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Anthony_Nysse

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Calusa Pines Golf Club
« on: January 02, 2007, 09:14:54 AM »
Treehouse,
  Looking for some more info on this Hurdzan/Fry course in Naples, FL. Any info would be great!

Tony Nysse
Sr. Asst. Supt.
Long Cove Club
HHI, SC
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 09:26:38 AM »
No comment beyond it is one of the better if not the best course in Naples.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 09:37:51 AM »
From hurdzanfry.com:



It takes a very special golf course to attract much attention in south Florida mainly because there are so many built with high budgets, big egos, and on relatively featureless sites.  Calusa Pines distinguishes itself from its brethren because it goes to excess, some would say; but in such a subtle way that it becomes memorable.  Named among the prestigious “Top Ten Best New Private Clubs” in the United States according to Golf Digest, Calusa Pines features outstanding vistas generated by sweeping ridges that influences ten golf holes.  The landforms are so soft, and flowing that they blend in well enough to appear natural and unique.  Combined with extensive native plant vegetation it is difficult to imagine the golf course was built, instead of simply laid out on this superb piece of land.  Calusa Pines was founded to provide an exceptional golf experience for its members in a relaxed atmosphere that promotes camaraderie among those who truly love the game.  The club doesn’t release membership information, has no tee times, and features a strong caddie program as members and guests are encouraged to walk the course.
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dsilk

Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 09:50:34 AM »
Great golf course which abuts Olde Florida Golf Club.  I have heard that Olde Florida had some eminent domain issues with roads etc and I dont know if and/or how that might affect C.P.

probably fodder for and from the rumor mill so take it with a grain of salt.


S. Huffstutler

Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 09:57:01 AM »
The eminent domain issue doesn't impact Calusa Pines at all, it is about a road extension that will bypass Old Florida and the only effect it will have is on the neighbors and an increase in traffic in the area. The neighbors aren't at all happy. Calusa Pines is in the same general area, but does not abut Old Florida.

Steve
« Last Edit: January 02, 2007, 10:01:26 AM by S. Huffstutler »

Tommy Williamsen

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 10:11:59 AM »
Anthony, we have had previos discussions about CP.  I played it a couple of years ago and found it to be exceptional. It is privately owned and the owner spared no expense either on the course or in the clubhouse.  It is not in a housing development and the relatively flat land was transformed into a slighlty rolling piece of ground.  It has a couple terrific short par fours and is an enjoyable round.  I have felt for sometime that the quality of Hurdzan's work took a leap forward with the addition of Dana Fry.  Hurzdzan could make them pretty but Fry makes them good.
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John_Conley

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 12:55:39 PM »
Treehouse,
  Looking for some more info on this Hurdzan/Fry course in Naples, FL. Any info would be great!

Tony Nysse
Sr. Asst. Supt.
Long Cove Club
HHI, SC

Very good course, Tony.  What would you like to know?  It deviates from the South Florida norm because far more care was taken when digging out ponds.  Rather than place them everywhere as a dominant feature on holes they used a "big dig" philosophy where they attempted (successfully if you ask me) to introduce a natural looking feature with an irregular shape - not a round, rectangular, or amoeba-like puddle.

High-end private club considered by many to be one of the 10 best in Florida.

cary lichtenstein

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 06:04:14 PM »
Tony:

I have posted before on this course. I thought the shapers did a pretty amazing job considering the site. You will enjoy it.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

JR Potts

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 10:25:29 PM »
I've heard nothing but great things!

Mike_Young

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 10:28:50 PM »
I've heard nothing but great things!
Same here and hope to play it this winter.
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2007, 02:59:10 AM »
I've heard the same as all above. Nothing but great things and talking with Dr. Mike, it's one of his and Dana's favorites. I really hope to see it someday.

Sébastien Dhaussy

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Anthony_Nysse

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 05:53:06 AM »
Everyone-
  Thanks for your input-Sounds quite impressive and y'all gave it positive reviews. Also-Thaks for the help with the links!

Tony Nysse
Sr. Asst. Supt.
Long Cove Club
HHI, SC
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Michael Ryan

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 09:39:38 AM »
Played Calusa last February, it is fantastic.  I've never been a fan of "Florida Courses" having grown up in the Northeast.  The folks at Calusa (owner, architect, super) have done an amazing job of carving this course out and creating 18 unique and challenging holes.  I was impressed with the variety of the par 3's and the presence of a short par 4 on each side that tempts a driver.  The elevation change on a handful of holes that was created with the fill from the lake(s) on-site really makes this course stand out from other good Florida courses I have played.  I also loved the conditions I encountered last Feb, very firm fairways and greens that were quick and required a well struck shot to hold....

John Mayhugh

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 01:27:30 PM »
I had a chance to play several rounds at Calusa Pines last year.  I agree that the course is really special.  Like Michael, I've never been a huge fan of Florida courses, but this was an exception.  The elevation changes at Calusa really make a difference on some of the holes.  

An excerpt from a Golf Course News article:

Enlisting the services of Hurdzan, Fry Design, Course Doctors and superintendent Eric von Hofen, Chensoff transformed 550 acres of flat land into an undulating property that has 58 feet of elevation change and features the highest point of land in south Florida.

In order to reach such heights, Course Doctors, working with local mass excavator LeeMar, blasted through tons of rock to dig 72 acres of 25foot-deep lakes. Part of the two million cubic yards of fill from the pond excavation was then used to create the 15-acre landmass that encompasses seven holes on the private layout.

"This is a hard place to build a golf course," said director of agronomy Eric von Hofen who has worked at Calusa Pines since November of 2000. "You have to blast into coral rock to build ponds. We spent one million dollars on dynamite alone."
Once the blasting was done, the next challenge was forming the landmass.

"On the plans, it was 20 feet lower than the finished product," said lead architect Dana Fry. "The height of it was not as difficult as the scale of it. It is 58 feet high, but it goes on for a couple thousand yards in order to make it look natural."
The landmass was tied to the golf course through numerous sand and waste bunkers. There is one waste area that encompasses nine acres and the eighth green features a 27-foot tall bunker.

"Once we built that big earth mass, we had to keep water from washing the features away," said Course Doctors president Jim Sparks. "Our shapers Jeff Carsner and Steve Coe worked closely with Dana to tie in the finish work and bunker construction."
As Course Doctors completed the fine shaping, von Hofen followed behind with landscaping.

"We wanted to make the course look like it had always been there," he said. "We didn't want to build a big mound and leave it all grass." Von Hofen and his team planted 165 large oak trees (some as high as 45-feet tall and weighing 37,000 pounds), 1,200 pine trees and 900 sable palms.  The final tab on construction topped out at $16 million.

They succeeded in building a great course.  I thought fairways were fairly generous in size and course conditions fast & firm.  Green complexes were interesting, but nothing tricked-up.

The clubhouse was built to look like it had been there for a long time and they succeeded.  On the inside, the locker room has these beautiful distressed wood lockers.  It seems like it belongs in the northeast rather than south Florida.

I have several pictures from the course, but no clue how to post them.



Kalen Braley

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2007, 05:42:30 PM »
Get a free photobucket account and post them there and provide us the links or jpegs   ;D

Nick Pozaric

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Re:Calusa Pines Golf Club
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2007, 11:03:57 AM »
I just spoke with someone that played CP yesterday and he said it was one of the nicest golf experiences he has ever had.  Cant wait to see it at the end of the month

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