheless drainage and conditions are indeed greatly improved.

TH

Tom is right here. The Club decided that the first order of business, no matter the architect, was that the fairways would be capped to a depth of about eighteen inches to two feet.

Bob

Kyle Henderson

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 02:56:16 PM »
John - MPCC Shore has been discussed countless times in here and many many pictures have been posted.  Keep searching... or perhaps some adept at searching in here (not me, that's for sure!) will give some links.

Kyle - good point also.. though I'm not sure credit for that goes to Strantz or to the club in general.  Nevertheless drainage and conditions are indeed greatly improved.

TH

Tom is right here. The Club decided that the first order of business, no matter the architect, was that the fairways would be capped to a depth of about eighteen inches to two feet.

Bob

Bob,
Didn't Strantz decide to use a new synthetic mix in order to circumvent the restrictions placed on top soil, or was that also a club decision?
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Jay Flemma

Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2008, 04:06:11 PM »
Here's some pix guys.  Yes, George, that was a nice article.



this one below is ten:



par-3 11th.  Mike's Last Hole:



I think this last one is 15...I played the course out of order, starting on 4, so I think thi9s is 15...


Matthew Hunt

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2008, 04:36:08 PM »
Great man, wish I could of met him before his untimely death.

Rich Brittingham

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2008, 04:44:18 PM »
Playing Stonehouse and Royal New Kent this spring, my first taste of Stranz and I can't wait.

John Mayhugh

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2008, 05:48:21 PM »
Thanks for the great looking pics Jay.

Bob_Huntley

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2008, 12:53:39 PM »
John - MPCC Shore has been discussed countless times in here and many many pictures have been posted.  Keep searching... or perhaps some adept at searching in here (not me, that's for sure!) will give some links.

Kyle - good point also.. though I'm not sure credit for that goes to Strantz or to the club in general.  Nevertheless drainage and conditions are indeed greatly improved.

TH

Tom is right here. The Club decided that the first order of business, no matter the architect, was that the fairways would be capped to a depth of about eighteen inches to two feet.

Bob

Bob,
Didn't Strantz decide to use a new synthetic mix in order to circumvent the restrictions placed on top soil, or was that also a club decision?



Kyle,

This from the member who was the leader of the Shore Building project:

Bob,

The concept had been presented to us by one of our members, Michael Lach, prior to Mike being retained. Mike was the only one of those considered that knew what to do with the idea!! If I remember correctly there were only 2-3 courses that had used it prior to us and they did not use the same technology, ie. the Amendment material shipped from Tennessee and blended with the sand at the Quarry to a fairly precise %.

Bill

Norbert P

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2008, 01:22:37 PM »
. . . the Amendment material (was) shipped from Tennessee and blended with the sand at the Quarry to a fairly precise %.


Wow. I'm really curious why they didn't just get soil from the San Juaquin Valley.  

Thanks George for re-posting that great article. (Saved to comp files)
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Bob_Huntley

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2008, 01:34:40 PM »
. . . the Amendment material (was) shipped from Tennessee and blended with the sand at the Quarry to a fairly precise %.


Wow. I'm really curious why they didn't just get soil from the San Juaquin Valley.  

Thanks George for re-posting that great article. (Saved to comp files)


Slag,

Pray tell, what is the connection between the soil from Fresno and what was used?

Bob

Norbert P

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2008, 01:38:28 PM »

Slag,

Pray tell, what is the connection between the soil from Fresno and what was used?

Bob
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Closer, is all.   (I didn't read the whole thread . . . I probably missed something. I did just see a question about synthetic amendment. Was that the case?)
"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

Norbert P

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2008, 01:58:13 PM »
What is this "new synthetic mix" and what is it made out of? It has to made from something natural.

And why is synthetic allowed while real soil is not?  

Oregon and California both share some tight ecological standards, but I hadn't heard that importing locally mined soil was a no no unless it covered protected (for whatever reason) land.

I'm just trying to learn.

"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

Norbert P

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Re:2005 Golf Magazine article on Mike Strantz
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2008, 02:32:30 PM »
Here's something about synthetic soil from the WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) website.

" . . . Mineral zeolites have been found to be a class of very useful ion exchange media. Many natural species are prevalent and numerous synthetic species have been made in the laboratory. Zeolites are hydrated aluminosilicates of alkali and alkaline-earth cations that possess infinite, three-dimensional crystal structures (i.e.,

tektosilicates). The primary building units of the zeolite crystal structure are (AI,Si)è4 tetrahedra. When Al3+ and sometimes Fe3+ substitute for Si4+ in the central cation position of the tetrahedron, a net-negative charge is generated. This negative charge is counterbalanced primarily by monovalent and divalent "exchange cations." Zeolites have shown the ability to exchange most of their constituent exchange cations as well as hydrate/dehydrate without major changes in the structural framework. Most zeolites have large channels and/or cages that allow exchange cations easy access to charge sites and provide unique cation selectivity.

The use of zeolites as a major soil component has a relatively recent past. U. S. Patent 4,337,078 to Petrov et al. describes the use of a natural zeolite clinoptilolite with vermiculite and peat in a synthetic soil. The term zeoponics has been coined to describe synthetic soils containing zeolites in horticulture. "

 Ok, I get it now.  Go ahead Dick, explain it to everybody else.

"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

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