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Tim Gavrich

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Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« on: November 28, 2008, 11:49:02 PM »
Golf-wise, 2004 was a pretty good year for the modest town of Bloomfield, CT, with two mid-high end public golf courses opening for play.  The first was Wintonbury Hills (brainchild of GCA member Brad Klein), the Pete Dye/Tim Liddy municipal effort that has gotten high marks since its opening.  It's really neat--wide open, firm-and-fast, with two great long par threes.  The only real criticism to be levied against it might be that it does not really tax the expert player, but it's function is the service of a wide golfing audience, so this is understandable.

Gillette Ridge has been a different story altogether.  At nearly 7200 yards from the tips and playing to a 74-plus rating and 140-plus slope (the scorecard depicted is out-of-date), it is known as a punishing course for players of all levels, especially higher handicappers.  It is essentially the anti-Wintonbury in this regard.  Tee-to-green, it is one of the most demanding golf courses with which I am familiar.  Many people bash it (as I did after the first time I played it) for being too relentless, with trouble galore at every turn.  To the credit of those who run the course, modifications have been undertaken in the past year to make the course a bit more playable.  A good amount of progress has been made, but there are still other things to be done.  I'll try and point out those spots along the way.



1: Gillette Ridge begins with its only bunkerless hole.  It's a nice risk-reward drive--sling your tee shot down the right (shorter) side if you dare, but you can be blocked out by trees if you bite off too much or don't hit it far enough.



2: A ~500 yard par 5 that plays to a wide fairway and then tempts the aggressive player to try for the green in two.  A fair criticism of the hole is the difficulty of the layup, to a very shallow area (unless you lay back to more than 150 or so).



3: The first of the holes that have been softened.  In addition to the pond left of the green (and hazard long), there used to be bunkers immediately short and right, leaving no bailout area.  Those bunkers have been eliminated so that the higher handicap player can have a fighting chance at salvation if he or she misses the green.



4: This par 3 is the next one to go, for the obvious reason.  They plan to completely renovate the green complex in short order.



5: A shortish par 4 whose rear bunker has been replaced by a more user-friendly chipping area (the crossing hazard in front of the shallow green is enough).



6: Solid mid-length par 4, again tempting the player to hug the trouble-strewn right off the tee (it also leaves a better angle to the shallow green).



7: Longest hole (612) on the course.  Solid, straightaway three-shot par 5 to a big, nicely contoured green.  Third shot crosses a big stream (or is it a little river?).



8: Decent par 3 with bunker/wetland right and chipping area left.


9: Longish par 4 requiring a precise tee shot.  It used to double the hurt with an equally exacting approach, but the left bunker has been pulled back in favor of a fringe buffer.  It's still a strong hole anyway.



10: Sharp dogleg left.  Another formerly ruthless approach shot, but a two of the three greenside bunkers have been removed.  The narrow, crowned greeen defends itself well enough.



Statues between the 10th and 17h fairways.


11: Ball-busting long par 3.  A 200-plus yard downhill shot over water, with a bunker left.  Probably the second toughest par on the golf course.



12: Long par 5 with a great visually deceiving bunker about 60 yards short of the green.  Another solid three-shotter for most.




13: Best hole on the course, in my opinion: a sub-300 yard par 4 begging the aggressive player to try for the green.  A hard right-to-left shot just over the right bunker may yield a kick toward the green.  Those who lay up must do so prudently, with water and sand in play.



14: Downhill par 4 to a narrow green guarded by chipping areas.  Another solid hole where driving it closer to trouble (left fairway bunker) affords a friendlier angle into the green.



15: Uphill par 3 with deep bunkers short and another narrow green.  Solid, but not revolutionary.


16: Straightaway downhill par 4 with an approach over wetlands.  The green has been enlarged this year, but the penalties for missing it are pretty severe, in the form of nasty bunkers.



17: Lengthy par 5 with a unique green situation: on a relatively wide, high stone bridge over a stream.  The bridge is still pretty narrow and so is the green--it's an extremely scary shot when the pin is the middle or back of the green.




18: Gillette Ridge finishes with the most difficult hole on the course: a 475 yard dogleg right beast requiring your best, longest drive and your best long iron to a green guarded by water and bunkers on three sides--the only bailout is short-left.  Really good par 4.5.



After I first played Gillette, I agreed with the detractors who call it unfair and too demanding.  The fourth hole is objectively ridiculous; I concede that.  But the improvements that have been made have turned the course into one I quite enjoy.  And frankly, I think I now prefer it to Wintonbury Hills.  But I recognize that not everyone will agree with me on that.  I like really tough courses, and Gillette Ridge certainly is that.  It punishes careless shots, but accommodates and rewards good play; which is one of the most important aspects of golf course architecture.

Cheers.

--Tim Gavrich
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 11:53:46 PM by Tim Gavrich »
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corey miller

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Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 08:55:49 AM »

Tim

Thank you for the photos and comments.  Who designed Gillette Ridge and what is the public's opinion on the two courses? 

Also, what is the problem with the #4 hole?  You do not say what the distance is and it looks like it could be too narrow where the flagstick is and the esthetics don't exactly appeal to me but the concept of the hole seems pretty neat.  Two large pinnable areas front and back and on a angle with a thin pinnable strip connecting them and two ways to put from one section to another (as long as the slope back right is maintained properly). 

Rich Goodale

Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 09:14:04 AM »
I looks to me like a typical Gillette Silver course.  You love 'em or you hate 'em--there rarely is an in-between......

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Tim Bert

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Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 10:28:01 AM »

Tim

Thank you for the photos and comments.  Who designed Gillette Ridge and what is the public's opinion on the two courses? 

Also, what is the problem with the #4 hole?  You do not say what the distance is and it looks like it could be too narrow where the flagstick is and the esthetics don't exactly appeal to me but the concept of the hole seems pretty neat.  Two large pinnable areas front and back and on a angle with a thin pinnable strip connecting them and two ways to put from one section to another (as long as the slope back right is maintained properly). 

Count me in as one that has offered harsh criticism of this course.  It is a Palmer design team course.  I don't really use the label "unfair" because I'm not sure what that means in the contect of golf.  I do think that it is too difficult for 90% of golfers to enjoy on a regular basis.  It looks like some of the changes have softened it a bit.

The biggest problem with #4 in my opinion is that the green is even narrower than it appears in Tim's photos.  At one point toward the front of the green we stepped it off at 6 yards wide.  Since generally you don't place pins less than 2 to 3 yards from the edge, this means only pins in the exact middle are possible without it turning into goofy golf.  Having now played Spyglass #4, this one looks like it might be trying to capture some of that spirit.  Let me tell you, this is not Spyglass #4.  The second biggest problem after the width is the deep bunkers on either side of the 6-pace wide green.  One could go back and forth all day long.

#3 and #5 look better.

I think if they did some significant work on #2, #16, and #17 in addition to the changes that are underway, then you'd have a course I might choose to play once for every 3 or 4 times I played Wintonbury.  As the course stood when I left CT, it was once for every 20 or so rounds at Wintonbury.

Most of the golfing public I knew in CT felt similarly.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 11:12:47 AM »
Tim Gavrich,

I think the biggest problem with GR is this: every average 18 handicapper I know who has played there has a hard (if nearly impossible) time breaking 100, even from the correct tees, and it doesn't get much better for them on subsequent visits.

Thanfully (for GR), there is never a lack of masochists.    ;)
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Todd Howes

Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 01:48:06 PM »
Tim: Thanks for the great pics and info.  Looks like you caught one of the nice November days this past week to play.  I wasn't aware of the changes being made to Gillette.  It changed ownership this year to Menchetti's group, and it looks like they did some nice work already to soften the course.

I played it once a few years back in October, and enjoyed the course, especially the back 9.  Certainly some precision shots needed in spots, but I enjoyed the tough test.  I love the short par 4 on the back, and think #18 is a great finisher.  As a scratch, I like a good stern test like this, but could see the 5-hour rounds for high handicappers with hole #2, #3, #4, #5, #7, and more holding them up.

I look forward to heading out there next spring.  Care to join me?

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2008, 01:51:52 PM »
Gillette Ridge, Devils Hopyard, Lake of Isles North...CT has its share of ball-breaking courses designed in the North American aesthetic mode.  I haven't played Great River, but my guess is it fits the M.O., too.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2008, 03:08:24 PM »

Tim

Thank you for the photos and comments.  Who designed Gillette Ridge and what is the public's opinion on the two courses? 

Also, what is the problem with the #4 hole?  You do not say what the distance is and it looks like it could be too narrow where the flagstick is and the esthetics don't exactly appeal to me but the concept of the hole seems pretty neat.  Two large pinnable areas front and back and on a angle with a thin pinnable strip connecting them and two ways to put from one section to another (as long as the slope back right is maintained properly). 

Corey--

Tim Bert's comments are pretty spot-on.  Number 4 plays 182 from the tips and with a 50 yard deep green, that would mean a 200 yard-plus shot to an 18 foot wide green with trouble on both sides.  A little excessive.  I'm interested to see how they're going to improve it.  I'm not opposed to the idea of a long, narrow green (I cite holes like #4 at Sewanee as evidence; the Sewanee hole has as narrow a green, but it is less deep and there are slopes that can kick the ball onto the green from the sides) as such.  I think the easiest and best idea would be to eliminate the right side bunker and just make the green wider to the right, so that it could reasonably fit with the length of the hole.

Cheers.

--Tim
Senior Writer, GolfPass

Ari Techner

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Re: Gillette Ridge GC, Bloomfield, CT
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 04:53:34 AM »
I am glad to hear they are doing some work to the course.  I am one who has been a harsh critic in the past. 
I played there last fall right before the wedding of a very close first cousin (groom).  The groom's sister is engaged to a guy who is a dedicated golfer who played at Yale in college.  Being the golfer in the family we had talked a few times and met once for a short period of time.  He accompanied me in this round at Gillette Ridge.  This was the first time we were able to play golf together.  I knew we were going to get along when he looked at me on the 4th hole and said "wow, this course is terrible."  LOL.  We had a great time and fortunately have been able to get together a few more times in the last year despite living on opposite coasts and they will be married in March. 

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