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Bret Lawrence

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Re: Best par 69 courses?
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2019, 09:36:56 AM »
Jeff,


Country Club of Waterbury in Waterbury, CT is a Par 69 Donald Ross course.  One of my favorites courses to play in the area. 


https://ccwaterbury.com/web/pages/golf-tour;jsessionid=A626486A1AC6FF14E0A8826D34C0994B


Bret

Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Best par 69 courses?
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2019, 02:42:51 PM »
All the sub par 70 courses in GB&I mentioned so far were built in the days when "bogey" was the standard way of assessing how many stokes it should take a good golfer to complete a hole. Holes much over 400 yards were generally classed as "bogey 5" holes.


"Par" only came into common usage between the wars. Many older courses with a perfectly respectable bogey of 73 or 74 found themselves with a par of 68 or 69 under the new system. Courses built subsequently have generally had a par of over 70 as this became thought of as the baseline for a serious golf course.


Many courses have extended a couple of longer holes to reach par 5 status and so tip the course over the "magic" 70 figure. Many others haven't whether through choice, obstinance, or lack of space.


The change in meaning for the term "bogey" to one over par only became widespread in GB&I after WW2. Some of the more traditional clubs were still using bogey instead of par on their scorecards right up to the end of the 20th century. I suspect that one or two might still to this day!








Tim Martin

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Re: Best par 69 courses?
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2019, 07:01:17 PM »
Warwick Country Club-Rhode Island

Brent Carlson

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Re: Best par 69 courses?
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2019, 12:17:19 AM »
A sneaky good one is Crail from the back tees.  There are a few lows, but a lot more highs. Its not in the class of Pulborough, St E, Swinley or Rye, but Crail holds its own.  The same could be said for Addington.  Hopefully the planned work will help folks realize how good Addy is.  Another sneaky high quality design is Cavendish.  Memory suggests it is a par 68, but that matters not. It too is in the same class with Crail and Addy...which is top 100 GB&I material.  The same is true of New Zealand...and I have high hopes of this course being much improved with recent work.

Happy Hockey


Sean,


Are you able to give more detail to the referenced work at The Addington?  Just played there and very much enjoyed it.  Tree removal would make it that much better.

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