The 9th hole at Eagles Mere (Flynn 1917) is a 220 yard hole that is really downhill, probably drops at least 60 feet...maybe Tom Paul knows for sure. The 1st at Manufacturers (Flynn 1925) is a 374 yard opener and the ball hangs in the air for a long time. I'm not sure how much this drops, maybe as much as Eagles Mere, it sure is a long way down. There's also a really short par 3, the 17th I think, at Paxon Hollow that I can only vaguely recall but vividly recall how elevated the tee box is.