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Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« on: November 26, 2008, 12:34:09 PM »
PRESS RELEASE FROM CRAIL GOLFING SOCIETY IN SCOTLAND

220 Year Old Scottish Golf Club Offers Golf for Life

The world’s seventh oldest golf club, Crail Golfing Society in Scotland, is now introducing overseas membership for life for a single subscription of less than $4,000.

‘Crail Golfing Society has always given a special welcome to overseas golfers,’ said Society Captain Alick Kubrycht.  ‘Life membership provides an opportunity for golfers from all over the globe to become members of this ancient club and to play one of the world’s greatest golfing gems for a modest one-off subscription.’

The single subscription is £2,500, which at current exchange rates ($1.50 to £1) is only $3,750.  In return, the lifetime membership fee will entitle overseas members to eight rounds of golf every year in perpetuity.  Members will be able to book these rounds up to one year in advance - and bring along golfing partners to take advantage of the eight guest rounds at nominal rates, which are included in the package.   In an innovative move, the Society will link overseas members to local members, who will act as guides and ‘buddies’.   Further features of this unique offer are a concierge service through the Club Manager for last minute golf bookings on other courses in Scotland and some exclusive merchandise gifts.

Located only 12 miles from the world-famous St Andrews courses, Crail Golfing Society was founded over two centuries ago, in 1786, and is a traditional Scottish golf club, owned and run by its members.  The Society has two courses, Balcomie Links and Craighead Links.   

Balcomie Links is renowned as one of the most interesting and testing courses in Scotland.   It was re-designed in 1895 by the legendary, grand old man of golf, Tom Morris, and its 13th hole, a 217 yard par 3, which plays up a cliff to blind green, is said to be the inspiration for the hole played by Shivas Irons in Michael Murphy’s famous book ‘Golf in the Kingdom’.   Craighead Links was opened in 1998 and was designed by traditionalist golf course architect, Gil Hanse, to present challenging golf, and to take advantage of the magnificent views.

Demonstrating its confidence in the future, the Society started work in September on a new clubhouse to replace the current ageing structure.   Recently listed in Golf World magazine as having one of the best five views in Scotland, the reconstructed clubhouse will be in the same stunning location as the existing building, with its spectacular, panoramic views of the rocky shoreline and the courses.

 ‘We have taken advantage of the recent change in the value of the dollar to launch this attractive life membership offer,’ said Mr Kubrycht.  ‘Additional revenue raised will contribute to the clubhouse re-modelling costs, improving the facilities still further.’

‘As we are so close to St Andrews, overseas members planning to make a trip to Scotland will have a clubhouse base available and rounds of golf for themselves and their friends, around which they can build their trip,’ he added.   ‘With the Open Championship being at St Andrews in 2010 and the Ryder Cup at Gleneagles, only an hour away, four years later, this is a good time to become a member at Crail.’

‘We have recognised that visiting golfers often like to have some local help and knowledge on tap and our ‘local friend’ programme provides just that.’

There are 22 golf courses within 20 miles of Crail, including the St Andrews Links courses – the Old, New, Jubilee, Eden and much talked about new Castle Course – Kingsbarns, Dukes, Torrance and Devlin, as well as the traditional Open Championship qualifying courses of Scotscraig, Lundin Links and Ladybank – where all Society members benefit from a discount of 50% on the green fees.  .   

Details of the new Overseas Life Membership option can be found at www.crailgolfingsociety.co.uk or by telephoning the Club Manager on +44 (0)1333 450686.

Daryl David

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 03:05:22 PM »
Too bad they did not have this program in the mid 90s.  My subscription would have been covered by now in saved green fees!

Looks like they want to raise some quick capital.  To what purpose?

David_Tepper

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 03:33:48 PM »
Darryl -

As stated in the article, they are building a new clubhouse! ;)

DT

Michael Whitaker

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 05:51:53 PM »
It's interesting that the press release specifically mentions the price in dollars and not other currencies. A good number of these overseas memberships are being purchased by Scandinavians... as many as by Americans I am told.
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 09:02:40 PM »
Darryl -

As stated in the article, they are building a new clubhouse! ;)

DT

Bummer, that is a great old clubhouse hanging over the cliff.  What is the point.....

Mark Pearce

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2008, 04:19:45 AM »
Bill,

It is a great location but I think it's a push to describe the old (now demolished) clubhouse as great.  The changing facilities were long overdue for replacement and the building wasn't in great shape.  I'm a little surprised they chose to demolish and rebuild rather than a serious renovation but don't think it's an inexplicable decision.  I understand the new clubhouse will open in the summer, in the meantime we're using Portakabins!
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 04:45:44 AM »
I was just down in Crail again a couple of months ago. One of my very best friends lives in the village and is a member of the Society.

A question? When it talks about 50% reduction on green fees of other courses, is it referring to all 22 courses including the Links Trust courses... Or just Scotscraig, Lundin and Ladybank?

I believe International Membership here is £100 per year which is probably a better deal than lifetime mebership.

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 05:44:38 AM »

What a new club house already, the old one is not that old - is it?


Rich Goodale

Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2008, 07:09:35 AM »
If you love Crail and want to spend a good deal of your Scotland golfing time there, this is a good deal.  If, however, you just want to have an Overseas membership at one of Scotland's fine courses, this is just one of the many possibilities available.  My recommendation is to choose the place(s) you want to frequent first and then find the one whose package best fits your needs.

Rich

PS--my course (Aberdour) shares with Crail one of the two most spectacular clubhouse views in Fife golf.  If this plan works, I'll let our Committee know as they are desperate to find a way of funding a new clubhouse too.  Anybody for an International Membership at Aberdour? ;)

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« Last Edit: November 27, 2008, 07:22:17 AM by Rich Goodale »

Mark Pearce

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008, 07:37:43 AM »
A question? When it talks about 50% reduction on green fees of other courses, is it referring to all 22 courses including the Links Trust courses... Or just Scotscraig, Lundin and Ladybank?
The latter, sadly.  I wish I'd known about this perk of membership before BUDA this year....
In June I will be riding the first three stages of this year's Tour de France route for charity.  630km (394 miles) in three days, with 7800m (25,600 feet) of climbing for the William Wates Memorial Trust (https://rideleloop.org/the-charity/) which supports underprivileged young people.

Ulrich Mayring

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 06:55:46 PM »
What kind of a second class membership is that, where you're only allowed to play 8 rounds? Not that most overseas members would actually play more, but it certainly doesn't feel like "we have always given a special welcome to overseas golfers".

Here in Germany you'd have to pay higher greenfees at many courses, if you came with one of those "restricted play, remote membership" affiliations. It sounds prestigious by the name of the club, but all your card really says is that you fell for a money-raising scheme.

Ulrich
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008, 08:21:18 PM »
I find Crail to be a gem that I play everytime in the area. The Head Professional is a student of architecture as well.  The par 3's stand tall with the best collection anywhere. The site is breathtaking as well. I hope the new clubhouse is on top of the old one.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 03:11:05 PM by Tiger_Bernhardt »

Bill_McBride

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008, 08:42:15 PM »
Bill,

It is a great location but I think it's a push to describe the old (now demolished) clubhouse as great.  The changing facilities were long overdue for replacement and the building wasn't in great shape.  I'm a little surprised they chose to demolish and rebuild rather than a serious renovation but don't think it's an inexplicable decision.  I understand the new clubhouse will open in the summer, in the meantime we're using Portakabins!

Renovation or even just a serious update were what I had in mind.  Spending a couple of million quid on a new clubhouse just seems a poor investment at this time.....

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2008, 10:03:17 PM »
I played Crails Open last year with two members , and it was certainly the main topic of conversation . They didnt think Clubhouse was up to scratch.

Its a lot better than Stonehavens , which is about the same age.

Sean_A

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2008, 02:07:20 AM »
I played Crails Open last year with two members , and it was certainly the main topic of conversation . They didnt think Clubhouse was up to scratch.

Its a lot better than Stonehavens , which is about the same age.

I am Ulrich.  The lifetime membership doesn't seem that great a deal to me.  I really dislike the limitation of games and think its a bit mean on the club's part.

Brian

I would dread to see Stonehaven's house go modern.  I can understand tarting what you have up a bit, but the design of the house is very cool imo.  Truth be told, Stonehaven gave my group one of the best welcomes we have ever had.  I have a lot of time for the place.

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« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 02:09:55 AM by Sean Arble »
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2008, 05:07:43 AM »
If, however, you just want to have an Overseas membership at one of Scotland's fine courses, this is just one of the many possibilities available.  My recommendation is to choose the place(s) you want to frequent first and then find the one whose package best fits your needs.


Case in point for me... Why I have just applied to Cruden Bay...  I love the course, it is relatively cheap and I expect to be back in Aberdeen at least three times a year without having to force it...

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2008, 03:22:34 PM »
I think most if not all of these overseas memberships make very little sense. That is unless you have family or business in area which brings you there multiple times a year. I guess if overseas includes England or Ireland then that adds a group of prospective members like non res in US. I know my US non res make at best minimal sense but far more than a UK Club at simliar prices. I also think the prices on almost all these clubs will come down a great deal the next 12 months.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 03:25:33 PM by Tiger_Bernhardt »

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2008, 04:29:52 PM »
I think most if not all of these overseas memberships make very little sense. That is unless you have family or business in area which brings you there multiple times a year. I guess if overseas includes England or Ireland then that adds a group of prospective members like non res in US. I know my US non res make at best minimal sense but far more than a UK Club at simliar prices. I also think the prices on almost all these clubs will come down a great deal the next 12 months.

Tiger, I understand your point of view.  I have an overseas membership in England and get there maybe three out of four years for about five days.  From a monetary point of view it doesn't make sense for me to keep the membership.  But I have some friends and can play in member events. I stay at the same B&B and eat at the club with friends.  For me it is worth every penny.
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Tom Dunne

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2008, 07:35:14 PM »
Well, one nice thing about Crail is that it's only about 15-20 minutes from St. Andrews, so I could see plenty of people wanting to shuffle between there and the Toon enough to make an overseas membership worthwhile. I think even if they don't need need need one, a new clubhouse makes a certain amount of sense for Crail. They're in a nice position in that their courses are well-loved by locals and tourists alike--they could set up shop in a doublewide and people would still line up to play there. But why not go all mod cons and build something people will remember as adding to the experience (as long as it also still accurately captures the spirit of the place)? Their current structure, though it's perfectly sound, didn't strike me as the kind of place that many would be crushed to lose, though that's just my view and I've only visited a couple of times. I do think Graeme Lennie's pro shop has a definite sense of place, and a real charm to it, so I'd hope that aspect of it would be preserved.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2008, 07:36:48 PM by Tom Dunne »

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Crail Golfing Society Lifetime Membership
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2008, 07:37:21 PM »
Tommy when you put friendship in the equation that tips the scales. I feel that makes some of my US memberships worth the money. That is why I put family or business. I should have added friends in the makes it good. However as you said it still does not make monetary sense. I think many on here can justify one extra club but all these 3rd 4th and 5th clubs have to start looking a bit wasteful.

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