Brooks Keopka and his caddie giving advice

[Michael Whitaker]

Well that's not true.

According to shot tracker on the Masters website.

Brooks hit his drive 310 yards, and had 231 left.
Woodland hit his drive 331 yards, and had 209 yards left

In the video, you can see Brooks hit then his caddy gave information to Woodlands caddy...

Hmm... I'll take that up with him. Thanks.

[Michael Whitaker]

Well that's not true.

According to shot tracker on the Masters website.

Brooks hit his drive 310 yards, and had 231 left.
Woodland hit his drive 331 yards, and had 209 yards left

In the video, you can see Brooks hit then his caddy gave information to Woodlands caddy...

Kalen - I've reviewed the video and you are absolutely correct. The advice was definitely given before Woodland hit his shot, not after. I can't imagine why this caddy would have told me otherwise (or why he was told otherwise) when the evidence is so telling.

[Kalen Braley]

So they won't enforce a two shot penalty for a player's caddie deliberately breaking the rules.

But they do enforce an accidental misunderstanding like this, causing one player to miss the cut...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/a-bizarre-rules-mishap-involving-a-shuttle-ride-might-have-just-cost-a-tour-pro-his-job-on-the-korn-ferry-tour/ar-AA1abH6s?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=56b87d6659564820b3822d43c7bc3425&ei=9

[jeffwarne]

So they won't enforce a two shot penalty for a player's caddie deliberately breaking the rules.

But they do enforce an accidental misunderstanding like this, causing one player to miss the cut...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/a-bizarre-rules-mishap-involving-a-shuttle-ride-might-have-just-cost-a-tour-pro-his-job-on-the-korn-ferry-tour/ar-AA1abH6s?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=56b87d6659564820b3822d43c7bc3425&ei=9

They in this instance was the PGA(Korn Ferry) Tour


The other "They" are The Masters, who pick and choose who and what to enforce.
Koepka's caddie cheated, and "they" The Masters Committee, simply chose to ask the wrong questions.

[Bruce Katona]

Bruce says to no one in particular when playing with Archie Struthers " I hit a stock 5 iron on that last shot". Archie has to know:


1. How far Bruce hits a 5 iron - 175
2. How far Archie hits a 5 iron
3. Wind direction
4. Bruce's lie - uphill, downhill, sidehill
5. Type of shot Bruce tried to play and if it actually worked to play - 3/4, punch, rope hook, cut, etc.


I get the rules...........but..................


Yeah - and no one who has opined here in 8 pages has ever gone above the speed limit while driving, made a right on red without making a complete stop, rolled thru a stop sign orgone thru a red light when thought you would make it thru on a yellow........

[A.G._Crockett]

Bruce says to no one in particular when playing with Archie Struthers " I hit a stock 5 iron on that last shot". Archie has to know:


1. How far Bruce hits a 5 iron - 175
2. How far Archie hits a 5 iron
3. Wind direction
4. Bruce's lie - uphill, downhill, sidehill
5. Type of shot Bruce tried to play and if it actually worked to play - 3/4, punch, rope hook, cut, etc.


I get the rules...........but..................


Yeah - and no one who has opined here in 8 pages has ever gone above the speed limit while driving, made a right on red without making a complete stop, rolled thru a stop sign orgone thru a red light when thought you would make it thru on a yellow........

Bruce,
For obvious reasons, the Rules don’t contain any provisions about how beneficial advice might or might not be. While I think it’s highly likely that club selection advice on Tour would be more helpful than in your match with Archie, that’s not the point.  The point is that a player can’t ask for or give advice; it’s a rule of the game that you agree to abide by when you enter a competition.


Likewise, my own previous rule breaking has no bearing on my current status if I get a traffic ticket.  Neither “But I’ve always done this!” or “But EVERYONE does this!” is a valid defense.  It didn’t work with your parents when you were a kid, you didn’t buy it from your kids, a judge wouldn’t buy it from you in traffic court, and it SHOULDN’T have worked at The Masters.