.....michael, thank you for your interest in the 'ruins'...i had not seen the previous posts from last fall , as i was not yet computer literate ,[i have barely achieved computer primative as we speak].......anyway, if you enjoyed the 'ruins' , i am sure you would find our new course ,the 'patriot' at lake greenwood ,[in your backyard] even more so.......it will open late this fall ,but if you would like a preview ,i am still there almost each week......912 222 1616...come on by.