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Ronald Montesano

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Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« on: October 19, 2019, 07:33:35 AM »
Anyone familiar with this course? Its website brags of Donald J. Ross, jr., as its architect, which always catches my eye. Any and all insight is appreciated.
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mark chalfant

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Re: Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2019, 06:19:26 PM »

Ron,
It is possible that this spot was formerly known as Edgewood or Edgehill CC.  I believe that course was attributed to  Donald James Ross.  While visiting Oakmont in 2010 I asked about this layout. Most locals were unfamiliar with it but one man described it as rugged and very hilly.  One other person said "LongVue is the course you should see out here"
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Ryan Farrow

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Re: Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2019, 07:36:26 PM »
Green Oaks is a few steps down from Longview which is a step down from Fox Chapel. It's a decent course but I would say Edgewood Country Club is the better Ross course in Western PA. Green Oaks has some room for improvement but it's a tight layout, 18 holes on about 115 acres. 3 par 3's on the last 5 holes really give the routing a forced feel.
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Ryan Farrow

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Re: Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2019, 08:48:55 PM »
I stopped at the Tufts archive in Pinehurst last week and came across a routing with JB McGovern listed as the architect, dated Oct. 1947. The plan was listed under Green Oaks, because it is Green Oaks. The title says Westmoreland Country Club.

 I found a Pittsburgh Press article from 1913 and 1914 that says "Donald Ross is expected in Pittsburgh this week. He will spend a few days at the Allegheny CC rearranging the course and will then go to the Westmoreland CC where he will lay out new holes and place the traps and bunkers."


It looks like the course opened sometime in the 1920's and JB McGovern's changes were not implemented.




« Last Edit: November 02, 2019, 09:17:53 PM by Ryan Farrow »
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2019, 09:27:41 PM »
Played and caddied and observed at Green Oaks many times. Solid course, good green contours… some awkward sidehill holes, and 4 and 5 are a bit peculiar (5 more so than 4).
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 01:13:33 AM »
How did Westemoreland, founded in 1904, wind up with a Dick Wilson course in 1951? Originally a 9 hole course, they bought a nearby farm and built a Donald Ross course in 1921. When a fire destroyed their club house in 1951, they decided to build a new club house AND a new course on another nearby farm and built a Dick Wilson course which opened in 1954. What happened to the Ross course? It was sold to Green Oaks!!!!
http://www.westmorelandcc.com/


http://www.greenoakscc.com/


From my  previous thread on Westmoreland.

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,65001.msg1549770.html#msg1549770
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Green Oaks in Pittsburgh
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 09:01:31 AM »
Quote from: Steve_ Shaffer on November 03, 2019, 01:13:33 AM
Originally a 9 hole course, they bought a nearby farm and built a Donald Ross course in 1921.


As noted above, the Ross work here was in 1913-14.  The Donald Ross Society has updated their listing to reflect these dates.


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