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Tim Gavrich

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Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« on: August 10, 2009, 10:46:08 PM »
I played the Parkland course today and found it very, very impressive.  I had last played it five or so years ago with my father and didn't remember more than a few holes until my round today.  If I remember correctly, whereas the Heathland course is certainly an early-ish Tom Doak creation and the Moorland course is a P.B. Dye layout, the Parkland course has a somewhat checkered lineage.  If anyone has some insight, I'd appreciate it.

In short, I believe the Parkland course is one of the most underrated on the Grand Strand.  It bucks many preconceived notions about Myrtle Beach golf being bland "buffet golf."  Plenty of courses are like that, but none of them are at Legends.  Parkland kicks off with a pretty easy 380-ish straightaway par 4, but unlike most courses in the area, nearly all of the surface of the green is obscured even from wedge range, making things uncertain and a little more interesting.  Many other greens at Parkland are at least very partially hidden behind mounds and huge, deep, sheer-lipped bunkers.  The putting surfaces themselves range from merely large to enormous, and have very good interior movement.  The drivable par 4 9th hole has three or four separate sections and with the pin up front today, I was able to play a bump-and-run (yes, the bermuda fairways were rather firm in places, which is a rarity in MB) up the slope in front of the green.  There was also the option of hitting a ball up the big slope behind the hole in order to let it roll back towards the cup.  Ahh...options!

The par 3s at parkland are probably the course's best feature.  They increase in difficulty and quality as the round progresses.  The 5th is 200 from the tips and sits in a very peaceful part of the property, with a pond that wraps around the right and back sides of the green.  I cannot think of any other holes in the area that have a pond over the back of the green in this fashion...I wish there were more, as I found it a very cool feature.  The hole encouraged a running long iron, but to a back pin, it's dicey.  My favorite par 3 on the golf course, though, is the 230 yard 16th, which is a Lowcountry Biarritz-esque par 3.5.  The green has a sideways dip that is more gradual and wider than the classic Biarritz green.  The green is also angled from front-right to back-left.  I wanted to drop a bag of golf balls this afternoon and spend an hour trying to hit a little cut 3 wood to the back pin; what a neat hole.

I'd love to hear any insight about the architectural history of the Parkland course or anyone's thoughts on the course itself.

Cheers.

--Tim
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CJ Carder

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Re: Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 11:46:58 PM »
Tim - did you happen to take any pictures?  How long are you down in MB?  I'll be back down around Labor Day if you're still there.

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 11:51:49 PM »
Tim - did you happen to take any pictures?  How long are you down in MB?  I'll be back down around Labor Day if you're still there.
CJ--

Alas, I was without my camera save for my iPhone and alas, we're heading home to CT this Thursday.  If you are in search of courses to try, I can offer suggestions if you wish.
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Eric Smith

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Re: Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 01:19:28 PM »

I'd love to hear any insight about the architectural history of the Parkland course or anyone's thoughts on the course itself.

Cheers.

--Tim


Tim:

I stayed there with friends a few years back and loved having the 8th hole directly off of our back patio.  We had some serious fun time playing wedge games after our 36 hole days.

Parkland is my least favorite of the three on site, but still a nice gc. You sort of get spoiled with the openess of the Moorland and Heathland layouts and IMO the Parkland feels a little cramped at times.  I do love the 9th green and that awesome front bunker!

IIRC, Tom Doak was originally the architect for this course, having just completed the Heathland for owner Larry Young.  Something happened and they parted ways during the process and Mr. Young takes credit for the design of Parkland... it's on here somewhere...


EDIT:  Found it (read below:)


Gil Hanse and I shaped about 7-8 holes on the Parkland course before Larry decided it wasn't big and bold enough.  We had been trying to be subtle, so we realized we had a problem.  We asked Larry to show us what he wanted, and he directed the shaping on the first hole himself, and we didn't like that, so we decided we ought to part ways ... I didn't see the point of working on the course if I was sure it wasn't going to be as good as the one I had built there three years earlier.  It didn't have very much to do with the routing, it had to do with the shaping.

The holes we built which exist in something like their original form were 7, 8, 12, 13, 15 and 16.  
« Last Edit: August 11, 2009, 01:31:52 PM by Eric Smith »

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 02:18:52 PM »
Eric--

Thanks very much for finding that old thread.  I thought I remembered it being discussed in the past.
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A.G._Crockett

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Re: Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 07:52:04 PM »
This is another one of those things that is fuzzy in my memory, but am I correct that Larry Young hired Mike Strantz to finish at least the bunkers (if not more) of Parkland after Young and Doak parted company, and the work at Parkland led to Strantz getting the job at Caledonia?  I could be wrong about all of this, but I seem to remember having read that at some point.  (Mike Whitaker, where are you?)

In any event, the last time I played at the Legends Resort, Doak's name was on the Heathland scorecard, PB Dye's name was on the Moorland card, but there was no GCA attributed on the Parkland card.  To whatever extent that has resulted in Parkland staying under the radar, it is a shame, because it is an excellent course, vastly superior (IMO) to Moorland and only a few notches below Heathland.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Eric Smith

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Re: Parkland course at Legends Resort; Myrtle Beach, SC
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 08:36:12 PM »
You are corrrect A.G. re: Strantz and Parkland.  See below:

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,32005.msg628244/

[caveat] I just noticed the website I linked these images from credit the Parkland course to A. Mackenzie and G.C. Thomas and that shoot includes some of the same images as shown below.  Now unless these men have arisen from the dead something is surely not right here.....




























Most of those pictures of from the Parkland Course.

Although Tom ditched the project and understandably disavows this course from his resume, the course is interesting as a number of really good holes are from his palette, and even more interestingly, is the world's only Tom Doak/Mike Strantz accidental collaboration, as most of the bunkering was done later by Strantz for the owner Larry Young, who takes overall design credit (which seems a bit absurd).

At least that's how I understand it.   Tom Doak may come and correct me.
Only the last picture (and maybe the first, I can't tell) are of the Heathland course.  I haven't seen it in about six years, but the shrubs have grown amazingly big!

Mike Cirba is generally correct about the provenance of the Parkland Course.  It's part mine and part Mike Strantz's; Gil Hanse built some of the bunkers pictured as well, when he was working with me.  But I don't want credit for a course that's only part mine, and neither did Mike S. apparently, because I'm sure Larry Young would have given him the credit if he'd wanted it.

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