[BCowan]

If a property has ridges that are sharp, does an (archie) try and regrade them to raise lower part of fairway, which would allow more available fairway at a higher elevation that is prone to flooding?  Routing parallel to ridge could lead to softer conditions (valley)?    Also given sand is the soil, would any archies be more inclined to soften ridge and raise lower part of fairway prone to flooding?  Is re-grading slopes to more gradual inclines cost effective with the soil being sand?   

[BCowan]

My only point was that to nerds like me, the idea of NOT raising and grading fairways to limit flood damage and speed drainage a pretty foreign concept.......and that sometimes, basic approaches other than minimalism were required. - Jeff Brauer

So I take it you are for regrading to raise lower areas that are prone to flooding?  Makes sense to me and this is what the premise of my question was. 

[Jeff_Brauer]

Ben,


Sorry I didn't see this one earlier.  Technically, bringing fill down from a ridge out of the floodplain is harder than rearranging dirt within the floodplain.  Usually, you like to dig a lake and haul some of that out of the floodplain to help balance the flow volume.


As to the other part of your question, re-grading ridges is usually cost effective, if the cuts are used within 1000 feet or less of where they are obtained.


Not sure that simple answer is right for a more complex issue, but hope it helps.

[BCowan]

As to the other part of your question, re-grading ridges is usually cost effective, if the cuts are used within 1000 feet or less of where they are obtained.

Jeff,

   Thanks for this info.  I was curious because for the AAC project I wanted to take a small oval plateau 240 yard in diameter  that was 15ft higher elevation then area that typically floods with rain over 2 inches and I was wondering how cost effective it would be to scrap 3 ft off the top of the plateau area and bring to lower ground to help channel surface water to a smaller area of land and make a gully like feature all within 300 yards of plateau.  I hope these sentences made some sense.   

I also wonder if Golden Age Archies would have soften ridges if they had the equipment to make walking easier for older golfers. 

[Jeff_Brauer]

Ben,


Can't speak universally for the Golden age guys, but I swear the same shaper did 10 fairway at Beverly and 2 fairway at White Bear for Ross.  Those slopes, both where Ross cut through a hill, are eerily similar.


On the other hand, at White Bear and even Langford's Wakonda, I have seen walk bridges over deep ravines that would be hard to walk, and therefore, am under the impression that this might be the preferred method to keep golfers on the high ground.  Those narrow walk bridges would be a neat feature on a new course to give it an old feel.


As to leveling the plateau, it sounds very feasible, not having seen the site.  The only area of concern would be not reducing flow of the stream and flood plain by narrowing, if a flood plain especially if regulated.

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