Wm. Mitchell

[alliebird]

Does anyone have experience or interest in looking at a wm. mitchell course that is 40 yrs. old. We are looking to interview an architect for a master plan.
 

[RT]

Alliebird,

If its one of his in Portugal we'd be interested to take a look.

RT

[Scratch_Nathan]

Alliebird -

I've played a few William Mitchell courses:
Mt. Pleasant CC, Boyleston MA, 1955
Kutsher's CC, Catskills NY 1958
Tarry Brae GC, Catskills NY, 1962
Thomas Carvel GC, Pine Plains NY 1968
McCann GC, Poughkeepsie NY, 1972

Mt. Pleasant is the only private club in the bunch and it is quite good with some unique and memorable parkland holes.  Nice creative routing, too.  It's well respected in MA and I believe it has hosted the Mass Amateur and perhaps even the Mass Open.  You should check it out near Worcester if you ever get the chance.

All of the Mitchell courses I've played are in somewhat hilly, rustic and heavily treed settings.  They use the land very naturally (not much visible earth moving) and they are not "polished modern courses" if that makes sense to you.  Natural beauty is favored over flair, and there are good golf holes on all these courses.  Big, round fingerless bunkers. If Mt. Pleasant is the pick of the bunch, Carvel is my least favorite and I wish one of the nines (the one with holes situated mainly on the side of a barren hill) would sink into the molten rock at the center of the earth I hate it so much.  

Kutshers and Tarry Brae are very nice, quiet rounds of golf.  Great smells and nature sounds. Very enjoyable but not exceptionally well maintained.  McCann is a muni and I cannot remember any holes since I've played it only one and it was years ago.

Hope that helps.  Let me know if I can help with additional info.

Greg

[Scratch_Nathan]

Oops.  I just read your post again and realized I must not have been paying attention.  Sorry for the irrelevant post.

[alliebird]

Hi Rt,
We are on Long Island, eastern end, 100 miles from New York City.
Let me know if you care.
Thanks,
Alliebird

[Jim]

There is a Shaper that works for Rees that is related I think it was his uncle.

[Jason Mandel]

All of the Mitchell courses I've played are in somewhat hilly, rustic and heavily treed settings.  They use the land very naturally (not much visible earth moving) and they are not "polished modern courses" if that makes sense to you.  Natural beauty is favored over flair, and there are good golf holes on all these courses.  Big, round fingerless bunkers. If Mt. Pleasant is the pick of the bunch, Carvel is my least favorite and I wish one of the nines (the one with holes situated mainly on the side of a barren hill) would sink into the molten rock at the center of the earth I hate it so much.  
Greg

the only mitchell course i knowingly played was Cedarbrook, the only mitchell course i know of in philadelphia.  cedarbrook is exactly as the mitchell courses are desrcibed above.  the course wasnt in great shape when we played it, but defintily had some good golf holes, a loss of about 500 trees would do tremendous things to the course.

also, the set of par 3's were some of the best in the area.  they were very flynnesqe, is there any connection?  a few uphill par 3's that were just lke flynn 3's.  

jason

[Mike_Sweeney]

Alliebird,

Not sure if you are talking about Noyac or Gardiner's (renovation by Mitchell?). Either way, Gil Hanse did some work at Old Westbury, which is Mitchell. Feel free to contact me, I have some friends there.

[alliebird]

Talking about Noyac.
We hear that Gil Hanse doesn't do renovations.
We would like to talk to him. We are in a search and have interviewed 2 architects and need to see one more. Hanse did the new back nine at Southfork and its a beauty. By the way the current president of Old Westbury is a friend of mine.
Thanks for the reply.