[Adrian_Stiff]

STOCKLEY PARK   Middlesex   1993   Robert Trent Jones
THE WISLEY   Surrey   1991   ROBERT TRENT JONES JNR
MOOR ALLERTON   West Yorkshire   1923   ROBERT TRENT JONES SNR
BALLYBUNNION CASHEN      1982   Robert Trent Jones Snr
ADARE      1995   Robert Trent Jones Snr
ABERDOUR   Fife   1896   Robertson / Anderson
ALNWICK   Northumberland   1907   ROCHESTER/RAE
ELTON FURZE   Cambridgeshire   1993   Roger Fitton
GARNANT PARK   Carmarthen      Roger Jones
HENLLYS HALL   Isle Of Anglesey      Roger Jones
PENNANT PARK   Flintshire      Roger Jones
SHILLINGTREE PARK   West Sussex   1980   ROGER MACE
THE NEWPORT   Monmouthshire   1903   Ross / Fernie
KILSPINDIE   Lothians   1867   Ross / Sayers
SPROWSTON MANOR   Norfolk   1980   Ross McMurray
WOBURN MARQUESS   Buckinghamshire   1997   Ross McMurray
HOLLINS HALL   West Yorkshire      Ross McMurray
MERLON   Cornwall   1991   ROSS OLIVER
PRESTATYN   Denbigshire   1905   S Collins
MANOR OF GROVES   Hertfordshire   1991   S SHARER
WOODHALL SPA HOTCHKIN   Lincolnshire   1891   S V Hotchkin
ST ANDREWS BAY TORRANCE   Fife      Sam Torrance
STAPLEHURST GOLF CENTRE   Kent      SAYNER/JENKINS
ALRESFORD   Hampshire   1890   SCOTT WEBB YOUNG
RICHMOND PARK   Norfolk   1990   SCOTT/JESSUP
DUNSFOLD AERODROME   Surrey   1965   SHARKEY/HAYWARD
ROTHER VALEY GOLF CENTRE   South Yorkshire   1997   SHATTOCK/ROE
BAWBURGH   Norfolk   1978   SHAUN MANSER
BRAMPTON PARK   Cambridgeshire   1991   Simon Gidman
PUCKRUP HALL   Gloucestershire   1992   Simon Gidman
FOREST OF GALTRES   North Yorkshire   1993   Simon Gidman
FRILFORD HEATH BLUE   Oxfordshire   1993   Simon Gidman
WITNEY LAKES   Oxfordshire   1994   Simon Gidman
BRICKHAMPTON COURT   Gloucestershire   1995   Simon Gidman
WATERTON PARK   West Yorkshire   1995   Simon Gidman
STUDLEY WOOD   Oxfordshire   1996   Simon Gidman
VALE ROYAL ABBEY   Cheshire   1998   Simon Gidman
BURHILL NEW   Surrey      Simon Gidman
RHOSS ON SEA   Conwy   1899   SIMPS
SHIRLEY PARK   Surrey   1914   SIMPSON/ FOWLER
BRAXTED PARK   Essex   1953   SIR ALLEN CLARK
COTGRAVE PLACE MASTERS   Nottinghamshire   1991   SMALL/GLASGOW/ALLIS
COTGRAVE PLACE OPEN   Nottinghamshire   1991   SMALL/GLASGOW/ALLIS
BREEDON PRIORY   Leicestershire   1990   SNELL/ASHTON
SPALDING   Lincolnshire   1907   SPENCER/WARD/PRICE
LETHAM GRANGE OLD   Angus   1987   Steel / Smith
BURGESS HILL GOLF CENTRE   West Sussex      STEEL/COLLINS
MID YORKSHIRE   West Yorkshire   1993   Steve Marnoch
MOSSOCK HALL   Lancashire   1996   Steve Marnoch
BLUNDELLS HILL   Merseyside      Steve Marnoch
LOSTWITHIEL   Cornwall   1990   STUART WOOD
PAISLEY   Renfrewshire   1895   STUTT
BIDFORD GRANGE   Warwickshire   1992   SWANN/TILLMAN/GRANGER
RUSHMERE PARK   Wiltshire      T  CROUCH
HUMBERSTON PARK   Lincolnshire      T BARRACLOUGH
THE HAMPSHIRE   Hampshire      T FIDUCUA
EMBANKMENT   Northamptonshire   1975   T H NEAL
ASHFORD MANOR   Middlesex   1898   T HOGG
STYAL   Cheshire   1994   T HOLMES
ILFRACOMBE   Devon   1892   T K WEIR
CRAIL   Fife      T M
WELCOMBE HOTEL   Warwickshire      T MCAUKEY
MARCONI   Warwickshire      T MCAULEY
AYLESBURY GOLF CENTRE   Buckinghamshire   1992   T S Benwell
MOATLANDS   Kent   1993   T Saito
COWDRAY PARK   West Sussex   1920   T SIMPSON
BELTON PARK   Lincolnshire   1890   T WILLIAMSON
ASPECT PARK   Oxfordshire   1988   T WINSLAND
ILFIELD   West Sussex   1927   TAYLOR/ HAWTREE
GUILDFORD   Surrey   1886   TAYLOR/HAWTREE
WYKE GREEN   Middlesex   1928   TAYLOR/HAWTREE
SANDIWAY   Cheshire   1921   Ted Ray
BURY ST EDMUNDS   Suffolk   1922   Ted Ray
HAZLEMERE   Buckinghamshire   1982   Terry Murray
TALL PINES   Somerset   1991   Terry Murray
ISLE OF WEDMORE   Somerset   1992   Terry Murray
THE BRISTOL   Gloucestershire   1998   Terry Murray
KILMARNOCK BARRASIE   Ayrshire   1887   Theodore Moon
EASTWOOD   Renfrewshire   1893   Theodore Moone
WALTON HALL   Cheshire   1972   THOMAS & ALLISS
THE TYTHERINGTON CLUB   Cheshire   1986   THOMAS @& DAWSON
NORTON   Durham   1989   TIM HARPER
SUDBROOK MANOE   Lincolnshire   1991   TIM HUTTON
PORTAL PREMIER   Cheshire   1990   TIM ROUSE
RENAISSANCE      2008   Tom Doak
BATH   Somerset   1880   Tom Dunn
BRAMSHAW MANOR   Hampshire   1880   Tom Dunn
WOODFORD   Essex   1890   Tom Dunn
BUDE & NORTH CORNWALL   Cornwall   1891   Tom Dunn
SHERINGHAM   Norfolk   1891   Tom Dunn
ROYAL MID SURREY (O)   Surrey   1892   Tom Dunn
ROYSTON   Hertfordshire   1892   Tom Dunn
WESTON SUPER MARE   Somerset   1892   Tom Dunn
HAMPSTEAD   Middlesex   1893   Tom Dunn
ROYAL WORLINGTON & NEWMARKET   Suffolk   1893   Tom Dunn
WOKING   Surrey   1893   Tom Dunn
GORING & STREATLEY   Berkshire   1895   Tom Dunn
BECKENHAM PLACE PARK   Kent   1907   Tom Dunn
SAUNTON EAST   Devon   1897   Tom Dunn & Herbert Fower
BROMLEY   Kent   1948   Tom Dunn (orig)
BRIGHTON & HOVE   East Sussex   1887   Tom Dunn re: Park & Braid
LINDRICK   South Yorkshire   1891   Tom Dunn/ Willie Park jnr / Herbert Fowler
LEEN VALLEY GOLF CENTRE   Nottinghamshire   1994   Tom Hodgetts
BIRCHWOOD   Cheshire   1979   Tom MacAuley
LETHAM GRANGE GLENS   Angus      Tom MacAuley
ROYAL BURGESS GOLFING SOCIETY   Midlothian   1735   Tom Morris
GLASGOW   Glasgow   1787   Tom Morris
LANARK   Lanarkshire   1851   Tom Morris
PRESTWICK   Ayrshire   1851   Tom Morris
DUNBAR   Lothians   1856   Tom Morris
KING JAMES VI   Perth & Kinross   1858   Tom Morris
ROYAL NORTH DEVON   Devon   1864   Tom Morris
MACHRIHANISH   Argyll & Bute   1876   Tom Morris
ROYAL DORNOCH      1877   Tom Morris
CULLEN   Aberdeenshire   1879   Tom Morris
KINGHORN MUNICIPAL   Fife   1887   Tom Morris
NAIRN   Inverness   1887   Tom Morris
MORAY OLD   Moray   1889   Tom Morris
NEWCASTLE CO. DOWN      1889   Tom Morris
CALLENDER   Perth & Kinross   1890   Tom Morris
TAIN   Inverness   1890   Tom Morris
KETTERING   Northamptonshire   1891   Tom Morris
WALLASEY   Merseyside   1891   Tom Morris
WARKWORTH   Northumberland   1891   Tom Morris
CASTLETOWN   Isle of Man   1892   Tom Morris
MUIRFIELD   Lothians   1892   Tom Morris
HELENSBURGH   Argyll & Bute   1893   Tom Morris
KING EDWARD BAY   Isle of Man   1893   Tom Morris
LAHINCH OLD      1893   Tom Morris
BRIDGE OF ALLEN   Stirlingshire   1895   Tom Morris
TARLAND   Aberdeenshire   1908   Tom Morris
WEST KILBRIDE   Ayrshire   1893   Tom Morris & James Braid
FORFAR   Angus   1871   Tom Morris / James Braid
ALYTH   Perth & Kinross   1894   Tom Morris / James Braid
LUFFNESS   Lothians   1894   Tom Morris / james Braid
z      1892   Tom Morris / Mackenzie
ST ANDREWS NEW   Fife   1895   Tom Morris / W Hall Blyth
ASKERNISH   West Coast   1891   Tom Morris : Martin Ebert
ST ANDREWS OLD   Fife      Tom Morris*
DEWSBURY DISTRICT   West Yorkshire   1891   TOM MORRIS/ALLISS/ THOMAS
BAILDON   West Yorkshire   1896   TOM MORRIS/J BRAID
COUNTY LOUTH      1892   Tom Simpson
CRUDEN BAY   Aberdeenshire   1899   Tom Simpson
BALLYBUNION OLD      1893   Tom Simpson/ P Murphy
FAIRHAVEN   Lancashire   1895   Tom Steer
SETTLE   North Yorkshire   1895   Tom Vardon
ST AUGUSTINES   Kent   1907   Tom Vardon
COOMBE WOOD   Surrey   1904   Tom Williamson
SLEAFORD   Lincolnshire   1905   Tom Williamson
CHILWELL MANOR   Nottinghamshire   1906   Tom Williamson
RADCLIFFE ON TRENT   Nottinghamshire   1909   Tom Williamson
BEESTON FIELDS   Nottinghamshire   1923   Tom Williamson
WOLLATON PARK   Nottinghamshire   1927   Tom Williamson
ASHOVER   Derbyshire      Tom Williamson
WINDLESHAM   Surrey   1994   Tommy Horton
ST PIERRE PARK   Channel Islands      Tony Jacklin
THE CRAYTHORNE   Staffordshire   1972   Tony Wright
CELTC MANOR ROMAN   Monmouthshire   1995   Trent Jones
CELTIC MANOR COLDRA WOODS   Monmouthshire   1995   Trent Jones
CELTIC MANOR 2010   Monmouthshire   1999   Trent Jones jnr
CELTIC MANOR 2010         Trent Jones Jnr/ McMurray
WORLDHAM PARK   Hampshire   1993   TROTH/WHIDBOURNE
HEXHAM   Northumberland   1892   VARDON/CAIRD
COVENTRY   Warwickshire   1887   VARDON/HAWTREE
ABBOTSLEY   Cambridgeshire   1986   Vivienne Saunders
BARKWAY PARK   Hertfordshire   1992   Vivienne Saunders
ABBOTSLEY 2   Cambridgeshire      Vivienne Saunders
CROMWELL   Cambridgeshire      Vivienne Saunders
SEDGLEY   Staffordshire   1992   W G Cox
WALTON HEATH NEW   Surrey   1903   W H FOWLER
WALTON HEATH OLD   Surrey   1903   W H FOWLER
LITTLESTONE   Kent   1888   W LAIDLAW PURVES/ A MACKENZIE
BRUNTSFIELD LINKS   Midlothian   1761   W Park / MacKenzie / Hawtree
LAUDER   Borders   1896   W PARK J
BURNTISLAND   Fife   1898   W PARK/ J BRAID
MULLION   Cornwall   1895   W SICH
NEW ZEALAND   Surrey   1895   W SIMPSON/ FERGUSON
SEDBURGH   Cumbria   1896   W SQUIRES
KIRKBY LONSDALE   Cumbria      W SQUIRES
MILLBROOK   Bedfordshire   1980   W SUTHERLAND
POTTERGATE   Lincolnshire      W T BAILEY
WELLOW   Hampshire   1991   W WILTSHIRE
BENTON HALL   Essex   1993   WALKER / COX
THE ESSEX GOLF COMPLEX   Essex   1993   WALKER / COX
SUTTON GREEN   Surrey   1994   WALKER/DAVIES
HINTON DAUBNAY   Hampshire      was 7300 yards
LOCH LOMOND   Dunbartonshire   1994   Weiskopf / Morrish
SOUTHERN VALLEY   Kent   1999   WELLER/RICHARDSON
DOUGLAS PARK   Dunbartonshire   1897   WF
COTTINGHAM   East Yorkshire   1984   WILES/LITTEN
ALDEBURGH   Suffolk   1884   Wilie Fernie & J Thompson
FARDEW   West Yorkshire   1993   Will Adamson
ROMANBY   North Yorkshire   1993   Will Adamson
CROW NEST PARK   West Yorkshire   1994   Will Adamson
ROBIN HOOD   South Yorkshire   1996   Will Adamson
CASTERTON   Cumbria      Will Adamson
ST FILLANS   Perth & Kinross   1903   Willie Auchterlonie
ISLAY   Argyll & Bute   1891   Willie Campbell
THE MACHRIE   Western isles   1891   Willie Campbell
LONDON SCOTTISH   Surrey   1865   Willie Dunn & Tom Dunn
WIMBLEDON COMMON   Surrey   1908   Willie Dunn & Tom Dunn
DUMFRIES & GALLOWAY   Dumfries & Galloway   1880   Willie Fernie
SANQUHAR   Dumfries & Galloway   1894   Willie Fernie
SEACROFT   Lincolnshire   1895   Willie Fernie
SHISKINE   Ayrshire   1896   Willie Fernie
MACHRIE BAY   Ayrshire   1900   Willie Fernie
STRATHENDRICK   Stirlingshire   1901   Willie Fernie
NEW CUMNOCK   Ayrshire   1902   Willie Fernie
APPLEBY   Cumbria   1903   Willie Fernie
SOUTHERNDOWN   Mid Glamorgan   1905   Willie Fernie
WHITSAND BAY   Cornwall   1906   Willie Fernie
WHINHILL   Renfrewshire   1911   Willie Fernie
DUMFRIES & COUNTY   Dumfries & Galloway   1912   Willie Fernie
CRAIGIE HILL   Perth & Kinross   1911   Willie Fernie / Anderson
COLVEND   Dumfries & Galloway   1905   Willie Fernie re: J Souter
CARDOSS   Dunbartonshire   1895   Willie Fernie re: James Braid
GLENCORSE   Midlothian   1890   Willie Park
BIGGAR   Lanarkshire   1895   Willie Park
WESTERN GAILES   Ayrshire   1897   Willie Park
MAGDALENE FIELDS   Northumberland   1903   Willie Park
ALTON   Hampshire   1908   Willie Park
MONTROSE MEDAL   Angus   1562   Willie Park (1903)
WEST LOTHIAN   West Lothian   1892   Willie Park / Adams / Middleton
FRINTON   Essex   1895   Willie Park / Harry Colt
SUNNINGDALE OLD   Surrey   1900   Willie Park / Harry Colt
PETERHEAD   Aberdeenshire   1841   Willie Park / James Braid
GRANTOWN-ON-SPEY   Inverness   1890   Willie park / James Braid / Brown
ST BOSWELLS   Borders   1899   Willie Park / John Shade
STRATHPEFFER SPA   Inverness   1888   Willie park / Tom Morris
SELKIRK   Borders   1883   Willie Park Jnr
FORMBY   Merseyside   1884   Willie Park Jnr
NEWBIGGIN   Northumberland   1884   Willie Park Jnr
INNERLEITHEN   Borders   1886   Willie Park Jnr
NOTTS   Nottinghamshire   1887   Willie Park Jnr
GLASGOW GAILES   Ayrshire   1892   Willie Park Jnr
JEDBURGH   Borders   1892   Willie Park Jnr
BABERTON   Midlothian   1893   Willie Park Jnr
TORWOODLEE   Borders   1895   Willie Park Jnr
HUNTERCOMBE   Oxfordshire   1901   Willie Park Jnr
SHOOTER'S HILL   Kent   1903   Willie Park Jnr
NORTH MIDDLESEX   Middlesex   1905   Willie Park Jnr
BURHILL OLD   Surrey   1907   Willie Park Jnr
KNEBWORTH   Hertfordshire   1908   Willie Park Jnr
STONEHAM   Hampshire   1908   Willie Park Jnr
TEMPLE   Berkshire   1909   Willie Park Jnr
PARKSTONE   Dorset   1910   Willie Park Jnr
TYNEMOUTH   Tyne & Wear   1913   Willie Park Jnr
BERWICK ON TWEED   Northumberland   1890   Willie Park re: Hawtree & Braid
GIFFORD   Lothians   1904   Willie Watt
BATHGATE   West Lothian   1892   Williw Park
TEST VALLEY   Hampshire   1992   WRIGHT/DUDLEY
FOUR MARKS   Hampshire   1994   WRIGHT/FALLOON/WRIGGLESWORTH
LEICESTERSHIRE FOREST   Leicestershire   1991   YORK/FIXTER
PAVENHAM PARK   Bedfordshire   1994   Zac Thompson

[Tom Kelly]

I think Coxmoor Golf Club in Nottinghamshire should be down as a Tom Williamson design. I can't see it anywhere, so might be one of your 'unknowns' at the moment?

And the current course at Radcliffe-on-Trent is actually nearly all the work of Frank Pennick in the early 70's. The original Tom Williamson course is mainly under the A52 now. I believe this was also missed off the NLE thread if it counts as an NLE?!

[James Boon]

Adrian,

Hope you got my message about Notts GC?

Thomas,

That's my understanding of those two courses. I think several other Tom Williamson courses are missing as well, so I'll hopefully be able to fill Adrian in accordingly when I've a bit more time?

With knowledge of Coxmoor and Radcliffe, are you from the area?

Cheers,

James

[Tom Kelly]

James,

Yes I am from Nottingham, commenting on Coxmoor, Radcliffe and Sherwood Forest on one of the other threads kind of gives it away a bit doesn't it?! I've grown up as a member at Radcliffe hence the local knowledge but have always glanced an envious eye up north to Notts, Sherwood, Lindrick, Worksop and Coxmoor. I assume you one of those fortunate and sensible people who is a members at Notts? If I was planning to stay in the area longer I would have definitely tried to move up to Notts or Sherwood but it seems I will be moving away onto pastures new at some point soon, that is if anybody in golf course design or construction industry will/can afford to give me a job!

Tom

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Adrian,

Thank you for sharing all this hard work with us. I agree with whoever it was that suggested getting it made into a permanent In My Opinion feature. That will give you the editorial control over updates, corrections and so on. It was Ran's suggestion that this was how we should handle the NLE thread and it seems to have worked.

Mark.

[Adrian_Stiff]

I will try and collate these corrections, thanks Mark, Mark, Thomas and Boony.

I can put tgether a word document of the 2700 UK golf courses...many are vacant in terms of date and architect some have wrong date, some have had overhauls and redesigns etc.... How should I put this together and circulate to intrested parties?

Would it make sense to produce a database County by County?

[Tony_Muldoon]

Adrian thats a massive undertaking.   It's a shame the site can't handle an eXcel document as playing around with it might make it easier to take it all in.


I think county by county would work best in word or on here.


I alos think you should post the unkowns as it may be easier to "correct" some of them rather than spot thier ommission.

Thanks.

[Niall C]

I will try and collate these corrections, thanks Mark, Mark, Thomas and Boony.

I can put tgether a word document of the 2700 UK golf courses...many are vacant in terms of date and architect some have wrong date, some have had overhauls and redesigns etc.... How should I put this together and circulate to intrested parties?

Would it make sense to produce a database County by County?

Adrian,

Fortunately or unfortunately for you depending on your point of view, I think you will be stuck with deciding what goes in and what doesn't so I think its up to you to decide how you want the info passed on to you. From my point of view an alphabetical list of (Scottish) courses on a word document to work from would work best for me but appreciate that you might not have the ability to order them that way without a lot of work.

Niall

[Mark_Rowlinson]

Adrian,

I think it is important for you to retain control of your information. That's why we went down the In my opinion route for the NLEs - people can e-mail, IM or post on GCA their comments, amendments, errors and omissions, but I have the master document still in my control (it's too big to post in one piece on here anyway).

As far as MacKenzie is concerned if you were to contact Neil Crafter he has the master lists of all the MacKenzie research done so far.

Best of luck with this - it is the start of something important. I'm sure we'll all chip in with additional information.

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