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Matt_Ward

Re: espn 50 hardest courses
« Reply #75 on: June 14, 2010, 11:00:23 AM »
Jonathan:

Courses run "circles" around CD.

Really ?

Let me see people play it with greens like glass and the rough just waiting to grab the slightest miscue.

If you are mentioning specific courses please let me know. You get cool air and heavy wind blowing through CD with the above mentioned elements and heaven help anyone who sprays just a tad or has the slightest twitch in their strokes.

I'm not saying it's an automatic when excessive length courses are thrown into the pic -- but place courses at 6,500 yards and CD is certainly a solid candidate in that regard.

Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Re: espn 50 hardest courses
« Reply #76 on: June 14, 2010, 02:10:48 PM »
The Ocean Course is only really hard if you play the wrong set of tees.  If player's don't bite off more than they can chew, it generally is a very enjoyable round (pending the wind is blowing less than 20mph -- once that happens, all bets are off).  I've played it over 300 times so I know my way around the course.  The reason that it's hard is that Pete Dye made it "look" hard.  Standing on the tees, players see nothing but trouble and very little fairway so the tend to swing out of their shoes.  However, once they reach the fairways, they find they're giantic.  It's Pete playing with their heads.  Additionally, there are no forced carries into the greens except for No. 17.  The greens aren't tricked up.  In fact, they're fairly flat.  And, they are only elevated if it is expected to be using a short iron to hit into them.  Otherwise, they are designed to allow balls to bounce onto them.  If players play a "connect-the-dots" type of games, hitting fairways and greens, rather than playing power golf, players can score quite well there...

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re: espn 50 hardest courses
« Reply #77 on: June 14, 2010, 02:47:30 PM »
Diamante in Hot Springs ahead of Oak Hill??????
I really dont get it...they cannot possibly have played Oak Hill and it not be in the top 50...it is the hardest I have ever played...but perhaps they dont use the back tees??
still does not make any sense.
The fiarways at Diamnate are about 80 yards wide..everywhere....

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