[THuckaby2]

AHA!  Silly me, I should have gleaned that already.
OK, thanks Bob - I shall locate this for sure.

TH

[Norbert P]

The point of posting this thread was to get a feel for just how esoteric and ecclectic our tastes are in music and art.

Maybe it comes down to trying to identify whether this group is overwhelmingly comprised of people who "GET IT."

  This is a fun old thread to flash back upon.

  I'm not sure if I "get it" yet but the PURSUIT of "getting it" is what keeps me interested.  I don't think any mortal could totally "get it" though.  The simple fact that the finest archies vacillate immensely with time, the possiblities of a design, tells us that there is no absolute "Getting it". The more variables in the field of nature that interact with man's designs makes the possibilites for gca understanding unlimited.  Quite fascinating to this rube.

   One interesting thing to me is that I've found the elder golfers, by percentage, take more notice of design (gleaned from conversations perhaps spoken more eloquently) than do the youth*.  Is it a relaxed ego? Is this a higher appreciation for life, sport, the arts and nature?  An aquired understanding of what's important?  Another quandary to pursue.

*I deny fair reasonableness due to my own social misfitisms.

"Once it seemed there would always be
   a time for everything.
 Ages passed, I knew at last
   my life had never been.
 I'd been missing what time could bring.

 Fifty years and I'm filled with tears and joys
   I never cried.
 Burn the wagon and chain the mule.
 The past is all denied.
 There's No Time For Everything."       IA (Jethro Tull)

[Norbert P]

 Rees Jones' Sandpines is merely grape juice.
 
 Husum Hills GC (9er) is Two Buck Chuck. (Charles Shaw = Cheap buzz)

[Scott_Burroughs]

Which architects are Night Train and Mad Dog 20/20?  

In actuality, vino is NOT a language I speak well.  Give me Black Butte Porter in the Bandon pub, and I'm set.

[Marty Bonnar]

Swinging this thread back (somewhat) on topic, I'd like to assemble a music/art/golf course architecture triumvirate which has some commonality (or at least a uniting theme....)
My 'starter for ten' would be:

Music:
Janis Joplin singing 'Summertime'

Art:
Manet's 'Le Dejeuner sur L'Herbe'

GCA:
ANGC.

See where I'm coming from?

'Tri' a triumvirate.....

Martin.

[Andy Levett]

If golf architects were musicians...
Donald Ross = J.S. Bach: Prodigious output of timeless classics, considered old-fashioned by many for a while after his death before true merits rediscovered.
Dr MacKenzie = Beethoven: Learned from everyone's favourite (Mozart=Harry Colt) before taking his art to a new level which left some people scratching their heads at the time.
You choose = Rolling Stones: Used to be vital but now keep on churning out the same old stuff in a sad parody of their younger selves.
Jack Nicklaus = Liszt: Used great ability as a player as an entree to composing difficult works that best suited his own technique (Liszt played with a high fade). In later years as his playing ability faded his compositions became more multi-dimensional.

[Jay Carstens]

Andy:
Obviously you didn't attend the Stones' "Forty Licks" tour!  
They don't call them "The Greatest Rock & Roll Band in the World" for nothing.  

[Dan Herrmann]

Is there better golf music than Barrry White's Love Unlimited Orchestra's, "Love's Theme"?

Ray Charles doing "Georgia" is great too.

[Dan Herrmann]

Andy:
Obviously you didn't attend the Stones' "Forty Licks" tour!  
They don't call them "The Greatest Rock & Roll Band in the World" for nothing.  

My wife an I saw them at the Tower in Philly (their small venue), and it was extrememly disappointing.  I don't think they "get" the smaller gig thing anymore.  I heard that the shows at the Vet and the FU were much, much better.

[Jay Carstens]

1. Jumping Jack Flash
2. You Got Me Rocking
3. Sad Sad Sad
4. Hand of Fate
5. No Expectations  
6. Hot Stuff
7. Everybody Needs Somebody To Love
8. Heart of Stone  
9. Going to a Go Go
10. Love Train
11. Slipping Away
12. Before They Make Me Run
13. It's Only Rock and Roll
14. Rocks Off
15. Stray Cat Blues  
16. Can't You Hear Me Knocking  
17. Honky Tonk Woman
18. Start Me Up
19. Brown Sugar
20. Tumbling Dice

Dan,
I read the night was marred by a couple numbers being botched (Love Train/Rocks Off).  Also very hot inside the venue.  Lisa Fisher was ill that night too, which was very unfortunate.  
But can you explain to me what you mean by "extremely disappointed" and "I don't think they get the small gig thing anymore"?  I'd be interested to hear your opinion.

[Norbert P]

I'd like to assemble a music/art/golf course architecture triumvirate.

'Tri' a triumvirate.....

Martin.

Dean Elliot,  Zounds! What Sounds!  1963

Salvadore Dali    (your choice)

Prestwick, Ayrshire, Scotland

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The Crusaders, Rhapsody in Blues

Mike Miller

Carne GC, Belmullet, Ireland  (Connemara GC works too)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bruce Springsteen, Nebraska

Wyeth (Any generation, any picture)

Sand Hills or Wildhorse

+++++++++++++++++++++++++

Martin Simpson, (so many fine choices)

Ansel Adams

Any hidden gem

[RJ_Daley]

Music----Pieta, Pavarotti
Art------Pieta, Michelangelo Buonarotti
GCA-----"pity" me, I sure want to say one of those I haven't experienced, like National, Pine Valley, or Cypress Pt., or one of the Irish courses Slag mentions, but I'll have to go with what I know, Sand Hills, Coore and Crenshaw.

[Dan Herrmann]

Slag - you're right about Wyeth.  He could've been the world's best golf artist.

If you're in the Philly area, check out a hot dog stand named "Jimmy Johns" on US202 just north of Chadds Ford.  There's a candid photo of "Andy Wyeth" with the owner enjoying a fun lunch with his family.

Pretty cool if you're into art.

[Tim Taylor]

Mike,

This is coming from a 38 year old father of two (4 year old daughter, 2 year old son): "Stacy's Mom" by Fountains of Wayne is a terrific song from a great album.

If you like Cheap Trick, The Beatles, The Cars...stuff like that...pop music with an edge, you'll love Fountains of Wayne.

My wife once asked me when I was going to "grow up" and start listening to "adult music". I replied "hopefully never". I, too, am sick of all the phony angst in today's music but there is still a lot of good stuff out there. You just have to find it.

As for the poster whose kid asked for Johnny Cash, buy it for him/her. Then if he/she likes it, treat them to some Old 97s. Trust me, they'll dig it.

TimT

Tom,

I am tiring quickly of today's whiny music replete with bogus angst.  Just last evening, I was bringing my 14 year old daughter home from dance and she sang along to a tune called "I'm in love with Stacey's mom" who, according to the song has "got it going on."

Sheesh, why can't they be like we were - perfect in every way.

Mike

[Ken_Cotner]

TimT,

It was me with the Cash-requesting kid.  And yep, the Old 97's are strong.  Now lemme tell ya about the Drive By Truckers...

Ken

[Dan King]

I'd have to go with Dan Hicks and his Hot Licks. Whenever anyone who knows him sees him their first response is, "Jeez, he's still alive?"

For artist, I'll stick with the SF Bay Area and go with David Singer, who designed many of the Bill Graham Presents posters. First response for Singer, is "Jeez, he's still at it?" He also did a number of album covers. Here's one of my favs:



The golf course now has to be obvious. What course would go with these two other unique artists, both from the Bay Area?

Yep, gotta go with Lincoln Park.



"Jeez, is it still a golf course?"

Dan King

"All art deals with the absurd and aims at the simple. Good art speaks truth, indeed is truth, perhaps the only truth."
 --Iris Murdoch

[Ken_Cotner]

Jeez, is Dan still alive?  

You are still the King.  My first reaction was, "Ah, Charlie Byrd, what a fine jazzman.  Is he still alive?"

Alas, no.

Isn't Lincoln Park the course next to a big art museum?

Ken

[George Pazin]

All right, that does it, screw Rancid...

Damn, Huck, and I just finished burning copies of a half dozen Rancid CDs for you. Oh well, your loss, nothing like 22 songs in 43 minutes.

Andy - nice list (no pun) - who's Vivaldi?

[Andy Levett]

George
Vivaldi worked in Venice and there are no good courses there due to the architects' over-reliance on water hazards.

Jay
I'm glad you enjoyed the show. The Stones are one of my favourites too but I just don't think many of their finer moments have come in the past 25 years. Judging by that  setlist you shared they may feel the same way themselves  

[A_Clay_Man]

Ken- Yes, the course comes in close proximity to a building which is a piece of art. My memory of this place is limited because it was closed due to earthquake damage/retrofitting.

I think its called the palace of fine arts, but again, I only saw it from the course.

What a piece of property. With SF out-doing Manhattan for priciest RE that course has to be worth a couple bil.

Do you think the city spends close to enough money to maintain a couple of bil in assets? Nawh, they ain't that smart.

[THuckaby2]

Ahhhh... stinkin' Lincoln... the best and worst course in the anywhere near San Francisco... that is, it's the best in terms of views and quirkiness, it's the worst in terms of maintenance.  Shag carpets putt faster and truer than those greens and there's more grass in my neighbor's driveway than on those fairways...

It is a very cool place, however they maintain it.  I always enjoy playing there, and it has a damn fine 19th hole (bar), I might add...  It's just sad they give the course such short shrift.

The building it surrounds is called the Legion of Honor, btw... Palace of Fine Arts is a few miles away.  But no hassles....

TH

ps to George - any and all Rancid gifts will be gratefully accepted!  

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