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T_MacWood

Angular architecture quiz
« on: November 21, 2004, 09:13:01 PM »
There were a number of architects known for the angular or engineered style, other architects went through an angular period which eventually evolved into another style...this quiz has examples of both. There are 13 courses and 13 architects (14 really because one course is a dual effort). Name the architects.


#1



#2



#3



#4



#5



#6



#7


#8



#9


#10



#11



#12



#13
« Last Edit: November 21, 2004, 09:58:14 PM by Tom MacWood »
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2004, 09:49:05 PM »
some wild guesses...incomplete to be sure.  Wow MacWood, where do you get this stuff!!! :o 8) ;D

1. Lido?
2 Pinehurst or Greenbriar?
3 El Caballero?
4 Old Eastlake NLE, Bende?
5 Seminole?
6 ?
7 California somewhere?
8 Shawnee
9 Manilla
10 Rayor Banks CB something
11 Langford
12 ?
13 Pasa...?

Man, this isn't hardly even a start for all you old photo bugs.  I didn't take the time to see if I could find the photos in some of the old books I have.  Packers are on... ::)
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A_Clay_Man

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2004, 09:56:18 PM »
Dick, 11 was the only one that jump out at me, very Lawsonia esque.

Thanx Tom for the exercise, especially since I am clueless.
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2004, 10:10:11 PM »
#10 is the 10th at Inverness by Ross, I believe.  I'll also guess the #1 is Oyster Harbors.

12 might be Plainfield, and 3 looks like Shawnee and 7 looks like Flynn.

That's about as much as I can guess.  Great exercise...I'm sure we'll be surprised at the results.

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Paul_Turner

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2004, 10:13:55 PM »
 I think 12 is Gleneagles.
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SPDB

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2004, 10:35:59 PM »
Mike - If that's the 10th at Inverness, I was amazed by its similarity to PVGC #3.

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mark chalfant

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2004, 11:52:31 PM »
1  CBM
2  Ross
3  Tilly
4  Strong   @ Inwood
7  Emmet
8  Raynor
9  Ross     Havana!!
11 Langford
12 Braid  ?
13 Flynn @    Cascades

Thanks  Tom,  cool photos
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TEPaul

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2004, 04:23:21 AM »
#1 That's got to be the 14th at NGLA. Could that've been the first beach bunker ever built?

SPDB:

Good point about #10 being similar to #3 PVGC. The bunker placement and green shape appears almost identical.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2004, 04:25:35 AM by TEPaul »
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T_MacWood

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2004, 06:43:51 AM »
A number of excellent answers...more than half are already identified. A very astute crowd.

Surprisingly Emmet, Banks and Raynor have yet to be correctly identified. #10 does look a little like the 3rd at PV, but it is not.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2004, 06:55:42 AM by Tom MacWood »
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TEPaul

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2004, 07:00:02 AM »
Personally, I'd have to believe it's almost impossible to accurately identify who the architect was on most all these posted photos unless you've actually seen some of these holes in person or you're in possession of or have access to photos that identify the holes and who the architect was.
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rgkeller

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2004, 08:00:05 AM »
Isn't number five an old picture of the sixteenth at Garden City with the little pond in the foreground?
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2004, 08:46:30 AM »
I take that back.  Thanks Sean.  ;)

I'm now thinking number #10 might be the 9th at Merion East.  




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SPDB

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2004, 08:52:08 AM »
Mike - that was my first inclination, but the land to the right of the green is inconsistent with the area around 11 Green (creek - low lying area). But again, I'm not familiar with what it looked like in 1935
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2004, 08:56:58 AM »
Sean;

You're right...I should probably just stick with my original guess, but the greens are very geometrically similar between 3 at PV and 9 at Merion as you point out.  
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Eckstein

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2004, 10:21:36 AM »
#5  Chicago?
#6 Onwentsia?
#11 Shoreacres?
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George_Bahto

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2004, 10:58:57 AM »
just a hint .....   #8 is just a few exits over the Tap Bridge into NY
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2004, 11:09:45 AM »
George;

Is there a downhill reverse redan just a few holes before that one?
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George_Bahto

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2004, 11:27:13 AM »
no Mike   -  not along the Hudson River

it is one of the best 18th holes in the area .......

gb
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2004, 11:37:55 AM »
Quote from: SPDB on November 22, 2004, 08:52:08 AM
Mike - that was my first inclination, but the land to the right of the green is inconsistent with the area around 11 Green (creek - low lying area). But again, I'm not familiar with what it looked like in 1935

And you know what? Your not familiar what it looked like in 1931 either! Especially your friend Tosh Humdinger!
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2004, 11:40:06 AM »
George,

Which side of the Tap bridge?  Both sides are NY.

It's not Whippoorwill.
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2004, 11:48:33 AM »
Gotcha, George...my eyes are going!   ;D

The first part of the name of this course is also the name of one of your very favorite courses.  
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2004, 11:51:19 AM »
Quote from: Mike_Cirba on November 22, 2004, 11:48:33 AM
The first part of the name of this course is also the name of one of your very favorite courses.  

Got it now.
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George_Bahto

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2004, 02:05:27 PM »
Scott - Mike: figured you both would

that hole sure doesn't look like that now ....  a bit of tree growth - yikes

there is a 19th playoff parf-3 hole there also

gb
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George_Bahto

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Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2004, 02:08:08 PM »
Tom - there is a hole that looks like that at Morris County CC - early Raynor ...... the one i'm thinking about is a good looking Eden hole (then)
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T_MacWood

Re:Angular architecture quiz
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2004, 03:11:15 PM »
George
I think I know which hole you are talking about...I actually thought about using a hole from Morris County, but instead I chose another hole because the old picture doesn't look like the restored hole today.

TE
For the most part these photos are representative of the architect's style...it wouldn't hurt if you had played the hole, but I don't think it is necessary. In fact there are only a few architects who haven't been identified...pretty impressive if you ask me. Here is a big hint (actually its not that big a hint because angular architects are pretty well known).

The architects: Macdonald, Raynor, Banks, Emmet, Langford, Braid, Hutchison, Alison, Flynn, Ross, Robert White, Tilly, Travis and Strong.
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