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JNagle

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The Country Club of Buffalo
« on: October 04, 2012, 11:37:29 AM »
This past summer the Country Club of Buffalo began the reconstruction/restoration of their 1926 Donald Ross golf course.  The purpose of this posting is to provide an overview of the work being performed at the club as they attempt to improve their golf course.  This project has been in the making for a number of years and it took some time to get the full backing of the membership to progress to this point.  Over the coming weeks/months we hope to provide a chronological summary of not just the work being done, but the history of the course also.  There has been an interesting evolution to the place and now it appears as thought things are coming back full circle to its beginning on the Youngs Road site (there was a previous location prior to moving in 1926). 

Ross was involved with the course construction and oversight.  The Club is fortunate to have not only his plans but also aerial photos taken within a year of construction completion.  The Club hosted the 1931 USGA Women's Championship which provided the club the opportunity to secure many ground level photos of the course (many of which will be posted at various times).  The Club is truly embracing their past as they look forward.  The plan was titled the "Donald Ross Golf Course Master Plan".  Yes, there are many courses in the country which bear the name of an ODG and are not worthy of restoration, and I know nothing can be a true restoration, but the Club believes there cannot be a better course placed upon the existing ground afforded them other than Ross' original layout.  There are a few instances where safety required design modifications and visual deterrents.  While the restoration was planned the club also desired, where feasible, the lengthening of the course.  We prefer to think of it as "restoration of design intent".  This is a truly exciting project for the Club and one they feel will help kick start membership growth (which is happening while the machines are at work and the sod is flying).

CCB has had a number of changes through the years.  The influence of the '31 Women's Championship led to some design alterations and the Club solicited the advice of RTJ Sr. following his work at Oak Hill in order to modernize the course.  Geoffrey Cornish consulted with the Club and later in the 90's the bunkers were completely rebuilt.  The Club, like so many others, also was busy planting trees, lots of trees.  It was not until an October 2006 snowstorm decimated over 700 of those trees that a fresh approach was undertaken to better manage the trees.  The great thing about this course is that through the years original greens were never rebuilt.  The Ross greens (all 18 combined) are pure genius.  Some were "bit into" by visual bunkers during the modernization but the internal contours remain.  Any green which was reduced will be restored to its original outline and horizons.

As the construction continues, we are very pleased with the work of the Aspen Corporation.  Their site superintendent has developed a fine relationship with the Club and Forse Design.  Aspen's crews have been exceptional.  More than anything, the shapers have been incredible.  We, most architects, do not give enough praise to the men who really take our vision and create beautiful features.  The three shapers; Mike, Mario and Shamus are exceptional.

The 6th green has been covered in another topic on GCA, but we wanted to kick off the conversations with this particular hole.  As time permits we will post other holes and their changes.

Enjoy!

CCB - 1927



CCB - 1951 just prior to the work by RTJ Sr.



CCB - 1995



CCB - 2002



Hole 6 - 1927



Plan for hole 6 -



Ross plans for 6 -





1931 image - The left bunker directly adjacent to the green was added for the Championship.



October 2012 -




It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or the doer of deeds could have done better.  The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; .....  "The Critic"

Matt Bosela

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 12:11:19 PM »
This is fantastic news.  Good luck to all of those involved with this great project.

Despite living only 30 minutes away, I haven't had the pleasure of visiting but hope to get the chance to see the course in the future.  It sounds like great things are happening at CCB!

JNC Lyon

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 06:33:15 PM »
Wow!  This is one of the most unique golf courses I've played, and it looks like it's about to get better.

Regarding the 6th hole, the new (old) plans for the hole look great, but I wonder if this hole even needs bunkers.  To me, the front bunkers are a much better miss than anywhere else, so why not just leave it as turf and let tee shots kick where they may?

To me, if I may be so bold, it seems like the focus during a CCB renovation should be the non-quarry holes.  The quarry holes already bring plenty of drama and inspiration, while may of the others are lacking something.  If the flat holes on the property (especially the first five holes) get a shot of life, I think it will improve the whole golf course dramatically.
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

JNagle

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 03:56:18 PM »
One of the holes nearing completion is the 14th.  A dogleg right par 4 with a fairway that slopes right to left.  The flattest part of the hole is to the right and was in rough until recently.  Inside the dogleg is the 5th tee and a rest stop.  Many players try to cut the corner off and find themselves on the 5th tee.  The Club decided after the storm on 2006 when many trees were lost that something had to be done to eliminate the desire to play over the rest stop and 5th tee.  Numerous "Ross" like mounds were added along with naturalized grasses.  The rear tee was lowered and moved to the right to direct play left.  A left fairway bunker was eliminated to again encourage play to the left.  Players still tried to play the ball to the right and if not hit properly hung a draw out near the 5th tee.  Golfers!  RTJ took out a number of bunkers (5 total) and decided to add undulations around the green for visual purposes.  The current configuration now restores the hole from 100 yards out from the green to exactly as Ross planned.  The dogleg now is inundated with an echelon of deep bunkers, small scattered mounds, naturalized grasses and the aforementioned mounds.  Going down the right side will certainly lead to the loss of the hole or many additional strokes.  There is no need to go down the right side.  Safety is and will be paramount on this hole.  The fairway was expanded left encouraging play to the left.  Two of the original three "fore" bunkers were reinstated.  Rock throughout the beginning and middle of the fairway is significant.  The green is a fine example of Ross' abilities.  There is a central diagonal swale draining from back right towards left of center at the front of the green.  The green surrounds on the right side were modified to include a roll-off/expanded collar and large mounds/rolls/bunker was removed. 

1927 aerial image -


Ross Plans for the hole -




Donald Ross Restoration Plan -


Hole 14 before -



Hole 14 during -






Old bunker sand from original bunker covered over in the 50's.



Getting ready for sand

It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or the doer of deeds could have done better.  The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; .....  "The Critic"

David Harshbarger

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2012, 07:15:41 AM »
The 14th looks quite a bit more interesting.  A couple of questions:

1. The Ross bunker on the outside of the dogleg on 14 isn't coming back. Is that related to safety on 5 tee, also?

2. The contour lines in the green on 14 don't seem to show on the plan.  Is it still there and is it less or more as described?

3. The green at 6 seems more elongated than in Ross's plans.  Is this typical of what happened between drawing and construction?

Thanks, Dave
The trouble with modern equipment and distance—and I don't see anyone pointing this out—is that it robs from the player's experience. - Mickey Wright

Dan Herrmann

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2012, 08:58:27 AM »
Congratulations!

As a guy that grew in up Tonawanda, I'm VERY proud of the work that's going on there!

Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 09:29:20 AM »
The 14th looks quite a bit more interesting.  A couple of questions:

1. The Ross bunker on the outside of the dogleg on 14 isn't coming back. Is that related to safety on 5 tee, also?

I'M SURPRISED THAT ROSS PLANNED TO BUNKER BOTH SIDES OF #14. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT PINCHED FAIRWAYS AT CCB WERE THE RESULT OF RTJSR INFLUENCE IN THE 1950S. 5 TEE IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FAIRWAY, ON THE INSIDE OF THE DOGLEG.

2. The contour lines in the green on 14 don't seem to show on the plan.  Is it still there and is it less or more as described?

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT #14 GREEN IS PLENTY WICKED, ESPECIALLY AFTER NEGOTIATING THE 430 YARDS AND LARGE NUMBER OF BUNKERS IN THE INTERIM. IT SITS ON A NATURAL HILL, SO GRAVITY CANNOT HELP BUT BREATHE HER INFLUENCE ON EACH AND EVERY ROLL OF THE ORB.

3. The green at 6 seems more elongated than in Ross's plans.  Is this typical of what happened between drawing and construction?

IF YOU ELIMINATE THE SHADED FALL-OFF LINES ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROSS DRAWING, YOU SEE THE ELONGATION OF THE GREEN. I WOULD SAY IT REMAINS AS THE OD (ORIGINAL DONALD) INTENDED IT TO BE.

Thanks, Dave
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2012, 09:42:07 AM »
I have had the enormous pleasure to witness the restoration efforts this fall. The high school team that I coach is fortunate to receive the beneficence of Mr. Nagle and his fellow members and play a series of home matches there. In addition, I sat down with a member involved with the restoration efforts, to write an article published this August in the Buffalo Spree magazine. If you PM me, I'll send you the link (since I'm not entirely into self-promotion.)

The restoration is truly a beautiful thing. I would offer the following deal to the opposing team's coach: let's get the match started and then I'll take you for a tour of the restorative process. It will take us 40 minutes and we'll still see plenty of golf. I promise you that it is something you will want to tell others about and your grandkids, too (since we all want to tell everything to our grandkids.) Every coach took me up on it and every coach had myriad questions about the process. I stopped short of offering the GCA kool-aid, since I didn't want to scare them away.

In addition, the workers on the crew were completely accessible when we had questions for them. We didn't interrupt their work for long, and they would describe the markings, the green expansions (much reclamation of lost putting edges) and the other work that tyros like us would not have conceived. As for the Spanish-speaking members of the crew, well, you KNOW I was in my element.

So here goes. Without stealing any thunder from Mr. Nagle, whose words we should value, I will give my very general perspective on the process.

If you like reclaimed top-shot bunkers...
If you like reclaimed green edges, margins and precincts
If you like removal of pretty trees that interrupt sunlight and air flow...
If you like repositioned bunkers that allow for short-grass chipping areas...
If you like reclaimed short-grass chipping areas...
If you like deepened bunkers that suggest a 1/2 shot penalty...
If you like a reclaimed fairway (one that RTJSR swung ride, that Ross never intended)...
If you like a course that is not par72-obsessed...
If you like a course that does not rely on thick fescue areas to defend par...

I suggest, with all humility, that you stay tuned and attuned to this thread.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Dan Herrmann

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2012, 10:34:11 AM »
Ron. When is the Treehouse tour?  :)

Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2012, 01:02:46 PM »
Ah-HAH so we might have a way of getting DH back to Buffalo, after all.

I'll see what I can do.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 04:03:11 PM »
On another thread JNagle posted some aerials from 1927. Here's a couple more that will get very large when you click on the pix. A real standout in one of the photos is hole #6.   

http://library.buffalo.edu/libraries/asl/maps/aerial/8226-406-1927-200%25.jpg

http://library.buffalo.edu/libraries/asl/maps/aerial/8226-495-1927-200%25.jpg
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 07:24:54 PM »
  If the flat holes on the property (especially the first five holes) get a shot of life, I think it will improve the whole golf course dramatically.

The 1st hole has always had the greatest defense not created by man: prevailing wind. The bunker work, tree removal and tee replacement will give it a shot of life.

The 2nd hole, of similar length to the first yet an opposite-direction bender, also benefited from that prevailing wind. Neither hole is a gimme par.

The 3rd hole avails itself of one of the great fairways around. It lowers then rises then runs fairly flat to the green, a wonderful affair to putt. By this point, even the neophyte has figured out that long is always trouble at CCB. This motif remains until the clubhouse is gained.

The 4th hole was always "the" birdie hole, a fairly simple par five. Every course can use one of these; CCB had two on its front side (#7 being the other.) #4 will be restored as a par four, while #7 will remain a par five.

The 5th hole is a trickster, tempting you to hit driver to cover all of its 305 yards. I suggest that you don't attempt it, unless you are smoking the driver or playing your second 18 of the day. The green is a brilliant affair, with four or five levels.

I've had the good fortune to marshal a number of high school matches over the front nine at CCB. The back nine needs zero defense, yet I think that the front side gets short shrift at times. I look forward to seeing the course again this year.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Dan Herrmann

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 09:02:03 PM »
This course is on my bucket list.   It always had an air of mystery and respect to a high school kid playing Harries munis 30+ years ago.  What more could a club want?  :)

Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Country Club of Buffalo
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 10:06:42 PM »
You should be a rater...

you will come away from a round at CCB with respect for what harries could do (e.g., Two-Mile Creek G & CC). The routing at Sheridan is fantastic.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

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