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Mark_Rowlinson

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Britain from the air 7
« on: March 05, 2009, 11:19:39 AM »
At the request of Bill McBride here is Delamere Forest:



Delamere Forest is a course I could never tire of playing. It’s a Fowler layout originally from 1910 but later altered by him. Although it has the word Forest in its title, trees are rarely a part of the architecture. In fact in the days of steam the old engines (aged engines were sent here to die) which plied the Cheshire Lines railway alongside the course frequently produced enough sparks to set fire to the vegetation. The value of the course in terms of the mineral rights of the land must be considerable – you can see how close the present day quarrying is. Delamere is a small club (400 members) and they do not accept visiting societies, so as a casual visitor you can almost always turn up and play, weekends included. Considering the quality of the course the green fee is modest. http://www.delameregolf.co.uk/indexx.html


I’ll share with you one or two of the better courses in my part of the country.



Prestbury is a fine Colt course dating from 1920. If you play here make sure you seek out the course manager. He’s a real Colt enthusiast, having previously worked at Wentworth, and has a valuable collection of drawings. The aerial gives no indication of the undulating nature of the ground, which is at its most brutal on the 9th hole, a lengthy par 4 which climbs steeply over the last half of the fairway. http://www.prestburygolfclub.com/




Sandiway is probably the hardest of the Cheshire courses on which to play to your handicap (apart from Royal Liverpool) and certainly those professionals who play it regularly rate it highly. It has one of the most inviting opening holes I know, driving from a high-ground tee to a gently rising fairway far below. The toughest holes are undoubtedly the 10th, 12th and 14th especially when played from the back tees. Ted Ray and Colt are the named architects, although some alterations were made when the Northwich by-pass was built. http://www.sandiwaygolf.co.uk/



Mere is unique in this part of the country in being a country club. It was established in the 1930s and the course was laid out by James Braid. How much influence George Duncan had (he was the inaugural professional) is not known, but he is credited with being involved in contemporary newspaper accounts. Braid returned to realign a short hole (14th) and otherwise the only change has been to move the 18th green from close to the clubhouse to the edge of the Mere to provide a spectacular finish. The early holes are mostly flat, but from the 15th to the end the golf is of a very high order. Maintenance is exemplary. Interestingly many of the bunkers in this aerial are big ones made out of two or more Braid bunkers. Some of them are now being divided up to make several smaller ones. Mere has hosted some big professional events in the past with a roster of big name winners from Fred Daly to Nick Faldo and Ernie Els.
http://www.meregolf.co.uk/



Stockport is one of the friendliest clubs around. It was designed by Sandy Herd and built by the club’s first professional Peter Barrie. He lavished a great deal of attention to the detail of construction and the approaches to the greens are evidence of this, if you still play running shots. One hole, the 3rd, was altered by Braid at about the same time that he laid out Mere. Otherwise, the only alterations are to the bunkering – Hawtree relatively recently – although there is a new 11th hole which I have not yet seen.
http://www.stockportgolf.co.uk/



For many years central and southern Cheshire had little in the way of golf provision. This was agricultural land, excellent for raising cattle and providing milk for Cheshire Cheese, but not for growing the sort of grasses preferred by golfers. The only early course of note was Crewe, a few miles outside the town famous as a major railway junction and former railway works. I do not know its provenance and have played the course only once but it is attractively rural and has a number of excellent two-shot holes. It has produced some internationally famous amateur golfers, not least the venerable Roy Smethurst.
http://www.crewegolfclub.co.uk/



In the insalubrious suburbs of Stockport is a really characterful MacKenzie course which is reasonably intact. The 10th green is said to be the first so-called MacKenzie green and the 13th is one of the most impossibly difficult par 4s I have ever encountered! Even the early holes on high ground by the clubhouse have a great deal more interest than the ground suggests – MacKenzie at his deceptive best! The 18th is a bit of a thrombosis hill, but never miss an opportunity to play it. The staff and members are warmly welcoming to visitors.
http://www.rvgc.co.uk/




There are also four part-MacKenzie courses left in Cheshire. This one, Bramall Park, is thought to have brought in James Braid in the 1930s to undo what was deemed to be excessive difficulties in MacKenzie’s 1920 design. I was a member here for a few years. It grows lush grass which makes for destructive rough! Bramall Park is close to Bramall Hall in the village of Bramhall where there is also a (most agreeable) Bramhall Golf Club. Take care with the spellings! 
http://www.bramallparkgolfclub.co.uk/




Hazel Grove is perhaps the saddest case in that some of MacKenzie’s course was compulsorily purchased for the building of a new road which never came into being. Among the lost holes was a particularly renowned 17th, Spion Kop. New land was available for a rearrangement of the course and additional holes were designed by Tom Macauley. I was told that the club wanted to re-purchase the old land but was not allowed to. Maybe one day the lost holes can be reinstated.
http://www.hazelgrovegolfclub.com/



Didsbury is another old MacKenzie course which suffered at the hands of the road builders. When the M60 Manchester ring road was built it passed straight through MacKenzie’s course. Peter Alliss and David Thomas were called in to rearrange what was left. It is not their fault that five holes are isolated from the rest of the course on the far side of the motorway next to a vast rubbish collecting dump! The holes in the top right of the picture are on neighbouring Northenden GC.
http://www.didsburygolfclub.com/



Prenton, on the Wirral, is the other part-MacKenzie course in what I still call Cheshire, although bureaucrats have deemed that this is now called Merseyside. How much of MacKenzie’s layout survives I cannot say, but I think it is probably quite a lot. MacKenzie apparently restored the course after the First World War. Hawtrees made alterations in 1978, including a completely new 18th hole, which has a notably mischievous green. Interestingly the outward half is par 36, the inward half par 35 but the back nine is about 300 yards longer than the front nine.
http://www.prentongolfclub.co.uk/



Finally, Wilmslow. It is my home club which dates back to 1889. It moved to its present site in 1903 and the course has been developed by a long list of architects: Herd, Braid, Simpson, Duncan, Fred Hawtree, Cotton, Pennink, Lawrie, David Thomas. I am pleased that they have retained some cross bunkers. While they are of no concern to the big hitters of today they are perfectly placed for my very average sort of golf. It is one of the best conditioned courses in Cheshire, a regular venue for county events and has been a host to European Tour events and Open Championship regional qualifying.

Obviously there are many more courses in this part of the world that I should like to share with you. Another day, perhaps.

Charlie Goerges

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 11:28:16 AM »
Not to sidetrack this latest in a wonderful series of threads (especially for an addict of maps and aerials like myself), but is it just me or does the UK have much better golf course names than the US? Is it because the place names are cooler or because the golfers are better at choosing names for courses?
Severally on the occasion of everything that thou doest, pause and ask thyself, if death is a dreadful thing because it deprives thee of this. - Marcus Aurelius

Bill_McBride

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 02:16:55 PM »
Thanks for the Delamere Forest.  We really liked the way the 9th and 18th greens and the 1st and 10th tees all lined up neatly down below the clubhouse.  It's a very attractive club.

One more Cheshire if you have time to add it, wonderful Wallasey, scene of the closing singles matches at Buda Cup 2006!

Thanks in advance.

Jon Wiggett

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 07:41:41 AM »
Not to sidetrack this latest in a wonderful series of threads (especially for an addict of maps and aerials like myself), but is it just me or does the UK have much better golf course names than the US? Is it because the place names are cooler or because the golfers are better at choosing names for courses?

Charlie,

thats because in the UK most courses are named after the town, area or estate that they are associated with. This way names such as the Concession or The Links at... I wonder how 'Old MacDonald' as name fairs ;)

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 09:27:55 AM »
Bill, I intend to do a feature on the Wirral some time, but here it is for now:


Tom

Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009, 09:34:10 AM »
Ahh Wilmslow.  I watched Howard Clark shoot 66 round there in what must have been the last ever Martini International tournament in 1983 only for it to be rained out!

I particularly remember from my own games there the wonderful dropping par 3 ninth hole !

Happy days


Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2009, 10:13:43 AM »
Tom, You reminded me - I forgot to put the link to the website:

http://www.wilmslowgolfclub.co.uk/

Where do you live now?

Bill_McBride

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2009, 10:27:51 AM »
Bill, I intend to do a feature on the Wirral some time, but here it is for now:



Great golf course, Mark, thaniks for the aerial.  Only one really blah hole, #7 par 5, and even then the OB right made one pay attention!  The finish is very stout.  The original painting of Bobby Jones in the clubhouse is a special tribute.

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2009, 02:29:11 PM »
See all that unused land in the middle of Wallasey. It looks (from the air) as if it has potential. Anyone want to redesign the course as Ben has done for Prestwick?

Neil_Crafter

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 01:29:59 AM »
Mark
Great work on the Cheshire aerials.
Interesting to note that Mackenzie redesigned the Bramhall GC in 1919, in addition to designing Bramall Park. Probably not much left of his Bramhall GC work by now though.
cheers Neil

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 05:13:08 AM »
Neil, Thank you for pointing out that Bramhall has a MacKenzie heritage. The club doesn't mention it on its website http://www.bramhallgolfclub.com/ or on such entries as the R&A Handbook. You learn so much on this site from people on the other side of the earth! Here's the aerial:


Neil_Crafter

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Re: Britain from the air 7
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 06:15:57 AM »
Mark
No its not mentioned on their website but it is in their history book. This is a not unusual situation and what makes Mac research so much fun!
Here's what we have on Bramhall:

Not listed in DSH, Hawtree or C&W. Confirmed revision by AM in 1919 in club's history book as reported in letter from club. History book records that, "As well as the restoration of the course to its pre-war condition, certain improvements were planned. Dr. Mackenzie, the well-known golf course architect, was asked to visit the Club and he undertook to supervise personally the whole scheme of improvements. These involved the re-designing and lengthening of certain holes, with the provision of additional bunkers where necessary. He also advocated mole draining on quite a large scale to overcome the wet conditions which prevailed over most of the course. The work was duly carried out at a cost of £250."

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