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Michael Latham

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Caddies at TOC
« on: April 27, 2012, 03:21:54 AM »
The programme, "The Caddies", by the BBC is live for replay on BBC iplayer for another 24 hours.
[http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lb6dk]

Chris Wirthwein

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 07:03:51 PM »
The last time I took a caddie at TOC, (and it will be the last time),  the gent slipped a large flask into the side pocket of my bag on the first tee. Not that he needed it, as he had already consumed plenty before taking my bag. Of course we had fun, but I'm afraid this lad of 40 or so years was not long for this world. He could barely speak...couldn't walk a straight line and must've sung "Oh Flower of Scotland" 100 times over the course of 18 holes. I gave him but a few months to live, his liver all but exhausted and his face permanently ruddy from drink.

I remember his advice on one hole after we had made the turn and headed for home: "Hett ett...et the wee steeple..." he admonished between hiccups. And I did.  The ball flew straight and true. And I immediately began a confident stride to the green. And yet, when we arrived, a distance of some 70 YARDS lay between my ball and the hole.  Sensing my displeasure over what appeared to be a perfectly played approached, my caddie missed not a beat, utteringly loudly for all to hear: "Not thet wee steeple....laddie...the EHTHER wee steeple!" Only then did I notice the many church spires dotting the horizon as I gazed eastward into the old grey toon. My mistake.

My caddie that day may have been on his last legs, but he knew sure and well, as all good Scottish loopers do: when things get rough it's wise to blame the player and not thyself. They are a prideful lot, the caddies of Scotland -- fast to take credit and never to be be found when blame comes looking.

Nowadays, I prefer Strokesaver and trolley over a Scottish caddie.

Colin Macqueen

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 11:27:26 PM »
Chris,
That was a very, very funny story! All the more so for it being true.

"Nowadays, I prefer Strokesaver and trolley over a Scottish caddie." Oh dear once bitten twice shy eh?

I read a story in one of my golf anthologies (but cannot track it down) where there was a caddy (not necessarily St. Andrews) who used to have a pair of binoculars strung around his neck and, in a slightly pickled state, would "read" the green through his binoculars when he got to the fringe. So you were let off quite lightly! Anybody else read about this worthy?

Ach well how the mighty have fallen!

Cheers Colin
"Golf, thou art a gentle sprite, I owe thee much"
The Hielander

Brad Tufts

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 09:53:03 AM »
Last summer at TOC, one of our caddies was from Woburn....


Massachusetts.

So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Kris Shreiner

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 10:34:38 AM »
The total random nature of caddie caliber has been an affliction of the Scottish caddie dynamic that they haven't seen worthy of addressing. It's a shame, because a quality Scottish caddie experience is one of a golfing life's great, treasured memories. Alas, many don't get that, and if the first sampling is poor (or worse!), the aversion to ever trying one again is the unfortunate result.

IF YOU DO SOME HOMEWORK IN ADVANCE, YOU CAN USUALLY SECURE A QUALITY SCOTTISH CADDIE AT THOSE COURSES THAT OFFER THEM. This site can CERTAINLY provide folks with good leads for quite a few of them. IM me if you need some counsel.

The golf industry, globally, is largely ignorant of how to properly create and run quality programs. America, MINUS the horrid outsourcing models, does a decent job, as do some of the Asian countries, though their approach is a bit on the servant level, and quite regimented.
Slowly, the game will rediscover the tremendous benefits that quality caddie programs, where financially viable, can provide.

Cheers,
Kris 8)
"I said in a talk at the Dunhill Tournament in St. Andrews a few years back that I thought any of the caddies I'd had that week would probably make a good golf course architect. We all want to ask golfers of all abilities to get more out of their games -caddies do that for a living." T.Doak

Bill_McBride

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 10:51:06 AM »
The total random nature of caddie caliber has been an affliction of the Scottish caddie dynamic that they haven't seen worthy of addressing. It's a shame, because a quality Scottish caddie experience is one of a golfing life's great, treasured memories. Alas, many don't get that, and if the first sampling is poor (or worse!), the aversion to ever trying one again is the unfortunate result.

IF YOU DO SOME HOMEWORK IN ADVANCE, YOU CAN USUALLY SECURE A QUALITY SCOTTISH CADDIE AT THOSE COURSES THAT OFFER THEM. This site can CERTAINLY provide folks with good leads for quite a few of them. IM me if you need some counsel.

The golf industry, globally, is largely ignorant of how to properly create and run quality programs. America, MINUS the horrid outsourcing models, does a decent job, as do some of the Asian countries, though their approach is a bit on the servant level, and quite regimented.
Slowly, the game will rediscover the tremendous benefits that quality caddie programs, where financially viable, can provide.

Cheers,
Kris 8)

I fully agree with Kris about the benefit of planning ahead to get a top notch caddy at the Old Course.  In 2007 I was going over for the Reverse Programme and decided I wanted a better caddie than the riff raff I got the time before.   >:(   So I checked with some knowledgeable types through friends and got a list of three candidates.  I then emailed the caddiemaster to ask for any of the three.   Bruce Sorley showed up and I have used him again and referred friends to him.   A real Old Course caddie is expert at sizing up your game and really introducing you to the course while suggesting the best lines and plays for you.   I am really looking forward to next time!

He has a great story about caddying for Tiger Woods which I may tell one day!   ;D
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 12:00:51 PM by Bill_McBride »

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 11:50:16 AM »
I have enjoyed the best of caddies as well as those that were drunk, planning on getting drunk during the round or stoned or planned on getting stoned. I have found the happiest thing for me is a trolly and a strokesaver and enjoy watching my playing partners get the luck of the draw.

Kris Shreiner

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 09:53:59 PM »
Bill,

Bruce Sorely is an absolute gem of a caddie. I've always enjoyed a pint and a chat with him. Please give him my regards when you speak with him next.

Cheers,
Kris
« Last Edit: April 30, 2012, 09:55:55 PM by Kris Shreiner »
"I said in a talk at the Dunhill Tournament in St. Andrews a few years back that I thought any of the caddies I'd had that week would probably make a good golf course architect. We all want to ask golfers of all abilities to get more out of their games -caddies do that for a living." T.Doak

Ulrich Mayring

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Re: Caddies at TOC
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 07:20:25 PM »
The cost of golf in St Andrews is so high these days that I really cannot justify taking a caddie. Quite frankly, things are getting out of hand with the Links Trust. They are actually charging £45 for simply changing a player on the tee sheet.

Ulrich
Golf Course Exposé (300+ courses reviewed), Golf CV (how I keep track of 'em)

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