[Garland Bayley]

Anyone for Stableford?

Not so much. You got guis establishing handicaps making triples and not being penalized when a double pays the same. Stableford has been hijacked by clever baggers.

Don't blame people for being "baggers" when inadequacy of the handicap system is at fault.

[archie_struthers]

 


It’s not even close as to preference for most amateurs , given the difficulty in grinding out stroke play scores. With the handicap system set the way it is you can play and post a score without really finishing.


Our group always paid a net winner in the throw away portion  so there was no picking up . If you really like the action this allowed you to play the whole field without having to go hole by hole with the card and adjustments. Your bet is your net .


It’s a tougher call for club championship events but always thought that match play makes more people interested and gives a chance for an upset 😢. The US Open identifies the best player in a different way.  We qualify stroke play then play match from there. It works !

[Mark_Fine]

Archie,
I have been a gross score player most of the time as I generally have little chance in net tournaments.  I still sometimes play in our President's Cup matches which are net but it is hard to win when you are one under par after 13 holes and still haven't won a hole against some 23 handicapper who is somehow only 6 over at that point     Again that doesn't always happen but I am always amazed at some of the net scores that get turned in 

[David Ober]

Archie,
I have been a gross score player most of the time as I generally have little chance in net tournaments.  I still sometimes play in our President's Cup matches which are net but it is hard to win when you are one under par after 13 holes and still haven't won a hole against some 23 handicapper who is somehow only 6 over at that point     Again that doesn't always happen but I am always amazed at some of the net scores that get turned in 

Our reigning President's Cup Champion is a 2 course handicap.


There are clubs where a 0 to + have virtually no chance of winning a net "President's Cup" (a culture where sandbagging is tolerated) and clubs where they do (less sandbagging allowed/tolerated). I've been a member at both types of clubs and have won quite a few net tournaments over the years, but usually 2-man events with a final round of "aggregate stroke play," which plays into the low players' strengths.


Our reigning President's Cup Champion is a 2 course handicap.

[John Kavanaugh]

I know a 2 that is a reinstated amateur. He stays a 2 because he can still play in USGA events. He wins a lot also.

[David Ober]

I know a 2 that is a reinstated amateur. He stays a 2 because he can still play in USGA events. He wins a lot also.

[/size]If that's the case, then that guy is a straight up bagger. Would love to see his "regular index" versus a computed "tournament index."[size=78%]

[/size]I know a +1 to +2 who wins thousands(?) in net bets a month because he's really a +4 and rarely shoots outside a range of about 6 shots. Those guys definitely exist, no doubt.[size=78%]

[Pete_Pittock]

The predominant game we played was points nassau, four ball match.  Lowest player becomes scratch, other hdcps adjusted appropriately.
Any hole winner of the two net low balls would get a point, any hole winner of the two higher net score ball would get a point. No carryovers. Usually $1-$1-$2 or variant with presses available at 2 down, more serious at 5-5-10.

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