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archie_struthers

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Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« on: January 30, 2021, 07:45:26 AM »
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Eye popping yes but the Fry-Straka team continues to build some exceptional holes  with their redo of the old Sand Barrens. Took a ride down the Parkway the other day with one of their esteemed loopers and we played a few holes and walked them all. Lost a couple bucks so had to use the excuse that I was concentrating on the architecture. Many here tend to eschew the moving of dirt but despite the huge "big fill" they are doing the tie ins appear exceptional. Not quite a finished product but it's big , it's fun and I think they are succeeding in making it playable for a lot of skill levels. Exciting stuff for Cape May County!

Ian Mackenzie

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2021, 10:39:53 AM »
I think this is the course where Scott Bordner, former super at Chicago Golf Club, went to work.
That dude knows how to grow grass and push turf.


He referred one of his assts to our club (as our super) a few years ago and we have benefitted enormously.

archie_struthers

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2021, 11:59:09 AM »
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Ian you are right Scott is there. Shows they have no limits to getting the right people in place. Met him very nice but my contacts say he is as you elucidated... exceptional!

Matt_Cohn

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2021, 08:11:23 PM »
I've been curious about this place after following them on Instagram for a while. The holes look pretty cool, but some of them look particularly manufactured from the surrounding landscape—I'm just saying that from seeing some photos, though, and I really can't tell, so I'm asking. Or maybe the surroundings just need to grow in a little. Thoughts?






mike_malone

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2021, 08:26:45 PM »
Matt,


 I played some of the changed holes last year. There is one elevated area that has been added which is certainly manufactured.
AKA Mayday

archie_struthers

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2021, 09:11:24 PM »
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Manufactured is such an ugly word to a GCA. If you look at most golf courses the grasses and bunkers are foreign to the rest of the landscape in the surrounding area. Not much bent grass growing at ridiculously low heights anywhere in nature around here, or for that matter in any of the states where I have lived.






mike_malone

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2021, 09:17:10 PM »
8)


Manufactured is such an ugly word to a GCA. If you look at most golf courses the grasses and bunkers are foreign to the rest of the landscape in the surrounding area. Not much bent grass growing at ridiculously low heights anywhere in nature around here, or for that matter in any of the states where I have lived.


Archie,
  I love stirring things up. I await the completion of the whole project to assess the course but that one feature ain’t South Jersey.
AKA Mayday

archie_struthers

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2021, 09:21:33 PM »
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There are stirrers and shakers Mayday, don't sell yourself short :-* 

Paul Rudovsky

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2021, 09:36:18 PM »
In October 2018 I played 20 of the 27 holes that existed before they started redoing the place and said to myself it had great bones and they looked to be doing interesting stuff at that point but it was way too early form an amateur like moi to figure out.  Would not be at all surprised if it comes out being spectacular

Joe Bausch

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2021, 07:08:14 AM »
I played there in August of last year.  It is quite the project!  Photos for your dining and dancing pleasure:


http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/ULNGC/index.html


And for comparison, here are pictures of when it was known as Sand Barrens:


http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/SandBarrens/index.html
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

archie_struthers

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2021, 07:21:28 AM »
 8) ;)


I think it's much more difficult to build up and make it look natural than what we did at Twisted Dune where we dug out the dirt and removed it from the site. That's why it's both intriguing and impressive seeing the progress at Union League. The big fill they are doing is loaded with some beautiful sandy loam, made me jealous just looking at it coming out of the ground. The holes themselves are fun to play and lots of good stuff going on tee to green.  Isn't that what you are looking for when you golf?


So for me this is looking good and as the grasses fill in it will surely look even better.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 07:46:34 PM by archie_struthers »

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2021, 06:39:08 PM »
Some more pics:


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Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2021, 06:41:03 PM »
One more:


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"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Mike Sweeney

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2021, 07:56:11 PM »
I am in a less is more phase of golf. It just seems like they are trying to do a "Modern Pine Valley'". Obviously that is based on some random pictures, but that is all we have right now.


I just played Seaview Bay a few weeks ago, and that is a very fun golf course.
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us."

Dr. Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

mike_malone

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2021, 09:37:24 AM »
I am in a less is more phase of golf. It just seems like they are trying to do a "Modern Pine Valley'". Obviously that is based on some random pictures, but that is all we have right now.


I just played Seaview Bay a few weeks ago, and that is a very fun golf course.


As the Quakers say  “ the Friend speaks my mind”. 
AKA Mayday

Luke Sutton

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Re: Union League National Update Jersey Shore
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2021, 10:24:57 AM »
I am in a less is more phase of golf. It just seems like they are trying to do a "Modern Pine Valley'". Obviously that is based on some random pictures, but that is all we have right now.


I just played Seaview Bay a few weeks ago, and that is a very fun golf course.


It’s much much easier golf course than Pine Valley. Ive heard it called an “easier version of Calusa” which is a decent comparison. It’s quite obvious Dana did both.