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Steve Salmen

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Does Dr. Mac contradict himself with these words.......
« on: May 07, 2010, 01:27:53 PM »
From "The Spirit of St. Andrews"

Page 37 "In the United States, golf courses are becoming more and more perfect. American golfers owe a debt of gratitude to Charles Blair Macdonald, who was not only the first United States Amateur Champion but the father of golf architecture."

Page 50 "Square, flat greens and geometrical bunkers have not only been an eyesore upon the whole landscape, but have detracted from the infinite variety of play which is the heritage of the game."

Thoughts?
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Michael Dugger

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Re: Does Dr. Mac contradict himself with these words.......
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 01:38:36 PM »
I think we need some context to properly analyze those quotes...
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What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

Jason Topp

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Re: Does Dr. Mac contradict himself with these words.......
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 02:29:38 PM »
No.

See his principles and his many writings about the importance of natural appearance of a golf course.  

MacDonald's courses appeared more natural than what commonly existed before.
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Matthew Mollica

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Re: Does Dr. Mac contradict himself with these words.......
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 10:44:22 PM »

MacKenzie could only be viewed as condradicting himself here,
if one believed that MacKenzie viewed square, flat greens and geometrical bunkers as being perfect,
which I'm sure he didn't.

MM
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"The truth about golf courses has a slightly different expression for every golfer. Which of them, one might ask, is without the most definitive convictions concerning the merits or deficiencies of the links he plays over? Freedom of criticism is one of the last privileges he is likely to forgo."

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Does Dr. Mac contradict himself with these words.......
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 10:48:08 PM »
Quote from: Steve Salmen on May 07, 2010, 01:27:53 PM
From "The Spirit of St. Andrews"

Page 37 "In the United States, golf courses are becoming more and more perfect. American golfers owe a debt of gratitude to Charles Blair Macdonald, who was not only the first United States Amateur Champion but the father of golf architecture."

Page 50 "Square, flat greens and geometrical bunkers have not only been an eyesore upon the whole landscape, but have detracted from the infinite variety of play which is the heritage of the game."

Thoughts?

Steve,

How did you draw the conclusion that CBM designed square, flat greens and geometrical bunkers ?
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